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2/3/2013 6:00:00 AM
'One kid went down like a box of rocks'

Ahron Sherman
Miner Staff Reporter


Six White Cliffs Middle School students decided to smoke a substance consistent with Spice, a synthetic drug designed to mimic the effects of marijuana, Thursday morning while they waited for the school bus.

"One kid went down like a box of rocks," said Kingman Police Department Sgt. Bob Fisk.

According to police, the student got up and when the bus came to the Jimmie Drive/Lum Avenue bus stop, all six got on and went to school.

Once they got to school, though, the student who collapsed at the bus stop was transported to the Kingman Regional Medical Center, said WCMS Principal Cliff Angle. He was later released and is at home recovering.

The other five were sent home with their parents and/or guardians, he added.

If any of the others went to the hospital, it was their guardians - and not the school - that took them.

All six students face consequences for their actions.

The substance was sent off to the Department of Public Safety Crime Lab to determine exactly what it was, Fisk said.

"We don't really know what it was," Angle said.

Angle sent a letter home with students that informed parents of the incident without offering specifics. Through the letter, Angle asked parents to talk to their children about the dangers of chemical abuse.

He also made an announcement over the school's public address system that informed the school that the student who went to the hospital was OK. He also asked students to be more careful.

"Hopefully this is a big wakeup call for kids," Angle said.

Fisk said Arizona is looking to change laws so that these types of substances stay illegal.

As is, it's a bit of a cat-and-mouse game. States will declare these substances illegal, and then manufactures will simply change the chemical compound but not the effects, which makes it legal again.

Angle said the school will also look at its health and science curriculum in order to find a way to get the dangers of synthetic drugs into the minds of students, something Kingman Unified School District Roger Jacks is all for.

"I'm worried about the bigger problem and protecting students' health," Jacks said.

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Reader Comments

Posted: Saturday, February 9, 2013
Article comment by: Bus Driver

To CD: I am a bus driver for KUSD. The morning of this incident, the bus driver DID radio in for help and a call to 911 from the bus stop. The Driver was told by their sup's in Dispatch to transport to school and they woulood have security and school officials waiting for them to arrive. Which was the case. So Please...Do not blame the Driver for doing her job and following directions of her Superiors. She handled the situation in a very positive and professional manner under the circumstances presented to her. We are trained and perform with all of the most modern and up-to-date procedures and information available, and the training is continuous. I feel for your girl that was on the bus, but she was never in any danger and that bus also had a monitor on board at the time with the driver. Thank You for your support and comments.
Parents, a reminder...please do not follow so close, or cut us off. It takes much longer to stop a bus then your car! Please...Turn down your high beams on North Stockton Hill Roadin the early am...I can not see when I am blinded!


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Patricia Hapke

A lot of you who commented have some bad ideas and some have a few ideas.
Let me tell you--You can't just go around saying parents don't try to teach their children good values to tell them what is wrong and not to do these things. We talk to our children but so do dozens of other kids in school. My daughter was raised in a good Christian home and I talk to her all the time about how bad the world can be and how we need to stay away from things that can hurt us and others. I talk to her and her friends every chance I get and I can tell you some one else is talking in her other ear. My daughter was there that day too. She saw a boy she cares very much for collapse from something they were experimenting with. I talked to several of the children involved in this and they all said similar things. "I wasn't thinking", "I felt pressured, like if I didn't do it I wouldn't fit in." "I didn't think it was a big deal--it was just one hit." I can tell you my daughter is still shook up over this. Some of you posters think you have all the answers but none of us do. All we can do is try. And yes my daughter is a lot of trouble and will remain so for a long time. With reminders as to why she is.


Posted: Thursday, February 7, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Anson's Nephew, you could move if you feel that way about this county.”

What and miss all of the fun? No way. The local insanity and wild conspiracy garbage that appears here in the KDM make it all worthwhile.

I’ve sold articles about this place with resulting comments ranging from “You’ve got to be kidding!” to “No way a place could be that screwed up.” And I smile as I deposit the checks.


Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: Fed Up Citizen

Worried grandma:
You sound just like my husband, who blamed everyone except his sons, when they got in trouble. They have now done multiple prison terms because it was slways someone else's fault.The reason most of these kids get into trouble is because they know there are no consequences for bad behavior. After all, all of those criminals in jail and prison are innocent, according to their loved ones.


Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: Steve McCall

@ Bath Tub Gin

Your logic is flawed. So we should just legalize everything?
We need to understand that it is not about bans and laws it is about education. Teaching people about love and respect for themselves and one another.

Anson's Nephew, you could move if you feel that way about this county.


Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: C D

The part of this story that bothers me the most is if the bus driver knew there was something wrong, why did he put all the other children on the bus at risk by transporting these kids to school. Why not call for help at the bus stop, maintain the situation until help shows up and then transport the rest of the students to school. Yes they may have been late for school but what if one of the kids high on the spice cause and accident and more of the students were hurt. I know they probably did what they thought was best but my daughter was on that bus and she was very scared being locked up with a bunch of kids that were on drugs. Looks like all of the schoool district needs more education on how to handle a situation like this. I am glad they got that boy treatment, but maybe calling 911 and having him taken to the hospital sooner would have been a better route to go.

Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: np ...

If you'll research Spice, much of it originates in China, and even packages with identical markings contain dissimilar ingredients. In a YouTube video, a DEA spokesman commented "there's no quality control". The real question seems to be why neighbourhood 24/hr stores sell this stuff to kids.

Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: Dannies Joy

I live across the street from a school bus stop close to the one in this article. I see the kids every morning playing ball in the street, climbing over neighbors chain link fences, fighting, bullying, screaming at the top of their lungs. About 50% of the time, there are parents at the bus stop, but they almost never intercede when needed. The kids parents need to instill good behavior ethics in these kids. There is a definite lack of respect and consideration for others, not to mention the safety of all the children. I can see everything those kids do from inside my house...I do intercede when necessary...the kids I am sure don't like me, but that's too bad. I'd rather be disliked than to have one of them get hurt or damage caused to another persons property.

Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: tweety bird

I think that the person who bought it for them should get some type of consequence for that person you have to be 18 and older to buy that stuff every smoke shop in kingman asks for an i d so you that you have to be 18 and over


Posted: Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Article comment by: origional Kingman Resident

@Worried Grandma

I'm glad that your grandson is ok, but I'd like to point out that this didn't "happen to" your grandson. Your grandson did this to himself.
It also did not happen at school, it happened in his neighborhood.
Kids will try things, and thankfully this wasn't something that caused a permanent effect to the rest of his life. But his parents have to teach him to use better sense and to chose more wisely when deciding to engage in activities.

Treating him like a victim, ( it happened TO him ), or blaming sending him to school, is not the way to ensure that he doesn't decide to do something like this again.


Posted: Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Article comment by: Results? .

Daily Miner can you please post the results of the crime lab findings? update to this story.

Another reason for children/teens not to ride the bus. There is no supervision before they get on the bus. Some kids go wild. Same with the kids who walk to school. I understand parents need to work. Get a trusted neighbor/friend to watch what goes on.

Did the 6 think smoking something they didn't know what is was, a smart thing? They are old enougt to know it is wrong. I hope the school gives some harsh consequences out, so others won't follow. Make them an example. I also hope they find out who supplied this.


Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: Highly Amused

If they'd just pull a Colorado and legalize marijuana, there wouldn't BE a need for these 'synthetic' products! Just a thought...

Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: BOBO CLOWN

If you feel strongly enough about the safety of your children call your local Council members and tell them you want something done about this and you want it NOW Then listen for the laughter from them...


Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: jis me

The county would be the one to pass the law. good luck there.

Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: Resident Joe

Thai Mai Shu,

Making it illegal in the city does not stop these kids from going into the county. It will take a state law to stop this. Then they will just come up with something else to smoke.


Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: B B

This is all because of parents rely on our government operated schools to teach their kids on every aspect of life, and also parents don't spent enough time with the kids, busy making money. Stop relying on schools to teach your kids every thing, We live in a dangerous world.
Why does the government have to do every thing for people, take responsibility.


Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

It’s curious how Yavapai County stepped up and banned the sale of Spice, Bath Salts and all similar synthetic drugs while Mohave County continues to harass an animal sanctuary (for years now) because of “ground cover” issues.

I have to admit, living in the dumbest county in the nation would be fodder for some great humor – except our kids are being poisoned and that ain’t funny!


Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: Bebe Jones

People need to realize, this stuff is not marijuana, nor is it related in any way. It is nothing but chemically treated plant material.If you're gonna smoke this stuff, you might as well be huffing Drano.

Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: bath tub gin

Here is the same problem Prohibition caused when applied to alcohol. We had Booze of all kinds made in unsanitary stills with horrible ingredients. Alot of people lost their eyesight and lives for a drink of booze.

Fast foward 80 years. Another prohibition senario with the same outcome.

Like it or not. Until Marijuana is open for public use on the scale alcohol is availible. We are going o have all kinds of "bath tub pot" substitutes most of which are POISON.

Marijuana becomes legal for adult public use and everyone of these "substitutes" would disappear overnight.

Its same as bad booze used to be. Today which is worse legal "safely grown" pot or dangerous crap made by people only looking to cash in on prohibition.


Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: Bus Driver

It should also be noted that the KUSD bus driver was the person who noticed that something was wrong upon arriving at the stop and reported it.

Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: WORRIED GRANDMA

ONE more thing to say on this subject parents wake up a smell the coffee.. check your kids backpack and even there books .don't just assume your child is not ENVOLVED in something like this or any other drugs.

Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: worried grandma

That student who went down was my grandson he is doing good and I hope parents talk to there kids about the use of this substance. my grandson is a good boy as a grandma I worry more now it is really sad when a parent can't send there child to school and not have to worry that this might happen to there child.

Posted: Sunday, February 3, 2013
Article comment by: Thai Mai Shu

Enough already. If we wait around for the Feds or the State governments to legislate the legality of SPICE then the abuse will cotinue.

From what I understand this junk is sold with the warning that it's not for human consumption but it is clearly sold in local smoke shops for exactly that purpose.

Our local government should take the lead and ban the sale of this type product before some other father kills their child, or some kid dies from an act of stupidity.

If you feel strongly enough about the safety of your children call your local Council members and tell them you want something done about this and you want it NOW!




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