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3/22/2013 6:01:00 AM
Kingman teen shot in fight over girl

Doug McMurdo
Miner Staff Reporter


KINGMAN - A planned fistfight between two groups of teenagers ended with one of them shot in the legs at about midnight Saturday at Centennial Park.

According to Kingman Police Sgt. Bob Fisk, a 17-year-old male fired five to six rounds from a handgun into a car. One of those rounds pierced the juvenile driver's door, grazing the top of his left knee before embedding in his right thigh. The bullet had not been removed as of Thursday morning, said Fisk.

The fight was arranged in advance to take place at the park. The cause was apparently a dispute over a girl, said Fisk.

"One guy brought a gun to a fistfight," he said. "This could have ended bad. Fortunately, nobody was killed."

Three boys arrived in one car and four in a second.

The boys told police the weapon, which has not been located, was a 9 mm handgun, but Fisk said the evidence indicates it was a .380.

The shooter told police his intent was to fire the gun into the engine blockin order to disable it.

"He said he was scared he was going to get beat up," said Fisk.

The delay in releasing information on the shooting, he said, was due to an ongoing investigation that includes a search for the weapon as well as a search for other boys that were involved.

"One went to Colorado, we heard," he said. "We don't know why he's running, and one kid went to the hospital."

Fisk said the boys that have been questioned have not been forthcoming regarding the location of the gun - a serious source of concern for police.

"One story was an out and out lie," said Fisk. "We were able to disprove that pretty quick. Then he said he threw it on the side of the road, but we searched that area. We think one of the two kids that was with him ditched it."

The shooter, said Fisk, has a history with the KPD. He was arrested and remains in custody.

Fisk said the Kingman Police Department does not release the names of juveniles, but he also believes the shooter will be tried as an adult in the case.

"It's my understanding he's already been transferred to (the Mohave County jail)," he said.



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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, May 20, 2013
Article comment by: More Then You Know

They should look at the one who ran off to Colorado, and his mother. Mother trying to hide him, because gun came from her house.
Why should to others pay the price and let him go free, and his mother. By the way not in Colorado still running


Posted: Monday, April 1, 2013
Article comment by: Concerned Parent

I would like to know how many of you know more about this story than what is written here in this article? Do you know the name of the boy they have in custody? Do you know what his history with KPD is? Do you if he was driving or the passenger? Did he test positive for GSR which would prove he was the shooter? Do you know the vehicle they were driving and who it belongs to? I will take a wild guess and say not many of you. Maybe you should get some more information on the boy before you begin playing "judge jury and executioner" on him or his parents. All you have is what little this article gives you, which isn't much. I will lay odds on the kid that took off to Colorado as being the true suspect in this. The one in custody is more likely an accessory, but not the actual shooter...

Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Live By the Gun Die By the Gun

Everyone needs a gun. What's the problem?

Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@Long time resident now parent

Shooting a gun at an occupied car is not "choosing to make a mistake".


Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013
Article comment by: Just another concerned mother

For some reason the kids in this town have decided they can take the law into their own hands. Recently my own son was beaten up for something that he didn't do. I, as a parent, believe that these "prearranged" fights are just another form of bullying that needs to stop. Just because someone does something you don't like doesn't mean you get to decide what the punishment is. It is up to the police to make a report on whatever the incident is and take that to the county attorney. As parents we are obligated to teach our children respect of the law and to report any criminal activity. Unfortunately if you read facebook regularly of kids in this town they have become "judge, jury and executioner"

Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: California Refugee

@LTKRNAOAT,
I was raised as all of us older folks that grew up in the 50's and 60's. I lived in a small townm where everyone knew everyone else. I knew If I got into trouble, that what I would get at home would be worse. Our kids are being taught by those who grew up watching 70's TV, the beginning of the dumbing down of America. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to Spank kids any longer. True, Society has our kids from K through 12 and beyond, all the values you try to teach your young kids is railed upon everyday by those that would take our freedoms while in public schools..
You are right it is very hard to raise a good kid today, but as a community it behooves us all to try harder at that task.


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Not Given

RE: Avg Joe, Tanya Smith, Others
To be clear, I do not support anyone shooting an unarmed person, adult or child. My comment was intended as a bit of sarcasm referencing the recent dismissal of charges against a Golden Valley adult who shot an unarmed man because he was "scared".


Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Long time Kingman Resident and now a mother of teenager

This whole situation is very sad. @ California Refugee - it does start at home I agree with you on that one but let me ask you something. Any time you made a decision at 17 did you think about what your mom or dad would think? Were you perfect? Anytime you chose to make a mistake or even do something good would you expect your parents to take blame or praise for your doings? It is hard to raise children these days and I can tell you one thing... society does not make it any easier.

Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013
Article comment by: gun owner 000

After all my years living and working here, I've noticed an unusually large number of "kids" out at night, way beyond curfews. Some drive around aimlessly, while others just walk around, looking for trouble. A suggestion to Sgt. Bob Fisk: How about clamping down on the curfew?
If one of your officers spots a car full of teenagers after dark, find out if they have any business riding around aimlessly. If they see somebody walking, make sure they have a valid reason to be out & about. If not, FI cards, or maybe a trip to the PD holding cell and a call to their parents will calm down all of the raging hemorrhoids.


Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2013
Article comment by: Bret Wilson

The problem here was not enough guns. If the other boy had a gun then he would not have gotten shot. Come on guys! More guns means a safer world. Even better these two boys could have gone "old school" and dueled over the love the young girl. That is what we need more chivelry...and duels. It would be ledgendary!

Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2013
Article comment by: Tanya Smith

@Notgiven....The shooter shot because he was "scared" yet claims this was a prearranged fight...hhhmmm what is wrong with this picture? If he is to be believed that he was "scared" why did he agree to go to the "prearranged" fight to begin with? No need to fear getting beat up if you stay home rather than go to what you claim you know is going to be a fight...

logic may escape the youth these days but should not escape reasonable adults.

Sounds more to me like a spoiled little brat whose parents failed to teach him right from wrong since it has been reported that he has a previous record with police and whose lawyer is looking for excuses to get him off..


Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2013
Article comment by: cocerned citizen

I think we should loosen the gun laws even more, don't you? After all, it this one teenager took all afternoon to find a gun so he could shoot someone.
It's our God-given right to keep and bear arms, don't you think?
That way even our kids can walk aroung and shoot anyone they want to, just not the adults!


Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2013
Article comment by: California Refugee

Where were the parents of all the boys when they were in their formative years? too Busy with life to raise their kids with valueS is where. I tto had a curfew, and I caught H.E double Hockey Sticks if I was out poast the time.
No gun law on the books or those trying to be pushed through right now i
will keep the determined from obtaining a gun. Mentally Stable or not.
We have let today's children down, by dumbing down the society in which they were raised. I blame the parents first, and the child second.


Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2013
Article comment by: Paul Bearer

This kid purposley took a gun to a fight. Premeditated attempted homicide, since the other kid was sitting in the car and the shooter opened fire on the occupants while they were still in the vehicle.

HE CHOSE to go to the fight with a gun....he could have just as easily been a man about it and walked away.

He sure as heck isn't a member of a Militia and as a juvenile I doubt he has a RIGHT to bear arms against anyone.

These comments about where were the parents or why were they out after curfew or my kid gets grounded when he does something amaze me. You honestly believe that a kid willing to use a gun against another kid cares what his parents think or feels the need to obey a curfew?



Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Avg Joe

@ Not Given, right to shoot because of fear? He's a teenager. He should have never had the gun to begin with! Not only that, the teenager should have never been out at that time of day. Why you making excuses for people that choose to break the law?

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Only consolation in this story is no one died! Raging hormones and guns are about as a bad a mix as alcohol and raging hormones!

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: gun owner 000

A .380 to disable a car's engine? What were they driving, a riding lawn mower?

Throw the book at them. It's punks like these that give gun owners a bad name.


Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Desert Angel

Where did he get the gun. Why did he get the gun. Where is the ban on guns when kids are involved?
Was it the parents who left a loaded gun where teenagers could shoot each other without regard to life and limb?
Why were teens out at the park when there is a curfew? Where are the parents when things like this keep happening?
My kids were always home by dark or suffered the consequences. One was grounded most of a summer for coming home after the street lights came on.


Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Same Old Thing

The delay in releasing information on the shooting, he said, was due to an ongoing investigation that includes a search for the weapon as well as a search for other boys that were involved.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Not Given

I think "justanobody sr" missed an important point--the shooter said he was "scared". Doesn't that give him the right to shoot the person who was causing his "fear"? (See Richard Venola case for precedent).

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Mary .

Hopefully they locate the gun before a child does.

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: justanobody sr

typical court judge will slap him on the wrist, and he (the shooter) will be at it again in a week!
and you wonder why the youth of today
continue to act up?




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