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By Linda Athens, Kingman,, AZ

Friday, July 12, 2013

I Will Stand With the Muslims Should the Political Winds Shift in an Ugly Direction

 Linda Athens

"I Will Stand With the Muslims Should the Political Winds Shift In An Ugly Direction."

So said Barack Obama on Page 261 of his book, "The Audacity of Hope." Forever defending the Muslims against the bad people that might hurt them. Odd, isn't it?

And this is one promise he seems to have carefully kept. Specifically, those Muslims known as The Muslim Brotherhood, famous for their terrorism. .

And now, with Egypt burning, Obama is making threats to Egypt concerning the Muslim Brotherhood. With the recent ousting of President Morsi and his Sharia Law and Muslim Brotherhood, Obama is now pushing to get the Brotherhood back into power.

It should be first noted, Obama claimed to the world he was not taking sides, although those of us watching know he pushed for the ouster of the prior President Mubarek, knowing the Brotherhood would undoubtedly step up. Conservatives had a hope the more moderate Egyptian military would step in with some balance but when Morsi was elected a year ago, the Brotherhood and Sharia Law moved in. Egyptian Christians have been murdered - many have fled Egypt.

Already sick of Morsi, Egyptian citizens (most of them Muslim) and the military have stepped up and pushed Morsi out. Enter President Obama who has now told those in power if the Brotherhood is not allowed to remain free and join a new government, he will cut off all aid. He will?

Besides astounding, this is confusing. First, he states he will not take sides. Then, nary a word against the abuses of Morsi and the Brotherhood. Now that they are out, he is completely defending them to the point of denying Egypt aid if they are arrested. And again, they were slaughtering Coptic Christians in Egypt - apparently fine with Obama and crew.

The words of Jay Carney, White House press secretary concerning the current Egypt crisis.

"The only way this is going to work successfully for the Egyptian people is if all parties are encouraged and allowed to participate and that's why we've made clear, that arbitrary arrests are not anything that we can support. We could not support those because if you're arresting individuals from ONE GROUP or ONE PARTY, you're working against yourself if your effort is to be inclusive as you make this transition back to a civilian, democratically elected government." Same from the State Department.

Really Jay? So your president is pushing being inclusive in Egypt? Everyone should be included? Your man won't tolerate the military arresting the Muslim Brotherhood. Well, except for that one group, Egyptian Christians. And then it is okay to kidnap and rape Christian women, torture and kill the Christian men. And then you will say ... NOTHING!.

The blood of Christians is spilled in every Muslim country, but that's old news. Christianity pre-dates Islam in Egypt but when Morsi came in, in came the Brotherhood and Sharia. Soon 100,000 Christian Egyptians fled their country. And the good-hearted Brotherhood put a Christian on TV with a knife to his neck, then slowly sawed off his head while shouting Allah's name. Just a little reminder to the viewing audience, if you are Christian, better become a Muslim real fast.

What kind of Godless animals perform this type behavior anyway? And people wonder why I cannot tolerate Obama? He supports Muslims while ignoring the slaughter of my fellow Christians by those same Muslims.

But don't take my word for it. Read his Page 261. And remember, Dreams of my Father was actually written by Bill Ayers and Obama, known by experts as a "crappy" writer who could not be salvaged, had help even writing the much inferior The Audacity of Hope but nevertheless, whoever helped him write it, those are the words.




Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, August 9, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

"... and end up with the most unpresidential person to ever hold that office!"

And of course as misguided as that is - it is your opinion and nothing more.



Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: I Wonder

I think what Linda is pointing out is two factors: 1. That Christianity and Islam are not one-they are a separate belief system and do not mix. 2. The statement by Obama, "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." is the main subject matter here. The rest of that part of his speech is window dressing for pushing not slandering Mohammad. He calls himself a Christian, but the statement about Islam is a heavy statement and the one about Jesus Christ comes second. If you examine all his statements grammatically in this part of his speech you will see what the subject really is and how it is hidden within a cover subject. I don't know what is in his heart, but the more he brings Islam and Mohammad up the more I wonder.

Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

"Worldwide, muslim attacks on Christians continue."

Yawn. More boring nonsense. Perhaps if "christians" (small "C" deleiberate) would mind their own business these supposed incidents would not happen.


Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

@ Cherry Darling,
I imagine more of us than you could guess have lent a hand to our communities. You state you didn't read the letter and weren't going to comment then proceeded to ridicule those who did and have.
If you vote and do your civic duty then you darn well have the right to Voice your concerns.
It is a tragedy for this nation to make history having our first black president and end up with the most unpresidential person to ever hold that office!


Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@LiJiAma

"The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam"

Yet again, another fallacy from you. The quote is "The future MUST not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Big difference. Funny, though, you left out the part, IN THE SAME SPEECH, where he also said "But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied.”"

Why is that? Makes one.....LOL


Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Doing Research 197WC

Worldwide, muslim attacks on Christians continue. The list is endless. And they have nothing to do with war, combat, insurgency.

They are unprovoked and on innocent Christians, specifically targeted and abused only because they are Christian.

Exactly as 9-11 was carried out, the Boston bombing was carried out, the Ft Hood shooting was carried out. Don’t kid yourselves.

But a few recently.

7-29-13, Kano, Nigeria 45 killed, 15 injured – Islamist bombers targeted Christian districts, churches.

7-12-13, Dabaaya, Egypt – Muslim bomb attack on Christian village, dozens of homes burnt, 4 Christians killed, 32 injured.

7-11-13, Zweid, Egypt – Muslims kidnap Christian, later found beheaded.

7-5-12, Nagaa Hassan, Egypt, Four Christians brutally hacked to death by Muslim Brotherhood (Obama’s buddies)

7-5-13 Islamabad, Pakistan, Muslims attack church, kill four.

7-4-13 Borno, Nigeria, Pentecostal Preacher gunned down, killed

6-27-13 Idlib, Syria – Two Christians, one a Priest, captured, tied up, beheaded on video by Islamists.

3-24-13 Ashtabula, Ohio Muslim convert walks into church waving Quran, guns down his Christian father while shouting Allah.

2-7-13 Buena Vista, NJ Muslim targets and beheads two Coptic Christian immigrants.

3-14-13 – Vancouver, BC , Two stabbed when islam convert doesn't succeed in converting others outside a coffeehouse.


Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

Ohhh LA, LA, LA...Is it some sort of selective reading issue?

How about the entire statement instead of your edited (as usual) version? "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied."

Why not post a few other excerpts from the speech?

"The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt... " or "The future must not belong to those who bully women... " or "The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources...". How about "Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, that’s the vision we will support." And those are just a few I got from reading a short version of the whole speech.

Yeah, I can see how you must really disagree with those kind of statements.


Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

"The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam".

Will there ever come a time when you will actually post a proper quote instead of posting trash that is taken out of context and altered to fit your own agenda?

Now for the facts, “The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt, it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted ‘Muslims, Christians, we are one.’ The future must not belong to those who bully women, it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources, it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people… THE FUTURE MUST NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO SLANDER THE PROPHET OF ISLAM…Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, and that is the vision we will support.”

w/c197



Posted: Thursday, August 8, 2013
Article comment by: enigma enigma

Interesting theory but doubt this posted letter will sway anyone in America but those who believe in the theory of Obama being a illegal Kenyan, they already have a preconceived dislike for him, hence they need no convincing this is a stale comment posted for what purpose? None of it is going to change one thing in who is in white house, no one is going to be indicted no matter how many investigations one has, no crime has been committed by anyone other than the terrorists who likely will eventually face punishment either from a drone missile or a arrest! I do believe being angry is something some people just cannot help themselves!

Posted: Wednesday, August 7, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew


“I simply inserted the word Muslim for THEM so the reader would know who he was speaking about. And that is exactly who he was speaking to.”

“Simply” inserting a word in a quote totally revises the intent of the quote – as you well know and is why you did it.

The president was not speaking to the evil (in your mind) Muslims, he was speaking to all Americans to make us understand that what occurred to Japanese-Americans during World War Two would not be repeated under his watch.

Your free-wheeling attitude over altering quotes speaks volumes about your obsessional hatred of our president. Let me put this as succinctly as possible – Obama won, by large margins, twice and your altering his words will never change that fact.


Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

V Stokes:

Here's another obama quote you may like.

"The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam".

Said to the United Nations


Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2013
Article comment by: Cherry Darling

Im not even going to read the article or the comments. I already know what is going to be said. Charity begins at home, so those that hate obama, or those that stand behind him, what are YOU doing in your own communities to help and better them??? Go lend a hand before you lend a voice!

Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

@Linda

If you think that Muslims haven't ever experienced prejudice or ben treated poorly in this country then where have you been the last 12 years?

Here's a veteran that fought in Iraq that was attacked for being Muslim. In May of this year.....

http://bossip.com/768007/smh-v-a-cab-driver-and-ex-u-s-military-is-attacked-for-being-muslim-video/



Posted: Tuesday, August 6, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes the Fires of ignorance and bigotry

I guess lying comes so easily for those on the left, you can't even tell when the lies end and the truth begins (if it ever does)!

Linda Athens gives the full quote, which shows EXACTLY the meaning the abbreviated quote did. Yes, there is more context, but the meaning doesn't change.

And Boob Moore (aka Anson's Nephew) FOLLOW your words since you have nothing to offer... "END OF DISCUSSION". You are unwilling or incapable of being hones to the least.


Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Now wanting to type the entire quote, I put the last sentence and inserted Muslims as noone would have known who the THEM was he was talking to and about.”

Taking an actual quote and the replacing a word in that quote to alter the meaning of the speaker is – as you are so fond of saying - lying. Simple as that. And still not knowing who “noone” is I will stand by the fact that anyone reading the entire passage – as I posted – fully understands exactly what Obama meant.

“I didn't realize I needed to spell it out for those who can't keep up. Others besides Bob Moore and you didn't have a problem understanding it.”

Perhaps the “others” are not cognizant of the fact that changing ANYTHINIG within quotation marks is – as you like to say - lying.

“Incidentally, it is all lies.”

Yes it is and I wish you would stop it.

“Muslims have never been mistreated in America. Christians and Jews have. I can cite cases.”

Yes, we are so sure that you can. Pathetic and disgusting comment.


Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013
Article comment by: Burt Depoe

Not the END OF DISCUSSION!
Try to tell that to the Americans that died in the twin towers. so Mr O wants to punish Israel . When they are trying to get the islam out of there country. That kind of says alot about page 261 of O book.


Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013
Article comment by: Az Progressive

@Linda Athens: "Now (sic that means spelling incorrect, in case you didn't know) wanting to type the entire quote, I put the last sentence and inserted Muslims as noone would have known who the THEM was he was talking to and about. "

Sure, don't type in the entire quote because it would just confuse the unenlightened masses. Ignorance and leaving facts out seems to be bliss to the right. I see a Faux News career in your future.


Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

One more time...he did not say or write it. You substituted the word Muslim. It's only your interpretation of what he meant. That does not make it a fact or the truth.

It's obvious he was saying that if laws were proposed similar to those regarding Japanese Americans in WWII, he would side with those being persecuted. It's not that hard to understand.

From what I know...many faiths interpret passages from the bible differently. Of course...your brand of religion is the only one that does it correctly, am I right?

Right here in Kingman we have a Mosque and many Muslim residents. Some are doctors who see people of all races and religions...would you not allow them to treat you? Your answer will say a lot.

I feel very sorry for people that have such narrow minded views as I see here daily. It's obvious they have never traveled outside of their little world and know nothing about the rest of the people on the planet. All they know is what is fed to them by people of a similar mindset.


Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@LiJiAma

Nice to see you finally put the correct quote in the proper context, so everybody can see it does not mean in any way shape or form what you implied it did. Nowhere in that did he say he would side with Muslims. Period.

And if you think Muslims have not been mistreated in this country, you have not lived here very long. They have been mistreated in Kingman alone. I can cite cases.


Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

V Stokes: Yes again, the exact quote from Pg 261

"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, AND THAT I WILL STAND WITH THEM SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION"

Now wanting to type the entire quote, I put the last sentence and inserted Muslims as noone would have known who the THEM was he was talking to and about.

I didn't realize I needed to spell it out for those who can't keep up. Others besides Bob Moore and you didn't have a problem understanding it.

Incidentally, it is all lies. Muslims have never been mistreated in America. Christians and Jews have. I can cite cases.


Posted: Friday, August 2, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

Back to the point...
"I Will Stand With the Muslims Should the Political Winds Shift In An Ugly Direction."

So said Barack Obama on Page 261 of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

Nope...never said it, never wrote it.

Someone changes the words (as well as taking the entire sentence out of context) to make it fit their (or the loon right wing) perception.

Throw out everything else about donations or voter fraud that you want, doesn't change the fact that the quote was never said or written as stated.



Posted: Friday, August 2, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@Anson

Obama made the statement a few days prior to the 2008 election. Here is where higher level reading skills come in. The one draws from Obama's statement is the voters will participate in the fundamental transformation by electing Obama president where he will be in a position to implement the policies for change.

Again, you split hairs over details that don't change the point someone else was making to deflect from the message they are communicating. Having to deflect just means you don't have a reasonable argument of your own.

By the way, if Obama wanted to fix the mess Bush left behind, why is he following the same failed policies of Bush, only to a far greater degree than Bush did? All he has accomplished is to make the mess far greater.


Posted: Friday, August 2, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

>>>The operative word is “we” indicating that WE THE PEOPLE will transform the ugly mess left behind by The Criminal and his minions who effectively destroyed out economy.<<<<

Hahaha! Sure Bob. That's for sure what he meant since he didn't even mention any ugly mess or the prior administration and he is the one who has effectively destroyed our economy.

It is absolutely STUNNING that you cannot see the truth right in front of your eyes. What on earth would it take Bob? Even the left hates obamacare. You still believe thohse lies.

Even the left is speaking up against obama's $100 million vacations when the country has no jobs.

And on and on. And yet, you stay blinded. Absolutely stunning! Or scary.



Posted: Friday, August 2, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

200 words.

There is something far worse than obama saying he will fundamentally change our country.

This week he said "Where I can act on my own, I will act on my own. I won't wait for Congress". Frightening!!

He has already done it, unheard of in our country. You will recall, he declared Congress shut down, then made three recess appointments he knew would not pass muster. Congress was not shut down and later, although hardly reported by the MSM, a court declared it illegal.

As the Wall Street Journals Daniel Henninger points out, obama is redefining the power of the presidency in a way that's alien to American tradition. bypassing Congress and the Judiciary to in effect issue his own laws.

Read his column "Obama's Creeping Authoritarianism" in the WSJ.

Three more years of obama destroying us is an unbearable thought. Obamacare alone could do it. Already hated by the left and right both, it's not implementable, his own people are begging out and just today, the new head of the IRS charged with enforcing it says he does not want it either. Then add three labor leaders who went door to door pushing it, now their unions want out.


Posted: Thursday, August 1, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“by Michelle Malkin”

END OF DISCUSSION. Posting an opinion piece (i.e. lacks substance or fact) from a highly biased, hate-filled rightie will never prove a point.

Once again – END OF DISCUSSION!



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