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12/20/2012 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Guns make America a battlefield

Statistically, 32 people a day are killed by firearms in America. This equates to nearly 1,000 people's deaths per month. One thousand deaths on a battlefield would be considered with great alarm. Why then do our legislators and citizens remain unmotivated to alter the conditions and laws of the battleground called the American homes, cities and states?

Historically, each horrific gun violence event, be it in a Colorado theater, Oregon mall, Milwaukee house of worship, etc, is followed by the admonition "now is not the time to discuss gun control." If not now, then when?

In Newtown, Conn., our nation has experienced yet another sad episode of senseless gun violence leading to 28 deaths - 20, ages 6 and 7, elementary school children.

I have never considered America as a battleground, but 1,000 deaths per month from firearms is a hard number to argue with. Realize that we have more gun dealers in America than McDonald's. Think about that and consider how that reflects on the sad testimony to our lives today here in America.

America, now is the time to discuss altering our gun control laws. Our nation loves its guns, but we need to show love for the lives of our children and adults more than our love affair with guns. Precious innocent lives are inarguably more important than any ideology.

Let your beliefs be known to our legislators. Expect change, not the status quo, which appears a lot like indifference. America, we are better than that. Yes, now is the time to reopen discussion of gun control laws, as we owe at least that much to our children.

Christine Meisenheimer, Ph.D.

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012
Article comment by: Adding More Guns is Not Acceptable

Just trying to help out all those who think the only way to stop a shooter is with another shooter:
* greatly reduce the number of bullets in a clip
* make it more difficult to load a recenly fired gun
* early detection and treatment of the bad man
Others want to come up with creative ways? Come on now we are a brave and creative people.


Posted: Sunday, December 30, 2012
Article comment by: Oh the Hypocrisy

And Mr. Parker, the right yell about abortion yet applaud sending young men and woman off to war.

Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Doing Research

And despite having a forum to do so you conveniently never say what guns you WOULD like to ban and why.

Like most gun grabbers you are intentionally vague.


Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

When i went in one had the choice of being joining or being drafted. I joined as it made more sense than waiting to be drafted and possibly end up in Viet Nam.

Nowadays the only people I really feel sorry for is anyone who was in Afghanistan and still thinks the accomplished something. Lets face it, after the last U.S. military personel are gone. the terrorists will take over in no time at all. Karzi and his family will be gone from there with millions and millions in stolen loot. A monumental waste of lives and money.


Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Article comment by: nnp .....

Not to give AN a headache (I stood against your comments in another thread here today), but 'well said 'here to FLS, who, several months ago, summarized his brief military career in terms of being a dutiful peacetime paper pusher. From that perspective, I too do not appreciate being disparaged for having mentioned my time in the military. I entered at a time when about 50% of our guys at Fort Ord were being sent to Vietnam, and I settled in my mind that I might not be coming back, at least in one good piece. In fact, as I have written here previously about my final year of overseas duty, in October 1973 when a very large contingent of our headquarters suddenly went on vacation somewhere. At the time, a bottle of Coca-Cola was 7 U.S. cents in Jerusalem, and landing strips for military aircraft began appearing throughout the Sinai - at a time when Russia was threatening to take the Suez before (Israeli) General Sharon did.

Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“People like you are no longer required to pretend you respect and support the military any more.”

This comment from a guy who felt serving his nation was the same as being in prison when he commented about his military service as, “serving my time.”


Posted: Wednesday, December 26, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“I love it when people like you feel it necessary to casually mention a military career.”

Actually I never mention my military service casually. I am proud of having served our nation. Unlike those who likened their military service to a prison sentence with such comments as "I served my time." Oh, wait, that was you!


Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@mikel weisser

Hey comrade, the elections over. People like you are no longer required to pretend you respect and support the military any more.

LOL


Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

"As to SGT Hathcock, USMC, please explain how you know he was the exact opposite? When did you meet him? How many times did you squat in the bush for days at a time with him? How many rounds did you fire alongside him in practice? How many times did you beak bread with him at a field kitchen? How many times did you watch – with awe – as he took out a bad guy at ranges extending to 2,000 yards?"

I love it when people like you feel it necessary to casually mention a military career. The internet is chock full of people, who for whatever reason, choose to embellish or completely fake.

But your claims are above question because you say, "I DON’T have to prove anything to you."

LOL


Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: origional kingman resident

@ Doing Research

You made a statement that alluded to the second amendment being put into place to allow the early Americans to protect themselves from robbers and Native Americans:

"The second amendment was also written at a time when muskets were the highest form of weapons technology and frontier people were under attack from each other and Native Americans"

I was correcting your erroneous statement.

You also have stated:

"Which also means we don't need to be on standby to fight a civil war at any moment."

If the fiscal crisis is not averted and we end up like Greece, this may well be the case.
There are many of us who believe in planning ahead to take care of our selves and not expect the government to do it for us, (think Hurricane Sandy and the people waiting for relief in NY City). If there comes a time when people are looking for food and other necessities, or the President decides to use his many federal policing agencies to commandeer peoples' property for the common good, many of us plan to be prepared to protect what is ours.
A civil war doesn't have to be an actual declared war as it was in 1861. It could also be a time of great civil up-rest and the break down of law and order in the country.


Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: Leonard Walker

When grieving third graders we don't have to use third grade terms to describe people. "good guys' vs "bad guys'. Certainly the NRA can do better than that.
- we liberals are not talking ALL guns, just CERTAIN guns
- more importantly, we are focusing on high capacity magazines
- "spoon to mouth" good start to argument but the analogy leads us to wonder if one could shovel quickly the spoon to mouth the body would gag and even choke to death
- high capacity magazines that kill innocent children in seconds makes me gag
- comparing individual auto deaths to mass murder is not an equation
- black market is a good rebuttal, but not a reason to try
- heart disease is not a violent act against another
- guns DO NOT KILL PEOPLE you are right, people kill people and use assault weapons to kill the most the fastest and is most non discriminating

Thank you Christine for your service in the past and courage today. You are truly a patriot worthy of the name.


Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: JCN WORKER

TO ALL THE PEOPLE ON HERE THAT WANT TO BLAME HOLLYWOOD AND VIDEO GAMES TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE THAT GREW UP PLAYING THOSE VIDEO GAMES AND WATCHING THOSE MOVIES THAT YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT SAYING THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE I DONT HAVE VIOLENCE BECAUSE OF THOSE GAMES AND I AM A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY ITS NOT THE GAMES OR MOVIES SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN EVIL AND IF YOU THINK BANNING GUNS WILL STOP THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG IT WILL JUST INCREASE THE VIOLENCE

Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@FLS

"What does need to happen is keeping the guns away from unstable or ill people. If tougher laws will do that, I say go for it."

I could be wrong, Was that submitted by some other "nice chuckle"?"

Submitted by me, where exactly does it say I want the laws? It does say if they will keep people from dying, then go for it. Never said I support it.

Please stop trying to put words in my mouth and thoughts in my head.


Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: AZ BIKER

[Comment deleted for excessive length]

Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: Advice for Gun Lovers

Hold them, caress them, and most importantly squeeze them to death.

Posted: Monday, December 24, 2012
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@Doing Research

The people in AZ and NYC are not different, the laws are.

When the laws ban guns only law abiding citizens don't have guns. Criminals still have guns and have no trouble obtaining them.

When criminals are the only ones with guns they become very embolden and the crime rate rises.

Do some research on the crime rates in places with strict gun laws.


Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“You said you knew Carlos Hathcock and I doubt it seriously so your going to have to prove it like you have told so many people who writes in.”

Nope, as I have been told numerous times here (by you as a matter of fact) I DON’T have to prove anything to you. Believe it or don’t that is your choice.

“It is odd a liberal such as yourself would claim to have learned from Mr. Hathcock being the touchy feely, politically correct person and Carlos being the complete opposite.”

And why do you seem to think I am a “touchy feely, politically person?” what do you base that on? Oh, wait, it must be because I believe in the rights of everyone – women, people of color, religions other than my own and those with differing sexual orientations. Of course in your world all of those things are evil and emblematic of being some kind of a wimp.

As to SGT Hathcock, USMC, please explain how you know he was the exact opposite? When did you meet him? How many times did you squat in the bush for days at a time with him? How many rounds did you fire alongside him in practice? How many times did you beak bread with him at a field kitchen? How many times did you watch – with awe – as he took out a bad guy at ranges extending to 2,000 yards?


Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

You really have to love the hypocrisy of liberals. This example from David Gregory, host of Meet The Press, interviewing Mr. LaPierre of the NRA

“You proposed armed guards in school. We’ll talk about that in some detail in a moment. You confronted the news media. You blamed Hollywood and the gaming industry. But never once did you concede that guns could actually be part of the problem. Is that a meaningful contribution, Mr. LaPierre, or a dodge?,” asked Gregory."

Followed by:

"But you would concede that, as good as an idea as you think this is, it may not work. Because there have been cases where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre, this kind of carnage. I want you would concede that point, wouldn’t you?,” Gregory pleaded"

Gregory failed to mention that HIS kids go to
the Quaker School, Sidwell Friends, with obama's kids. School security is provided by 11 armed guards.

I guess armed guards are fine for his kids, just not for the children of the common folks. It's how wealthy libs think. But I am sure our local liberal sock puppets will find a way to justify this sort of thing.


Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: Allan Gleason

@ Frank Lee Speaking:

Someday... but probably not within my lifetime, sadly.




Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: mikel weisser

This Sunday just before Christmas, as she has done for the past two years, Christine led Kingman's biweekly peace vigil. A decorated, now disabled, former Air Force officer, Christine shows her love and commitment to our country in her call for peace. A national peace comes from a nation at peace.
Thank you Christine for reminding us that a nation obsessed with arming itself, will never find its way to peace.


Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Linda Athens

"Am I crazy or was there not a man posting on here named Hurd. Posted with a PhD."

Nope, not crazy. I found his comment in about 30 seconds using google. Now go do the same.

LOL



Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Doing research

Cops do not prevent many murders, but they are great at drawing chalk outlines around bodies. Feel free to call 911 if you think that's your best option.

So what self defense method to you prefer..... curling up in a ball on the floor, or begging for your life like a little girl?

Funny you should mention putting out your own fires. Guess you don't believe in keeping a fire extinquisher in your home either. Wow, you really do believe in being totallty helpless, huh?

LOL


Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Am I crazy or was there not a man posting on here named Hurd. Posted with a PhD. Saw a post I wanted to respond to and now I cannot find any of his posts and I do not specifically remember all he referred to. In fact, I thought I did respond once.

Did his posts just disappear or am I looking in the wrong place? Someone help me out here.


Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2012
Article comment by: BN RUSSO

I do believe the NRA has it right:
"The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
Sad but true.


Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

Yes folks, many libs really do want your guns. This comment at huffpo today by a person using the name "nobody in particular" is very typical of what the left considers "reasonable gun control" these days.
*************
"A good start, but nowhere near enough.

a) All firearms must be stored in an approved safe (probably steel of a certain gauge with a specified locking device).

b) High capacity magazines sold before the start of the new law will NOT be grandfathered and must be surrendered to the appropriate authorities for an appropriate, statutorily defined level of compensation.

c) All firearms must be registered with the Federal government in a computer database searchable by law enforcement agencies.

d) Firearms owners are responsible for their weapons. Use of a weapon in a crime by a party other than the owner is a felony punishable by fine and prison for the registered owner, unless the owner can prove that the weapon was forcibly removed from the approved safe.

e) Ownership of semi-automatic rifles and handguns is prohibited. Such weapons purchased before the start of the new law are NOT grandfathered and must be surrendered to appropriate authorities for an appropriate, statutorily defined level of compensation. (Gun owners will scream over this one. So let them own such weapons under the proviso that such weapons make only be stored and used in a licensed gun club.) "
*******************

A bit unrealistic, of course, but you never know, given enough time
LOL



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