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2/4/2013 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Getting what we deserve

The cheapest family plan available offered by Obamacare - $20,000 a year. You get what you deserve, America.The best part of your precious, unconstitutionally mandated Obamacare is nobody named Obama has to buy it! I'm laughing at you today but I'll be crying with you tomorrow.

Daniel Snelling

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Harris

The Miner needs to understand, as the only daily newspaper it has a tremendous responsibility to inform, dispel rumors and eliminate incendiary falsehoods.

Now let's do the Editor's job and set Daniel Snelling straight. Under the Affordable Care Act the CBO estimates these policies will cost $4,500-$5,000 per person and $12,000-$12,500 per family. And since Mr. Snelling is so opposed to the Affordable Care Act perhaps he'd rather pay the penalties instead of carrying health insurance. The follow chart details the amount of those penalties:

Less than $9,500 income = $0
• $9,500 - $37,000 income = $695
• $50,000 income = $1,000
• $75,000 income = $1,600
• $100,000 income = $2,250
• $125,000 income = $2,900
• $150,000 income = $3,500
• $175,000 income = $4,100
• $200,000 income = $4,700
• Over $200,000 = The cost of a "bronze" health-insurance plan (est. $4,500-$5,000 per person and $12,000-$12,500 per family)

So now Mr Snelling and those he convinced that the sky is falling as a result of the Obamacare can rest easy knowing the $20,000 policy is another falsehood against President Obama.


Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Article comment by: There's A Difference

@ Anson's Nephew

"Let’s see the Righties gave us Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Paul, Willard and long list of other fools, so being “urged” to run for the presidency means very little when all you have are losers."

Why do they have to be losers? There's a difference between being a loser and being dishonest. Besides, you forgot a few, John McCain, Sarah Palin, etc...


Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Zondervan a little known publishing company? Hahaha! That's a good one.”

Yeah, it is because I’ve never heard of them.

“… bought out by HarperCollins (never heard of them either, right?) a few years back and is their Christian division of their company.”

Yep, I’ve heard of Harper Collins, but not Zondervan.

“Their big emphasis was and is publishing Bibles. Of course, you wouldn't have any way of knowing that.”

Now why would say I would have no knowledge of the Bible? I have told you every time you accused me of being an atheist that I belong to a religion you respect. And none of my Bibles have the imprint of Zondervan.

”He has awards that never end.”

Awards don’t actually mean too much. I have writing awards, a publishing award and an award for bringing Historic Route 66 to the consciousness of America. Overall, big deal!

“… many have urged him to run for POTUS.”

Let’s see the Righties gave us Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Paul, Willard and long list of other fools, so being “urged” to run for the presidency means very little when all you have are losers.


Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

BM:

Zondervan a little known publishing company? Hahaha! That's a good one.

It was founded in 1931, is extremely successful and was bought out by HarperCollins (never heard of them either, right?) a few years back and is their Christian division of their company. Zondervan was also in the music business. Also successful.

They have published all of the most successful Christian writers such as Joni Aerickson Tada ( don't know her either, right?) and Hal Lindsay's Late Great Planet Earth series. Their big emphasis was and is publishing Bibles. Of course, you wouldn't have any way of knowing that.

And Dr. Carter? He has awards that never end. He has done miraculous surgeries separating siamese twins, etc - surgeries that had never been done before. He is quite a man and many have urged him to run for POTUS. His common sense thinking is badly needed in this demented world of obama where his signature MO is class warfare. Americans against Americans.


Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: The Fox Hound

I know that the Presidents opposition doesn't like to be bothered with facts as it gets in the way when their trying to make a point. But this is so much BS I wouldn't know where to start. Thanks to Anson and others it appears the only one who agrees with you is Linda. Keep up the good work we will in the congress back in two years.

Posted: Saturday, February 9, 2013
Article comment by: If You Say So

" God put THE MAN next to you there to get your attention."

Your belief is not everyone's. So many people will be disappointed when they find out humans were planted on this earth by beings other than some mythical god.


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"The CBO just revealed 8 million are going to LOSE the employer health care they now have under obamacare. Something new. Look it up."

Reread the chain email you got this from, the figure in the only half true email is 7 million.


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

“This is the same Dr. Carson given the Medal of Freedom by POTUS Geo W Bush a few years back…”

Let’s see, the Medal of Freedom was given to Michael Jackson by Ronald the Dim and we all know what kind of guy Jackson was.

“… and a best selling author for Zondervan Christian press - one of their best selling authors.”

Being “a best selling author” for a little known publishing company doesn’t mean a thing.

“Look it up.”

And so I did and the facts – not the hyperbolic nonsense posted – is that as many as 7 million low-wage earners will lose their company subsidized health insurance with companies deciding to pay fines rather than insure their employees (typical Republicans) and those employee will then be shifted to Health Exchanges where they will receive coverage that, in many cases, will be superior to what they were getting through their employers.

“… asked if I had received a letter from basically the government (Medicare) advising they will no longer pay for the one drug I occasionally take. Too many old people on it, might get addicted they advised him.”

Sounds as if Medicare has detected a problem and is actively seeing to it that people do not become addicted to a drug.

“They intervened in my medical care, told my Dr what not to give me and what to give.”

No they did not. Your doctor can go ahead and prescribe the medication and you can pay for it. What has changed is that the “socialized” Medicare system will no longer support the drug. So be honest, NO ONE is preventing you from buying and taking the drug.

w/cR>


Posted: Thursday, February 7, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

It turns out, world renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin S Carson, who today, one body away from obama, spoke at the National Prayer Day Breakfast and told us why political correctness is wrong, gave us a healthcare plan that would work and we would be in charge of, told us to bring Jesus into everything, there is a plan and a purpose for all lives and NOT TO DIVIDE US.

He said it is wrong to punish those with more money - no wonder they put their money in the Cayman's - we need that money here.

Did you listen obama. God put THE MAN next to you there to get your attention.

This is the same Dr. Carson given the Medal of Freedom by POTUS Geo W Bush a few years back and a best selling author for Zondervan Christian press - one of their best selling authors.

Please go to The Blaze and listen to the entire speech if you need your heart lifted from the drab, contentious disaster of a presidency under obama. I will be getting Dr. Carson's books soon to read. And yes, he lifted himself out of Detroit inner city poverty as a kid.


Posted: Thursday, February 7, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Daniel:

The CBO just revealed 8 million are going to LOSE the employer health care they now have under obamacare. Something new. Look it up.

Obama showed at the Prayer Breakfast today, half asleep, making it all about himself as usual. Then a Dr. Carson spoke, blew obamacare away in a few short minutes, explaining a plan that would work with YOU in charge from cradle to grave. With obama sitting there. Hahaha!

I have a dozen herniated discs in my spine. Recently visiting my own Dr, he asked if I had received a letter from basically the government (Medicare) advising they will no longer pay for the one drug I occasionally take. Too many old people on it, might get addicted they advised him. They then told him to instead give me another drug that really is addictive and which I would never take.

They intervened in my medical care, told my Dr what not to give me and what to give. Unbelievable! I will instead not take anything or pay for my own of course. This isn't a first. What worked, therapy I received bi-monthly has been knocked out that often leaving me in much worse shape. One anything per visit now. Where you could before kill a few birds with one stone, now you can only do one procedure per visit meaning you now have to make numerous visits. Only there are not enough openings available.

Yes, this government is in our faces or as Obama told the caring daughter inquiring if her active, spirited 100 year old Mother could get the heart device she needed, "sometimes you just have to give them the pill".

To even be asking the POTUS instead of her care provider was crazy in itself.


Posted: Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Article comment by: All Shook Up

No, Daniel. You must be getting things mixed up. That sum sounds like the premiums charged by Blue Cross/ Blue Shield or United Healthcare, or Met Life or the other private insurance.

Posted: Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@Marla Kiriakidis

Check your math.....according to your figures...you pay $52 Hundred a year.....not $52 Thousand. From what I know...that might not be too bad a price depending on your situation.


Posted: Tuesday, February 5, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“I pay 100.00 a week or 52,000. a year.”

No, you pay $5,200 a year.

“So I'd love a plan that's more than half of what I pay now.”

Then you should love your plan that’s roughly 25% of the unsubstantiated $20,000 figure.


Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: Your Choice

@ Daniel

You have/had choices. Did you make the military a career? Are you working in a job that provides a health care plan?


Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: Get A. Life

Instead of Obama, why not blame those who choose to destroy their health by over eating and smoking. These people cost the health care system BILLIONS of dollars a year by abusing their bodies. The obese and smokers should NOT receive care for health issues that could have been prevented.

Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

As usual no substantiation provided for the $20,000 figure. Please provide proof from a legitmate source (no WND or FAUX News), thank you.,

Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: Marla Kiriakidis

Really? I've got to get that plan. I pay 100.00 a week or 52,000. a year. So I'd love a plan that's more than half of what I pay now.

Posted: Monday, February 4, 2013
Article comment by: origional Kingman Resident

@Daniel

The $20,000 figure is from the IRS. They are using that figure as a basis for computating the penalty, uh, I mean tax that people will have to pay for being uninsured.

I'm sure that medical insurance will be very expensive, but the $20,000 figure was not given as an actual cost of the insurance.




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