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1/27/2013 6:01:00 AM
Editorial Column: You think what Phil said was stupid?

Rich Thurlow
Editor


Remember when it used to be cool to complain about paying taxes?

Times certainly have changed. Just ask Phil Mickelson.

The golfer, one of the best in the world, "caused a sensation" last week when he complained about taxes and how they prevented him from being part of the new ownership group for the San Diego Padres. Mickelson also suggested he might move elsewhere rather than continue to fork over 13 percent of his annual income to the state of California. His total income tax bite is in the vicinity of 60 percent.

Talk like that these days creates hysteria among some members of the media. That's not surprising, considering they adore someone who said something really, really stupid about taxes and the media yawned it off.

I'm speaking of the April 17, 2008 exchange between Barack Obama and ABC's Charles Gibson, on national TV no less. Gibson pointed out that Obama was in favor of raising the capital gains tax. Gibson noted that when capital gains taxes go up, revenues actually go down, and that when George Bush lowered the rate to 15 percent the Treasury collected more money.

Plus, Gibson noted, 100 million Americans own stock and would be affected. I'll add that many of them are retirees.

Obama, who remains functionally illiterate in economics, replied that he would raise taxes for "purposes of fairness." He moved from there to the politics of envy, talking about how much money hedge fund managers made the prior year.

And then, incredibly, Obama said he wanted to be able to finance health care for all Americans and invest in infrastructure.

Gibson's logical followup should have been something like this: "Uh, hello? Didn't you hear what I said. What you want to do reduces revenue, making it harder to pay for health care and infrastructure. It is bad for the economy."

That issue died a quick death. But who knows how long the browbeating of Mickelson will continue while the economy continues to slog along, with every fraction of lower unemployment rates ultimately traced to people giving up looking for work.

•••

I had the privilege of being accepted into a service club last week. They gave me a platform to talk about myself and I used the opportunity to point out that every one of the firemen who died in the Doxol explosion 40 years ago were members or one or more service clubs.

I'll never be a hero like those men, but I can follow their example and be more active in the community.

One way I'll help my club is by using the Miner to publicize its worthwhile activities. But all I'll really be doing is eliminating the middle man.

The point, though, is that any number of clubs and organizations need to be reminded that the Miner is more than happy to publicize their worthy cause or fundraiser. From car washes to bake sales to talent shows to Little League registration and more, if you have a community event, let more of the community know.

Send the information to life@kdminer.com with plenty of lead time and be sure to leave a contact number.

You might be amazed at how much more successful your fundraiser is when you let us help.

•••

Join me in welcoming Doug McMurdo to the news crew at the Miner.

Doug and I worked together previously at another newspaper, where his tenacity played a big role in sending a corrupt public official to prison. Doug has added other stops to his resume since then, most recently the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

I'm pleased he's here.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, February 6, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

This was a great letter by Mr. Thurlow.

Mickelson only keeps around $.37 of every dollar he makes after all taxes. Who of us with an actual brain would find this fair. Only lemmings on the left who have fallen under the class warfare never ending drone of the big voice of king obama.

Last night the very illiterite Congressman Keith Ellison MN (switched to Islam), stated to Varney on Fox News that it would be unfair for Mickelson to pay anything less than 63 cents of every dollar.

He indicated repairs on infrastructure have stopped, hospitals shut down, etc because of the rich not paying enough, as if the two are even connected.

Nothing could be further from the truth. We have not only NOT stopped any spending on anything of the sort, it is going on full force.

Ellison is a liar but to be expected from the left but worse, he is ignorant and that is dangerous for America. Who elects these kinds of people anyway?

The low information voters. And they are a great danger to this once wonderful nation for they have no clue what the end result will be. They think spending can go on forever, the rich will always be there to bail us out and other ridiculous lies.

Truth is, most rich are rich because they are hard working and they are smart. They already pay plenty in taxes. But when it becomes so unfair they will move, find ways around the taxes or whatever it takes. I would too.


Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

"If you follow pro golf you can see that many top players have left high tax envrions like Kalif. and European countries, ending up in Florida or Arizona, among other lower taxes states."

And yet Phil went to college at ASU....Hmmm.....

Try again....


Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Article comment by: biker randy

If you follow pro golf you can see that many top players have left high tax envrions like Kalif. and European countries, ending up in Florida or Arizona, among other lower taxes states. Tiger Woods is in Florida now comign from Kalif. Even Rory McElroy is moving from Ireland? to Florida. Mosty your top PGA euro golf players claim to be from other countries but they now live in Florida. Nick Watney, a relatively new top player from Kalif. now lives in Nevada?

Why would any same person not leave a place where they are taxed far more when they can move to a lower tax haven? Both Kalif. and New York are losing thousands of former citizens every year due to their exorbitant taxes and political liberal leanings. Thank GOD we live in a country where you have options still. We left Kalif. 3.5 years ago and have no regrets.


Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@The Fox Hound

So are you planning on moving to CA so you can pay more in taxes in order to provide for the less fortunate, or just lazy? Didn't think so.



Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank in Kingman

I just read the terms of service and I guess I'm in violation because I questioned someones intelligence. I have to assume it was the person who deleted my post. If you want to insult someone or call them names, you have to address your insults at anyone that is liberal, Democrat or a free thinker. Do not dare say any boo boo words that might hurt Thurlow's feelings or his friends.

So Rich, go ahead and delete this post too.


Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“I sure didn't hear any complaints from you two lefties about Lebron James when he said he was moving to Florida because of low taxes!”

What is a “Lebron James” and why should I care if he moves anywhere?


Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Capt

"I sure didn't hear any complaints from you two lefties about Lebron James when he said he was moving to Florida because of low taxes!"

Not that I care much either way, but last I saw, Lebron plays in Florida. Don't you think it makes sense for him to live where he works? Hmmmm....


Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Keyboards Galore

Pray tell Thurlow -- when do you intend to recycle all those keyboards by your desk with all the busted comment delete keys . . .Hmmmm?

Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Capt. Nice

Nephew and Hound
I sure didn't hear any complaints from you two lefties about Lebron James when he said he was moving to Florida because of low taxes!
Evidently the thousands moving out of California are all wrong to move to a State where they can keep a little more of what they make and not give it to the politicians who squander it on social projects that buy them votes.


Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Samuel Adams

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Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Frank in Kingman

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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013
Article comment by: Butch Meriwether

Rich, I think everyone should be able to stand up and say what they feel. Good for Phil to say he is departing California for Nevada. I didn't lose or leave anything in California when I departed it in 1998. I too am tired of the government taking advantage of the citizens and then needlessly sending our tax dollars overseas.

Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013
Article comment by: Ivan Who

Indeed, let’s welcome Mr. McMurdo to the halls of our local publishing protectorate. Be advised that root-out assignments may be a rarity since Northwest Arizona is deemed by many to be a corruption-free zone.

Indeed, it should have not come as a surprise as you surrendered your trusty spade at the employee entrance, since darn there just isn’t any dirt to uncover around here.

Likewise, your beloved lance that has freed us huddled masses from the scourge of undesirables -- it too has seen a former glory and will likely be more suited here as a standard bearer for our legions of corruption-free government entities.

But, hark thee well, my good reporter -- keep in good repair and at the fore, your shining armor, especially the back-half thereof -- for of that, indeed there is an exceedingly great need.


Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Obama, who remains functionally illiterate in economics,…”

Not true, but then Thurlow is known for being wrong all of the time.

“And then, incredibly, Obama said he wanted to be able to finance health care for all Americans and invest in infrastructure.”

Yeah, how incredibly stupid is it to want to see that every American has access to health care or that our roads, bridges, etc are in good shape?

One thing you can say about Thurlow – he never fails to provide a nice dose of laughter on Sunday mornings.


Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013
Article comment by: The Fox Hound

No I don't think Phil is right or stupid. I think he is greedy. Guess what Rich I can't buy into the Padre deal either and that is a shame. I also can't play golf like Phil. Oh well I guess I'll get over it. I hope Phil can to. I'm sure that Arizona will welcome him when he is driven out of Ca. by all those nasty taxes. But Jerry Brown has brought the budjet under control and for the first time in a long time they are facing their problems head on. Too Bad old plain Jane would do the same instead of selling off the states assets to private companies at a fraction of what they are really worth. What is fair is that the rich pay the same percentage of taxes that the working class pays. When you factor in all the taxes that people pay income tax is just one of them as you know. Poor Phil can't buy a ball team I guess he will just have to continue playing golf for living. I wish him well but a lot of people don't have that choice. When their company downsized or moved over seas they were out in the street with no where to go for help but the govt. We would all like to lower taxes but the money to fight all the wars cost a lot of money. Because America is so protected by all of its gun owners I think we can cut the defense department to the bone. I'm sure there is room for an assault rifle in Phils bag. Fore



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