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11/7/2013 6:00:00 AM
Guest column: Freedom, big government can't co-exist
Daniel Snelling
Kingman Resident

The only thing that has been achieved in Obamacare is the perpetuation of a statist autocratic federal leviathan that's only increasing power and authority over the American people.

Obamacare is merely the mechanism - the means by which they will continue to encroach upon your day-to-day liberties.

What really exposes the ideological underpinnings from Obama and the Democrats is that the abject catastrophic disaster that has been the Obamacare exchange rollout has not fazed them one bit. Democrats knew the Obamacare that was sold to the American people could never function. Now, with full implementation weeks away, we find the logistics are dysfunctional as well.

As Sen. Ted Cruz alluded, "This is only going to get worse." Three years, $90 million and what? We got nothing! Only an egomaniacal government can think this way. Only government can force you into a system that does not allow you to sign up! Only government thinks it can suspend the laws of economics in order to pursue a relentless political agenda.

Even with complete failure, the thought process of Democrats in Washington remains fixed. It's clear that Democrats recognize more than even most Republicans what's at stake here.

The Democrats' unwavering commitment to this law is the emphasis that brings this all together.

Healthcare is the Trojan horse through which we will become a society where liberty is only that which the government decides to afford us at any given time. Where rights and freedoms are determined by those in power and the only determination of that power is the ballot box, not the constitutional guarantees that the founding fathers left for us, not the promise of a government that is limited in scope and protects, above all else, the freedom of every individual.

Obamacare isn't about healthcare; it's about healthcare control. The reason Democrats view this as the sine qua non [without which, there is nothing] is because it allows a progressive government to do so much more. This allows the taxation of inactivity and the creation of policy objectives through an unlimited taxation power.

There will be no end to "do this or pay a fine."

Without limitations on taxation, the coercive tactics of a statist authoritarian government go unchecked. Tell me where this administration cannot go? There is no issue where they will not tread because of the structural protections of the Constitution and the separation of powers. It no longer exists.

For the first time in a very long time, we find ourselves in a fight for real liberty. You can't have big government and individual liberty at the same time. Freedom is not some gift from government. What do you think makes us different? Why do you think we live like we do? This is the greatest time to be alive in the greatest country on Earth because of liberty and freedom. It's yours; you were born with it! But once you lose it, you will never get it back.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, November 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Bob Moore - Written into obamacare is knocking up to 100 million off policies they picked themselves, paid for themselves.”

As I have asked before I would like for you to show exactly where in the ACA any such thing appears. Thank you.

“So WHO is denying WHO access?”

Actually it is the insurance industry denying access because the ACA allowed them to grandfather in all junk healthcare polices provided they did not alter, in any way, those junk policies after the implementation of the ACA in 2010. They did change those junk polices – usually with huge rate hikes – making those junk polices no longer viable.

And I am still curious as to why you – as a person who lives off Social Security, Medicare and Part D (as you have stated here many times – and complained about incessantly) – are so set against every American having access to healthcare.

“Why do you make such useless remarks?”

Good question, why do you do that?



Posted: Wednesday, November 27, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Bob Moore

Righties want to deny access to healthcare for Americans?? You've got to be kidding. Written into obamacare is knocking up to 100 million off policies they picked themselves, paid for themselves.

So WHO is denying WHO access? Why do you make such useless remarks? Are you just incapable of seeing what is really happening?


Posted: Tuesday, November 26, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

@FLS...the ACA website need not have been sabotaged with malware. McAfee described the fixes being applied in terms of putting a steel door on a house originally constructed with paper - the original site construction a product of young, poorly-trained and non-English-proficient CGI recruits in India.

Posted: Tuesday, November 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

”And I am mystified why you would think anyone does not have ‘access’ to medical care?”

As usual you have childishly altered my words. Why do you consistently do that?

I said, “…righties want to deny access to health care to every American?" That is considerably different than your falsely claiming I said anything about medical care.

Medical Care denotes treatment for an ailment, injury or health crisis. And everyone is guaranteed access to medical care through the ER’s of our nation – the most expensive medical care available and the most abused.

Health Care denotes access to doctors before medial care becomes necessary. Health Care allows for preventative procedures and tests to determine if a health threatening condition exists.

Why you insist upon changing the words of others to fit your own myopic view of the world is, and always will be, a fascinating thing to observe.


Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"And I am still mystified as to why righties want to deny access to health care to every American?"

And I am mystified why you would think anyone does not have "access" to medical care?

Be honest. In true leftist fashion, what you mean is you want others to pay for their medical care.

And speaking of things medical, have you found a "source of fact" for your ridiculous claim of Oct. 4 that "million of Americans are signing up" for obamacare yet? Or will you just admit you made that bit of "hyperbolic nonsense" up?


Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"Frankly, it sounded to me as if Obama's website & program had been deliberately sabotaged from the beginning)."

Frankly, it would not surprise me at all if you believed that the sun coming up in the morning is part of some vast govt/Jewish/Hollywood conspiracy....... aimed directly at you.

LOL


Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2013
Article comment by: Oh Ya

"Did they ever find that 85 million earmarked for opening obamacare that disappeared?"

Probably in the same spot as the $2.3 trillion Rumsfeld admitted to be missing on September 10, 2001.


Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

GOLF - April, 2010, obama played 32nd game, SEVEN MORE THAN BUSH PLAYED IN EIGHT YEARS.

Memorial Day, 2010, placed the wreath on the Tomb of the Unknowns, hit the links but first observed a moment of silence on the golf course.

Bush would've beem creamed. Washington Press reported "Just the sport for a leader most driven....obama's frequent outings reflect a cool-self confidence...seems able to play despite grim reports about war and economy". USNews/MaryCateCary

Normal people call it narcissism. He deserves it, he is a step above those below him...including soldiers.

Comparing George Bush.

In a sitdown viewed on Yahoo, he revealed his personal way of acknowledging soldiers sacrifices, giving up golf.

“I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf,” he said. “I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity....playing golf during a war sends the wrong signal".

Bush made the decision after the UN headquarters bombing in Baghdad which killed Sergio Vieira de Mello, top Iraq UN official.

Pulled off the golf course in TX with this news, he said "It's just not worth doing it anymore". Class act!


Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Hey Bob Moore:

I notice you don't say much about obamacare these days. Hahahahaha!!

I can't even call it a trainwreck anymore it is soooooooooooo much bigger. And obama has more problems than just obamacare...if you could even imagine.

Down to 39% in the polls, Dems running in 2014 terrified and White House in total hysteria.

Today I saw Kirstin Powers, the obama loving liberal, say her blood is boiling as HER policy was cancelled and it was NOT a crapola policy.

Her new premium is double, has the same thing in it as her old one....why can't obama just say the truth - that the cancellations have nothing to do with anything other than they need the extra money to fund obamacare.

By extra money, she means everyone's premiums and deductibles are going UP UP UP. Welcome to obamascare.

Did they ever find that 85 million earmarked for opening obamacare that disappeared?


Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Frances:

I don't know anything about Hannity or Malkin's insurance policies since I rarely watch or read either one of them.

Rush doesn't have insurance, he pays cash.

And I did also for a number of years. The rest of those years, we not only supplied our own insurance, we paid half of our 35 employees insurance also.

Sorry but I've already been there and done that.


Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2013
Article comment by: Frances Perkins

@ Linda Athens. Please give up your socialist Medicare, because it's not a right. Please get on the same health insurance policies as Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Michelle Malkin. Then you will have lived the principles you believe everyone else should live.

Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Congratulations to President obama for playing his 150th game of golf.”

How upset were you when The Criminal was taking his 1,020 vacation days?

“Meanwhile, Bush quit playing in honor of our fighting men in Afghanistan who couldn't play.”

Ahh, another “urban legend.” The Criminal stopped playing golf for about three months, then went right back to the links as he racked up the most vacation days of any president in our nation’s history – 1,020.

”… the worst typhoon and surge in history hitting the Phillipines.”

Well, according to your hero David Barton that is part of God’s punishment for us allowing abortion.

”Every bit of help we can give and prayers, prayers, prayers for them.”

I have a better idea – send money for relief efforts, ‘cause prayers don’t do squat!


Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Congratulations to President obama for playing his 150th game of golf. I know those multiple thousands who just got dumped from their healthcare, those whose hours have been lowered and others whose lives are being destroyed by obamacare will be happy to note obama sure as hell isn't giving up anything for them no matter how bad it looks.

It is part of his narcissistic personality that has no feelings for others. Add to that, his tremendous feeling of entitlement, that he is superior to others and detached from their pain so of course, he plays all he wants.

Oddly, Joe Biden (where is Joe anyway? Is he still alive) who plays much better than obama has only been invited to play with him five times.

Meanwhile, Bush quit playing in honor of our fighting men in Afghanistan who couldn't play.

And something so much more important than obama's golf games - the worst typhoon and surge in history hitting the Phillipines.

Every bit of help we can give and prayers, prayers, prayers for them.


Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013
Article comment by: Edward Tomchin

Re: Origional Kingman Resident's inference that I'm a Socialist.

Far from the truth. I'm a diehard capitalist 110% worth. I was just pointing out some realities about capitalism. It IS a highly competitive system and our current fiat monetary system is also a boon since between the two (capitalism and a fiat monetary system) the potential for creating wealth is enormous. Unfortunately -- and we have to live with it -- it also has an enormous potential for abuse.


Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013
Article comment by: too hort

"It will let you drop down to Romney's level. You'll be able to rub elbow with him and CC (Communist Cruz)."

Your statement makes no sense.


Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Interesting points on Chris Wallace this morning.

You shouldn't have to go to an exchange, only if you need a subsidy. Except millions being thrown off their own insurance do not qualify for a subsidy, nor do they want it. They wanted to be left alone with the insurance they carefully picked, paid for and wanted. Two guests - both picked their own, knew what they were doing - still thrown off, don't qualify for subsidies.

Government penalty can only be obtained if the person has a refund coming on his taxes.

And, penalty had to be low because it is only constitutional if called a tax, not a penalty and after a certain amount, it can no longer be called a tax but reverts to a penalty....which is unconstitutional .... so like the Supreme Court re-named it a tax to make it constitutional...except obama guaranteed it was NOT a tax but a penalty.

Complete gobbledygook crapola from obama, the smartest man on earth. From Mara Lliason and George Will. And she's a liberal.


Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@mac

“Anson's Nephew, Read the bill all that is all the proof you need.”

I have and it is obvious you have not because you are unable to provide the sections that would support your ridiculous assertions. Why do you do that?


Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

Edward

"Then we have capitalism thrown into the mix. It's one of the most competitive games we have ever created but it cannot be played without rules. We found that out in 1929 and 2008. "

Do you think people would be any more free with the government controlling the means of production and deciding who gets what?

Capitalism is what has created the conditions for the most free nation in the world.
The financial collasps of 1929 and 2008 were not due to capitalism. They were due to the government interference in the free marketplace. If you pay attention to the actual events leading to both events rather than the sound bites from politicians and pundits you would know this.

Our Constitution was not written as a restriction on the individuals freedom. It exists entirely as a restriction on government power. If you read the Constitution you would know this.



Posted: Saturday, November 9, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

@Frank Lee Speaking......every American has a stake in what happens to other Americans. The scale of Obamacare's disaster will affect me somehow, even if indirectly (I just viewed a lengthy interview with John McAfee - which, incidentally, utterly discredited V. Stokes' derisive comments towards me on another thread here last week. McAfee went into technical detail how the entire ACA website must be discarded, and - contrary to Stokes' allegations - why negotiations between himself and the government broke down. Frankly, it sounded to me as if Obama's website & program had been deliberately sabotaged from the beginning).

Posted: Saturday, November 9, 2013
Article comment by: Oh Ya

"we are nearly down the road of total re-redistribution of wealth"

That should make you happy! It will let you drop down to Romney's level. You'll be able to rub elbow with him and CC (Communist Cruz).


Posted: Friday, November 8, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"It's always nice to have a series of comparisons in mind when discussing our own situation. "

Since you have stated in the past that you live on a SSD check and have also said your medical care is VA provided, you don't really have a "own situation" at all with regards to the cost of obamacare. In fact, considering your admitted source of income, if you were not a veteran you fall under Medicaid. Bottom line, even if you had to depend on obamacare, you are one of the ones that taxpayers would have to be supporting.

In other words, as one of the local leftists here likes to say "You have no skin in the game"

LOL


Posted: Friday, November 8, 2013
Article comment by: Edward Tomchin

Freedom? Freedom to do what? Absolute freedom we had back when we were living in the caves and trees, except our awareness wasn't very high. Absolute freedom at the other end of the scale is just as unobtainable except we live a few thousand more years.

We created governments so we could live together. To live in peace together requires the loss of some freedom. We write constitutions and laws that set the boundaries in order to live together in peace and civility. To have the freedom to enjoy the promises in the Preamble we must give up some freedoms. If you want to live free from fear, you cannot be a threat to anyone else's freedom. This requires working together, and aside from arguing, cooperation is one of our best talents.

Then we have capitalism thrown into the mix. It's one of the most competitive games we have ever created but it cannot be played without rules. We found that out in 1929 and 2008. And rules limit what people can do. They are a break on freedoms. So I ask, what are these freedoms you want so desperately yet seem unable to find?


Posted: Friday, November 8, 2013
Article comment by: az mac

Anson's Nephew
Read the bill all that is all the proof you need.


Posted: Friday, November 8, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Schmo:

You're living in obamaland. All fantasy. Why should your neighbor be responsible for paying for your health care because that's what it boils down to.

But forget that, we are nearly down the road of total re-dedistribution of wealth.

Where we are now is that we will soon have to go to the government for every single thing in our lives and that is communism.

Is that really what you want? You mistake government takeover of everything as freedom, in reality it is re-shackling us - the very thing our forebears pledged lives, fortunes, sacred honor to keep us from.

Many lost their lives, some lived in caves, nearly all lost their fortunes, many put their own money in for the cause. But they kept their honor. We have not.

We owe them a shot at keeping the freedom, something our grandchildren will never see or know if we don't stop now. We died for Europes freedom, then implement communism in our own?

Obama's 5% remark is 15 MILLION people he scoffs at but lesbians/homosexuals who get special rights in obamacare comprise only 1.5% of our population. You would think they make up half of it.


Posted: Friday, November 8, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Bob Moore - Uh, the insurance companies aren't still in the mix.”

Linda Athens - So when you go to a health exchange you are buying insurance from … who? Why do you insist upon posting this kind of trash?

And why are you – a person who really uses that government supported healthcare – so against every American having access to healthcare?


”Anson's Nephew - They now have access to your bank account thur Obamacare. They will decide if you live or die (blah, blah, blah)… This is just some of what is in the bill.”

Mac – As always totally incorrect and I will now ask that you provide us with the exact portions of the ACA that address such nonsense. Be accurate and specific. Thank you.

“It is also unconstitutional.”

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.



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