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2/14/2013 6:01:00 AM
Reader Letter: Drivers also dangerous when loaded

In the past three years or so, there have been several shootings. Some people lost loved ones and some have permanent injuries. What happened in Newtown, Conn., was extremely tragic - people having to bury their children just before Christmas. People are up in arms, wanting gun control, cutting down on the number of bullets that a clip can hold, etc. I do agree that something does need to be done.

While people are complaining about people being killed with guns, nobody mentions all of the people killed in auto accidents. I checked with AAA of Arizona. There are 40,000 people killed every year in auto accidents. Twenty-five percent of those were caused by drunken drivers. Three thousand people are killed by distracted drivers, such as people on the cell phone and texting. Something needs to be done about that.

Every state has laws on drunken driving. They need to put more teeth in the laws. Sometime back, I heard on the news that some guy in Ohio finally went to prison after his 20th DUI. As far as I'm concerned, he should have gone to prison after his third time, or even the second. Very few states have laws on talking on the cell phone or texting. I have seen commercials on TV about texting and driving. Is the message worth getting killed over?

People still text and drive, and talk on the cell phone while driving. I would like to know why so many states are so reluctant to pass laws on this problem. Maybe the lawmakers feel that there haven't been enough people killed or maimed for life to warrant passing laws on those two things.

One more thing: If you feel you need to have one for the road, make it Coke or Pepsi. Driving is a full-time job. The life you save might be your own.

Ronney L. Case

Golden Valley


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Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, March 1, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ FLS

“And you think that cases would not be thrown out and lawsuits would NOT be filed?”

So? Cases are tossed all of the time and lawsuits filed all of the time – nothing would change, but just the thought that one murdering drunk driver not being on the road would make it worth it. What I don’t understand is why do you keep defending drunk drivers?


Posted: Friday, March 1, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"Of course I am not surprised to see you supporting drunk drivers and their killing of people on the highways. Pathetic."

And you think that cases would not be thrown out and lawsuits would NOT be filed? Pathetic AN.

It seems that when it is personal, all logic and common sense on your part goes out the window. Tell you what, run your death penalty idea past a state rep. I am sure that given the circumstances they will not laugh out loud until you are gone. and cases tossed


Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: The Bottom Line

The bottom line is laws and safer built cars have drastically reduced auto-related deaths. The same could happen with guns. Responsible gun owners support such opportunities to make their ownership more secure than to listen to No-No-No-LaPierre and support NRA with membership dues.

Posted: Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Article comment by: That's Why They Are Legally Responsible for Over-serving

TJ, yea we do expect that from responsible bar tenders.

Posted: Monday, February 25, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ FLS

“No it won't, at least not after the first dozen or so lawsuits are filed.”

Lawsuits for what? Public drunkenness is against the law.

Of course I am not surprised to see you supporting drunk drivers and their killing of people on the highways. Pathetic.


Posted: Monday, February 25, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"I have a better idea. Let’s have police and sworn volunteers standing outside the door of every bar and busting everyone that comes out. THAT will keep the off the roads."

No it won't, at least not after the first dozen or so lawsuits are filed.

But hey AN, i really did not take this as being any more serious than the two you made here earlier.

Get to work getting any of them made into law, it will keep you busy. The one requiring the death penalty is a real hoot. That one alone will keep you busy 'til you die.






Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013
Article comment by: C.A. Rivera-Miller

I took the TAM class when in Las Vegas working at a Bar. Emphasized the fact that it was our responsibility to stop serving any alcohol to someone who was obviously out of control. This protected the establishment from any kind of lawsuit for encouraging their drinking. We always said we wanted to see the patron again, so wanted them to get home safely.
Since I have moved to Dolan Springs, I attempted to start a Designated Driver shuttle for anyone who needed a safe ride home. Offered it at Rosie's (when open), Castle Rock, VFW's, Legions, and other local bars.
Only bar who really used it was Rosie's. They did feel it would be too dangerous for anyone to
drive from out there if too intoxicated. They also respected the fact that not all elderly people get drunk, they just can't see at night after being out, so it was great to provide them with SAFE transportation to enjoy some time away without worrying about the drunk drivers on the roads.
None of the local places used it. I found out later that it was because the locals did not want anyone to know how drunk they were!. Yet, they sure got known for hitting someone, driving off the road or passing out in their cars and found along side the road later! Excellent suggestions from the technological point of views. Yes, the expense is more than worth it! WE KNOW ALL THE BARS WON'T CLOSE....BUT...PLEASE DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE!


Posted: Saturday, February 23, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“If you don't want to share the road with the drunks, then stay put until we get home.”

I have a better idea. Let’s have police and sworn volunteers standing outside the door of every bar and busting everyone that comes out. THAT will keep the off the roads.


Posted: Friday, February 22, 2013
Article comment by: Another Thought

If you don't want to share the road with the drunks, then stay put until we get home.

Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013
Article comment by: R H

There are a lot of 100% sober and undistracted motorists who will still endanger the public. This odd desire to ensure safety by government edict will not make any of you safer but it WILL make you less free. If you think that government always has your best interests at heart when it puts limits on your freedom , you are dangerously naive. There is ALWAYS a price.

Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

"Haha what are you suggesting??"

Do their job per Arizona law, cut off the obvious drunks and insist they take alternate transportaton home and not drive. HAHAHA!


Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Dean, theres about 200 people in a popular bar in kingman on the weekend, do you expect the bartender to stop all of em, breath test them and then subdue them? Haha what are you suggesting??

Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013
Article comment by: Dean Wolslagel

One thing would be enforcing the regulations at Bars who let drunks leave and get into the car in the first place. I have seen many drunks leave bars and the bartender doesn’t care once the person gets out the door.

Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013
Article comment by: Technology is The Answer

The letter raises two issues. Death/injury by auto and by firearms. Many have said new laws will not help. That is not true. Laws do modify human activity. Will new gun laws eliminate all gun violence? Of course not. Will new laws restricting use of cell phones or dealing more severely with drunk drivers help? Yes, but people will still sneak a text in resulting in auto accidents or get behind the wheel even without a license. But new laws will help.

However technology could do much to eliminate irresponsible activity that harm others. Why not have guns with hand sensitivity that allow only the owner to fire? That would certainly eliminate the thousands of curious children that kill themselves or others. It would certainly eliminate the "bad guy" from using someone else's gun. It would allow responsible gun owners the "pleasure" of firing their gun. Technology could also help with auto deaths. Why not require vehicles to have breathalyzers or a computer tests only able to be passed by sober drivers before the engine starts. Cell phones could be programmed to shut down when they enter a car. Yea, I know - the cost. Oh, the cost of all that technology would add to the price of a gun or an auto. Is it less costly to individual families or our society to have to deal with the lose of a life?


Posted: Friday, February 15, 2013
Article comment by: Bending the Laws

Arizona has some of the most strict DUI laws in the nation. The problem is that they do not apply to EVERYONE. A second DUI in this state calls for an automatic minimum of four months in prison, and could be up to three and a half years in prison. Recently Mark Grace was convicted of a second DUI and got four months in jail, not prison, where he is allowed out for twelve hours a day to go to work. An obvious exception to the law. Trish Groe, a state legislator, who helped enact these laws, got a second DUI whlie driving on a suspended license. Her conviction was lowered to a misdemeanor and she did ten days in jail. Just because someone is rich and famous our judicial system bends the rules to accomadate them. After all they are the only ones who have a life. If they are going to make these laws then they need to apply to everyone, all the time, with no exception.

Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

You are correct - statistically an American is more likely to be killed in any number of ways, traffic accidents included, than as the result of a "shooter."

Then again, terrorism also kills 0 Americans a year in the last decade and we spend $Billions on that. Meanwhile preventable food-borne illness kills dozens a year every year.

Availability bias. Google it. It's why Americans seem to think they'll be murdered at any moment but other real problems are not so great.


Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013
Article comment by: ole guy

A friend in Canada sent me an email with a 2 min. video of what they do to stop drunk driving in Singapore. The offender is stripped naked, tied to a board (or whatever) then is whipped with a cane stick, at least 9 times. Till the buttocks are good and bloody. Can't sit too well after that for quite a while. Sure has cut down on drunk driving in Sigapore.
Naw, the US wouldn never go for this "corporal punishment"!


Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013
Article comment by: Richard Kale

I don't think taking the drivers license away will do anything. They will just drive without them. Also, selling their car. I would bet, today there are a lot of people driving without a license. If we want anaything to change, the laws have to be backed up and really made stronger. You use a gun in crime, prison for life, you have a accident with a car (your at fault) prison for 5 years. We got to make our laws mean somthing. today, they are just part of a money making thing for lawyers.

Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Having lost my first wife to a drunk with five previous DUI’s who suffered zero consequences for murdering her I have long advocated strong penalties for drunk drivers.

First offense – loss of driver’s license for life, vehicle impounded and sold, one year in prison.

Second offense – Death. Person who gave the drunk the vehicle loss of license for life, one year in jail, vehicle impounded and sold.


Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013
Article comment by: The Fox Hound

Great letter Mr Case I couldn't agree more. The reason for this is simple the cell phone companies have a lot of political power. Like the gun lobby they want no laws passed that will slow the billions in profits they charge us for talking on the phone. 70 percent of NRA members want background checks too but the NRA leaders would not likely tell you that or pursue what their members want. It's always the money that rules. They get their money from gun manufactures not members. Kind of like both political parties, they get their money from the rich so why would they care about the middle class.

Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2013
Article comment by: Rick O'Shea

I agree, I would like to see a mandatory 6 months probation if law enforcement catches someone texting or talking on a phone while driving, if they are caught again while on probation they would lose their license for 3 months. Don't you find Americans hilarious that one type of death rate is unmentionable while another is looked upon as a horrific occurrence.



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