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4/23/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Gosnell case shows our sense of morality is missing

Seems that the world is hooked on the Jodi Arias trial to hear all the sordid details of her sex life. But when a murder trial in Philadelphia for Dr. Kermit Gosnell, an abortionist, is in its fifth week, there is no media coverage from the big TV stations or big-time reporters! Why? It's big in Philly, but not nationally!

Dr. Kermit Gosnell is on trial for killing seven newborns by severing their brains from their spinal cords using scissors. A number of witnesses heard the screaming of the babies as he did this. Also, a young woman died in his filthy clinic. The clinic had not been inspected for 17 years.

We know that the president and his administration promote abortion and push contraceptives on the populace. Planned Parenthood gets millions of taxpayer dollars a year. You can find all the sordid details of this trial on the web.

What has happened to America's sense of morality and respect for human life? God help us!

Gisela Potokar

Kingman




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Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, May 3, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Frankie

“… even though it is Planned Parenthoods primary money maker.”

Why do you insist upon posting incorrect information? Ninety-seven percent of the services offered by Planned Parenthood do not have anything to do with abortion. And as always – Don’t like abortion, don’t have one. In all other cases mind your own business.

“For some odd reason it was not reported on by ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, and PBS. (feel free to check on it, AN)”

As always I did and as always found you to be wrong. Why do you insist that I always prove you wrong? The problem is that you rely on right wing sources instead of actually checking to see if what they are telling you is correct. A simple search proved the above named networks did cover the speech.

“Get it right, AN, no major news outlets other than FOX have covered the trial …”

So the people who showed up here claiming, “NO MEDIA HAS COVERED THIS TRAIL!” were simply lying. Got it. Thank you again for proving my original post as being correct.

”And as someone who heartily approves of abortion, aka ‘murdering childre’", I'm sure you agree with their position.”

Why are you so often wrong? I have consistently come out against the “murdering” of children and I want to see the Christians who – so far – have killed two of their kids based on some religious claptrap put to death for their sins.

“By the way, it's Frank Lee, not Frankie, But if you like, just call me Mr. Lee.”

Nah, I like Frankie.

“And I promise I will never refer to you as ‘Annie’.”

Feel free to call me Annie if it makes you feel better. You have my permission and I will always “LOL” when you do.

w/c298




Posted: Friday, May 3, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

In related non-reporting by the major networks, obama gave a speech to Planned Parenthood the other day. Of course, it was reported on by FOX. MSNBC reported on it as well, calling it "history making". For some odd reason it was not reported on by ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, and PBS. (feel free to check on it, AN)

Link:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2013/05/02/obama-speaks-staunchly-planned-parenthood-skipped-abc-cbs-nbc-npr-pbs

You will, of course, screech about it being a "rightist" source. LoL. One thing it pointed out was that in his speech he never once uttered the word "abortion", even though it is Planned Parenthoods primary money maker.

Since the other news outlets never miss an opportunity to cover obama, one has to wonder why. Could it be that just like covering the Gosnell trial it would put abortion in a bad light and would be highlighting obama's support for Planned Parenthoods abortion mills?

Face it, the above news outlets will never run anything that will make obama look bad.

It makes me....

LOL


Posted: Thursday, May 2, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"And you have shown that I was correct when I stated that the Gosnell story has received media attention,"

Let's go to the major network news outlets and how they have covered the Gosnell trial, shall we?

Link:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2013/05/02/nbc-plays-clinics-location-low-income-neighborhood-first-report-gosne

Now show me a link or two of coverage by the other news outlets since the trial began.

He is likely to go down as one of the U.S.'s biggest seriel killers, yet major new outlets are not coverihg it. Gee, I wonder why"?: ABC news widely covered the Casey Anthyony trial, complete with graphic descriptions of the childs decomposing body in the car trunk, but they think that the details of the Gosnell case are too gruesome.

Get it right, AN, no major news outlets other than FOX have covered the trial as much as they had covered the Anthony and the Arias trials simply because they love abortion and see this case as hurting the pro child murder cause.

And as someone who heartily approves of abortion, aka "murdering children", I'm sure you agree with their position.

By the way, it's Frank Lee, not Frankie, But if you like, just call me Mr. Lee. I always either use your full screen name or AN. And I promise I will never refer to you as "Annie".

As always, you make me.....

LOL



Posted: Thursday, May 2, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

JL

“Next time just admit you don't have the answer, it's okay, we all don't know everything.”

Please indicate where I have said I do not have an answer in this thread? Oh, wait, I advised you to seek education and that… well, we know how righties react to that.

BTW – will you answer the question regarding what punishment you would mandate for a woman who has an abortion? Please be specific as what you would have done to her. Thanks.


Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013
Article comment by: J L

@ Anson's Nephew - Next time just admit you don't have the answer, it's okay, we all don't know everything.



Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013
Article comment by: Lost in America on the Right Wing

@ J L
First you said:

Humans have to form, I believe the forming of human beings start at conception ...

Then you said

A baby is formed at conception.

Again, which is it? Forming or formed? It is difficult to understand your theory when you don't even understand it.



Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Frankie

“You will disregard the source as being ‘right-wing’ as you usually do.”

As usual you post something that is totally untrue. I only call people out for using actual right wing sources like WND, FAUX News, The Gasbag, the Rodeo Clown and other right wing shouting heads. Why do you keep posting such nonsense about me?

And you have shown that I was correct when I stated that the Gosnell story has received media attention, despite the ravings here that “NO MEDIA HAS COVERED THE STORY!”

Thank you for confirming my posts.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

TEEJE

“Kicking someone off the planet...executing them for their murderous crimes against their god given children... in my opinion, they no longer deserve to live on this earth,…”

What is your problem? I have agreed with you time and time again that the murderers of children, like the Christian couple that has – so far – killed two of their kids - need to be put to death. What part of that don’t you get?

And BTW – children are the result of a sexual act and nothing more. Biology 101.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Jimi Lightfoot

Only in “Liberal Land,” is the medical procedure of a vaginal ultrasound considered “rape”, but the scraping out and suctioning pieces of a live, developing baby out of a womb is considered a “medical procedure.”

Pass the Polar Bear gravy.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

You will disregard the source as being "right-wing" as you usually do. But here are the facts about just one news network, ABC, and their biggest show Good Morning America:

Forty two days ago, on March 18, 2013, abortionist Kermit Gosnell went on trial, charged with the grisly murder of multiple babies and a patient. Yet, in the seven weeks that followed, ABC News has permitted no coverage, discussion or mention of the case, not even a single utterance of Dr. Gosnell’s name.

But that’s not due to lack of interest in shocking criminal cases. Over the same 42 days, the Media Research Center found that ABC’s Good Morning America has aired 41 stories — about one per day — on other sensational criminal cases, including the Amanda Knox re-trial and the Jodi Arias case, totaling 109 minutes of coverage.

So it would seem that ABC doesn’t have a problem delivering the gruesome details of murder cases to morning show viewers, suggesting that the networks’ blackout of the Gosnell case has more to do with the negative light it shines on the abortion industry."

Link: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2013/04/29/gma-devotes-109-minutes-other-trials-not-one-second-gosnell-horror-0#ixzz2RyA3Cc6x

But I am sure you can come back and say that some NPR or some other leftist source did one story on it when he was first arrested.

And, as always, I am.....

LOL


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Tj Denton

I forgot how to talk to someone who is so out of touch. My apologies. Kicking someone off the planet...executing them for their murderous crimes against their god given children...in my opinion, they no longer deserve to live on this earth, Along with anyone who supports it.

Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

TEEJE

“Well youre a great friend.”

Thank you, I like to think so.

“In my opinion if you murder your child, fetus, whatever spin a liberal wants to put on it, simply because youre not ready for a child, then you deserve to be kicked off the planet.”

Actually the removal of a fetus is in no way similar to the murder of a child. What a ridiculous comparison to make. As to child murder, I agree completely. The two Christians who – so far – have killed two of their children in the name of some inane religious belief deserve the death penalty.

“Same as first degree murder of a vulnerable individual if you ask me. So theres your precious answer.”

It is not my “precious answer” and actually it is not an answer. I specifically asked for the punishment you would impose not the charges you would file. Want to try again?


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

JL

“@ Anson's Nephew- Where is this Biology 101 and 201 you are talking about? Give me a link to look up.”

Oh, I am so sorry, like many things in real life some knowledge cannot be obtained by a “link.” And in this instance it will be necessary for you to attend at least two years of University to gain the actual knowledge.

“But I don't want ‘theory" I want proof.”

And once you have completed the requisite classes you will have empirical proof. Good luck.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Well youre a great friend. In my opinion if you murder your child, fetus, whatever spin a liberal wants to put on it, simply because youre not ready for a child, then you deserve to be kicked off the planet. Same as first degree murder of a vulnerable individual if you ask me. So theres your precious answer.

Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@ Roy Leggett
As someone who was in for 24 yrs and is married to a 20 yr vet...perhaps you'd like to explain that? Military medical insurance does not pay for abortions unless the life of the mother is in danger. The military does not provide abortions on demand to active duty members either. Almost every person covered under military medical would need to use a civilian clinic and pay out of pocket. Every female active duty member I knew that had the procedure did indeed do just that. They also had to take regular leave for any recovery period just as I did for a voluntary procedure I had done.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: J L

@ Anson's Nephew- Where is this Biology 101 and 201 you are talking about? Give me a link to look up. But I don't want "theory" I want proof.

@ Lost in America on the right wing - Humans have to form, I believe the forming of human beings start at conception, meaning there is a soul and it is a "human being", not a parasite like Anson's Nephew thinks it is.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Who Is Obtuse?

@ Anson's Nephew - For your information, your entire reply to me was waste, except when you stated -"No, I hold the position that a woman’s right to chose will always be my position whether nattering busybodies make the procedure illegal or not.". Now you sound just like those people supporting the 2nd Amendment. But this is when you got to the point and directly stated it, which is about time, and without further waste of our time!

Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Roy Boy

“When our government stops paying for abortions with tax money, then it may be the womans choice.”

Since government does not pay for abortions it will always be a woman’s choice.

“I treated one lady who had 4 abortions and tax money paid for all of them.”

Sorry, as FLS is so fond of saying, “I have to call BS on this one.”

“And yes, abortion is murder.”

No it is not.


Posted: Saturday, April 27, 2013
Article comment by: Roy Leggett

When our government stops paying for abortions with tax money, then it may be the womans choice. Working at military hospital for 36 years, ...oh I forgot...as OB-Gyn I have more knowledge about pregnacies than the average person, especially males. I treated one lady who had 4 abortions and tax money paid for all of them.This was in a period of four years. She used abortion as birth control. The best birth control is "KEEP YOUR PANTS UP.And yes, abortion is murder.

Posted: Saturday, April 27, 2013
Article comment by: Lost In America on the right wing

@ JL
You said
"A human must be formed and I believe it is at conception."
And then you said
"A human being must form ..."
Which is it? Formed at conception or formed after development?


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

JL

“A human must be formed and I believe it is at conception.”

Okay, that is your “belief” – however others do not agree with that position.

“A pararsite is an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment it causes harm.”

Nope, incorrect information. A parasite MAY BE from another species, but it does necessarily track that that is always the case. Biology 201.

“No, the fetus is not a parasite.”

Yes a fetus is a parasite – Biology 101.


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

TEEJE

“Say your friends a dying alcoholic, their body, perfectly legal. Mind your own business.”

Yep, not my problem.

”Abuses their percribed medication, their body, mind your own business.”

Yep, not my problem.

”Wants to commit suicide, their body, their life, mind your own business.”

Yep, not my problem

”And a child in the womb is not a parasite…”

Uhh, kid, a child is not in the womb – that would be a fetus and a fetus is a parasite. Biology 101.

“… the only parasite in the human race is someone who can sleep at night knowing that they ended the life of an innocent child.”

Well I guess I would go along with that. Killing children is a terrible thing.

And when are you going to tell us what punishment you would inflict upon a woman who undergoes an abortion? The righties seem to be so hot to speak up - except on that point! Why is that?


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Obtuse (Boy I’ll Say!)

“… your previous cryptic comments have suddenly become clearer to me. Do I understand your position correctly by stating that you support a person's right to choose abortion only because it is currently allowed as a legal procedure? If abortion was not legally allowed as a medical procedure, then you would not support a person's right to choose it?”

Righties always manage to put an incorrect spin on someone’s words. It’s really a rather pathetic – but oft repeated – canard.

No, I hold the position that a woman’s right to chose will always be my position whether nattering busybodies make the procedure illegal or not.

”Why do you continuously impede, redirect, and denigrate other people with your comments, when your position, when deciphered, actually runs parallel to theirs but with a slight but notable difference?”

Nope, there is no parallel whatsoever between my position on a what a woman does with her body as a personal medical decision and the nattering busybodies who want to interfere with that decision.

“Just directly state the difference and end the chaos, insult and confusion you regularly add in your comments. Your obvious desire to play puppeteer with people who have strong passions is causing us all a waste of time.”

Waste of time? Only if you chose to read my comment s- bit of advice, stop reading them

And now that you have weighed in I will ask that you present us with your mandated punishment for a woman who has an abortion? Thank you.


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: J L

@ TJ Denton - right on! A baby is formed at conception. A human must be formed and I believe it is at conception.

Anson's Nephew states it is a parasite. A pararsite is an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment it causes harm.

No, the fetus is not a parasite. It is a young, developing human being. The head forms first in the first months after conception and the brain forms. A human being must form and to develop all the characteristics of an adult human. Every child is a miracle.

I understand there are many different stories how a woman gets pregnant whether good or bad, but these babies who can not speak yet and can not comprehend need voices to speak for their lives. How about them? What if they want to be born and live and breath and have a choice? What about them?


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Fine anson. Say your friends a dying alcoholic, their body, perfectly legal. Mind your own business.

Abuses their percribed medication, their body, mind your own business.

Wants to commit suicide, their body, their life, mind your own business.

And a child in the womb is not a parasite, the only parasite in the human race is someone who can sleep at night knowing that they ended the life of an innocent child.



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