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8/18/2013 5:59:00 AM
Letter: Dead farmers don't grow crops

Daniel Greenfield reports General Motors is losing $59,000 on every Chevy Volt. In other words, you can buy a 2013 BMW M3 with the money lost on every Volt. This from industry analysts and manufacturing experts.

GM is cutting its price from $39,995 to $34,995. The reason? No one wants them. In an effort to at least get customers into the Chevy showrooms, they are leasing them, sometimes for two years for just $5,000. A vehicle that can cost as much as $89,000 to make! We can hardly wait for the Yugo.

Meanwhile, CNS News reports the Department of Agriculture made farm subsidy payments to 28,613 dead farmers between 2011 and 2012. Of those, 1,799 were deemed "improper." If they were all dead, they weren't all improper? No, when government is involved, it always gets a little more complicated. The "improper" ones were fraud, as in paperwork being filled out as if farmer John is still alive, that type of thing. Some were clerical errors.

Not to worry! It was only $3.3 million and they've created more government jobs trying to round up the lost money. At least someone is working.

Farm subsidy payments have always stymied me. In my strange thinking, it seems odd to pay people to not grow something. The farmer doesn't grow something, the government pays him, it manipulates the cost of that product they aren't growing, etc. We actually "distribute" $20 billion a year to 1 million farmers to not grow something. I could not grow something if they would pay me, but there would be all that government paperwork to fill out, so forget it.

I think they have it under control for the future, though. They are going to match crop insurance records with Social Security death files. More jobs created.

George Washington was a farmer. I'm going to guess George wouldn't understand this either. He would probably feel better just selling a basket of cherries by the roadside for actual money and leave the government out.

Linda Athens

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, August 20, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@enigma enigma

"or find that magic replacement for fossil fuels"

I recommend tapping the potential of unicorn flatulence as fuel, if you are looking for a "magic" replacement.

"many will look back and laugh...."

So you say that the current battery technology is not that good and electric/hybrid cars have "quirks" (translation, they suck) and amny people in the future will be laughing at those who complain that they are currently not worth buying and are not stupid enough to buy “quirky” electric/hybrid cars like the Volt that are so rejected by consumers that the government has to offer people bribes to buy one?

Reality called, a a, they want to know why you never stop by.

Related news. A company called ECOtality, funded with 100 million govt. bucks is on the verge of filing bankruptcy. Thier product? Commercial charging stations for electric vehicles. Source? A pro-green industry website called greentechmedia (dot) com. Don't know whether to laugh at their inevitable failure, or cry at the waste of 100 million tax dollars

Nice to know highly of electric cars, and own a Volt. Just kidding, I know you don't have one.

LOL


Posted: Tuesday, August 20, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@melissa bosshard

"So, why haven't you hired these obvious democrats to write for you?" (meaning me)

What a hoot. I am far from being a "know it all", but I do know that you obviously have not read any of my comments if you think I am a democrat.


Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013
Article comment by: maggie passaro

I'm not sure how one would go about proof and disclosure and discovery, but I suspect that Monsanto is behind the " pay to not grow" plan. As with all other gov. regulated 'anything" it's flawed, corrupt, and controlled by the top 6 corporations of the world.
Oh well, at least I got to eat a real homegrown NON-GMO grown beefsteak tomato....my granny grew them , and i could woof down an entire platter full, and I am more than grateful for that....we never miss the water, till the well runs dry.


Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"You need to stop voting for republicans then."

The last farm bill failed in the House. But Republicans did have 24 dems voting with them. Would you like the list of their names? The list is very easy to find. It is available at "politico", which was my source. Being the staunch leftist that you are, I am sure the "daily kos" will be more your sort of source. LoL

You can send a stern letter to the two AZ reps that were in that group of 24. I'm sure they will give it the attention it deserves. Be sure to add all 24 to your list of “evil pawns of capitalists who don't care for the poor”.

LOL


Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013
Article comment by: enigma enigma

Technology is sometimes slow, sometimes fast, when they do fix these electric vehicle quirks, faults or find that magic replacement for fossil fuels such as a possible renewable bio-fuel they are working on or a battery which can hold a decent charge, many will look back and laugh at how the folks complaining, whining were just that habitual complainers who are not happy unless they have something to whine and complain about!

Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013
Article comment by: Buck Wheat

The median household income in the US is about $52,000 per year. Roughly for every $1 million that government wastes, it costs the entire annual income of 20 households. A billion dollars in waste is 20,000 households. Compare this to the specious claims of job creation. Government is second only to war as a machine to destroy wealth.


Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013
Article comment by: No Name

Linda perhaps your definition of a farmer in you article is lacking. For instance Budweiser gets farm subsidies an yet makes beer. They are paid not to grow material need for their beer. Nothing to do with farming for the every day Joe. Nabisco is another of your farmers who are paid huge amounts of federal money not to grow crops. It is time for the government to put a cap on what is a traditional farmer and stop giving our tax dollars to corporations who clearly do not need it. Oh and by the way the program is called PICK or payment in kind. Farmers are paid a percentage of what they harvest per acre for land they did not plant to include swamp land and lakes on their property.

Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@AN

"“GM is cutting its price from $39,995 to $34,995. The reason? No one wants them.”

Untrue, as usual. Where do you get this trash?"

Sorry, but that is true. Not for the reasons stated though. Try again.


Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Melissa Bosshard

Dear KDM, I have been a resident of this city going on 14 years now and have read your paper most of that time. I will tell you it has not been every day, but I do manage to get my hands on a paper a couple of times a week, and now with you on the internet, I am here a lot more. I have just one question for whoever is running things there. Why haven't you hired one of these people who seem to know everything-so much so that every time I read a paper and go the the letters to editor, I can always, yes always count on the likes of Frank Lee Speakin or Anson's nephew discounting something one of your writers have submitted. They spew such hateful and know it all remarks ALL THE TIME. It doesn't matter the subject, but these jokers know better and tell you so. So, why haven't you hired these obvious democrats to write for you? Or, are they like their cohorts, they just want to tell you how wrong you are, without any constructive contribution?

Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: vock canyon

After looking at a chevy volt I just don't see more than $7 or $8k in parts. I think that they are just over pricing again. $89k, what a fantasy. Funny how after awhile folks just price themselves out of a market. Not a chance I would pay some $35 k for a new car.

Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: BEWARE FARMER AHEAD MR.C.

@ L.A. Farming is a risky business and well meaning people who are some times "stymied" by farming methods, using words like government subsidies in the same sentence only make the occupation even more hazards. Legitimate farmers already know in advance of planting season what crops they intend to put in the ground, Thus they have no need of subsidies.





Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

LA: “GM is cutting its price from $39,995 to $34,995."

AN: "Untrue, as usual. Where do you get this trash?"

The "trash" may have come from.....

LA Times says the price cut to $34,995
CBS News says price cut of 5k to $34,995
USA Today says price cut of 5k. To $34,995
WSJ says the price is cut to 35k and tax incentives could bring the price to $27,500
Detroit News says they are cutting the price for '14 models PLUS they have a 5k “give-back” on '12 models and 4k "give-back" on '13 models.
CNN Money says price cut to 35k, with tax incentives, down to $27,500

Do a search with "gm cuts price of chevy volt" and there are pages of results saying the same thing.

But these sources are nothing alongside the word “Untrue” from AN? (that's sarcasm AN) LoL Now what are your sources to refute them? And remember, made up AN BS “facts” from the self-described “confused old man” don't count as a source.

And if you don't respond, be sure to claim you did and KDM is “censoring” you again.

Keep on making me......

LOL


Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Bob Moore:

Brilliant analysis. I think you out did yourself this time.

And said....absolutely NOTHING. LOL! Too funny.


Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: John Doe

Just a word to the author about the Chevy Volt. GET A LIFE!

Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Daniel Greenfield reports General Motors is losing $59,000 on every Chevy Volt.”

Incorrect, but not surprising considering the source.

“GM is cutting its price from $39,995 to $34,995. The reason? No one wants them.”

Untrue, as usual. Where do you get this trash?

“Meanwhile, CNS News …”

Oops that discredited news source again? Pathetic.

“Farm subsidy payments have always stymied me. In my strange thinking, it seems odd to pay people to not grow something.”

You need to stop voting for Republicans then.


Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Trained Observer

As usual, this writer quotes obscure "news" sources that most people have never heard of or read. Did it occur to anyone that it is possible that people often die on a timetable that doesn't correspond to any of the government timelines? Or that there are widows or widowers trying to sort things out after someone's death? Its always interesting how these kinds of letters are published in order to spark some great moral outrage out of what is essentially a non-issue.
And as for BMWs, thats the country that brought us Hitler. Remember that when you buy something designed there.


Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Thank Goodness

Thank goodness! Finally an article that didn't blame Obama for something. You didn't even implicate that it was some kind of coverup! However, before I drop to the floor from shock, I must say that the government has been paying farmers not to grow certain crops for many decades. The only reason I can think of why they do this is to maintain a competitive market.

Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

By reading this, it is easy to tell that the confused author knows nothing about farmers, farming, nor what they do.



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