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12/10/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Disneyland on the corner

I moved here 21 years ago. It was nice then, but now I wonder what the city of Kingman is up too. They say that downtown Kingman needs to be fixed. Well, it's a little late and the city let it get that way. They let it go until the cost got so high no owners want to pay the cost to fix it up. Now the city has a building that they can't afford to fix and cant find a buyer. Well how about dropping the price and selling it as is? Get out from under it.

Then there is Stockton Hill and Airway, a little late there, too. Don't think about traffic first, just build and issue permits. Now there's talk about a roundabout that may take a couple of years to build. Talk about traffic. Why not build a Disneyland on that corner to go along with the zoo they have already?

Is there any thought put into things they do (city) before they do them? Just wondering.

Bob Sodaro

Kingman




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Reader Comments

Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013
Article comment by: Nick Schmidt

I recently drove in France and still
am dizzy. Rural roads, traffic none,
roundabouts galore. They work if
they are the rule and not the exemption. Downtown Disneyland ? Excuse me. But contact Cham-
ber of Commerce in Gatlinburg.
How they started it and how long
did it take out of red ink.


Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013
Article comment by: Sante Fe Jay

Roundabout........The one in Wickenburg is super simple. The one located in Cabazon, Ca (for the outlet malls) is an actual figure 8 under a freeway.....again, no problem as long as you stay in school past the 7th grade!

Downtown Kingman....again, it's the fact that this city has no municipal code. They allow any business to set up shop anywhere and paint their business any color they want (look at 4th and Andy Devine). This city could be as nice looking downtown as Williams if we had 5 people on the council with some guts to make some tough codes. No, I'm not going to move to Williams because I don't like that much snow.


Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

"Forget "low bids". If a local firm is close to the low bid then let's keep our own firms in business."

Yep...let's violate state and local law and do whatever the hell we feel like.

The roundabout might be a good idea when a major project is being done initially, but adding it after the fact at the proposed location would be pretty crazy.
I've driven them in Australia, the Bahamas, and the UK and though they are an initial shock to some, they do work well. Heck, the small Ohio town I grew up in had basically a roundabout in the city center. Maybe thats why I adapted quickly.

Wickenburg is a no brainer if you look at the signs and road markings.


Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013
Article comment by: R .

What, are you kidding? Kingman government is NOT pro-business, they hassle prospective entrepreneurs and business owners until they often give up. Ask around, look at some of the shuttered businesses and find out how many people tried to reopen those shuttered locations and gave up because the city hassled them over ridiculous stuff like inapplicable codes. Wake up.

As for the roundabout...it's a horrendous...HORRENDOUS idea! They are recipes for accidents. Interconnect the various parking lots (like Smith's into Walmart, for example) and start allowing Uturns at intersections like normal cities, rather than requiring one right turn after the other out of parking lots so I have to go the backway home instead of my making another stop to spend my money at another business. That's right, I often will just go home rather than go through the trouble of backtracking to get to another business like fast food restaurants and places like that. Hey, I should thank the city because I keep more cash in my pocket this way but the businesses lose! It doesn't take more than an ounce of common sense, it's hard to believe so many city "leaders" here lack severely in that department!


Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013
Article comment by: Stormy Weather

I would like to comment on all the road repairs that took place recently (N. Bank, Gordon etc.). Quite a bit of money was spent for road repairs and sidewalks. Did anyone in the planning stage take into account the "Americans with Disabilities Act". I was under the impression that curbs on corners need to have ramps for wheelchairs. Where are the ramps??

Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013
Article comment by: jericho vaughn

I do not think the "roundabout" concept is a great idea! That's Kingman planning for you..."throw a roundabout it will fix things". I have a solution, but I keep it to myself. As a designer in the engineering field for 8 years working on various watching Kingman grown I have worked on projects like: KRMC, In-n-out, Mohave State Bank, Oasis Day Spa, Kingman White Cliffs, etc. now I am a founder of a engineering business here in town. Point being is that there are way too many business entrances off of Stockton Hill Road and too many lights. Sad to say we use Stockton hill road as our 101, why do we have 11 lights from Northern to Hualapai?

Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013
Article comment by: Corbin Lee

@Trained Observer...
I have lived and been to MANY mid-size and larger cities and this does not pale whatsoever. The overall people and traffic is about the worst I had ever driven in. I stressed everyday when I had to get out and drive. I definitely learned the definition of road rage! I have been less stressed driving in cities with over 1,000,000 residents!!!
Oh...and I did move! Best thing that ever happened!


Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013
Article comment by: Myself in Kingman

All who have to deal with the round-de-round in Wickenburg have to ask, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??? Now they want to bring that concept to an already horrible intersection in Kingman. People! Wake up!!!

Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013
Article comment by: Kingman Resident-1

Hey O.K.R.,
In referring to the Griswalds, I was being facetious.
As far as experienced engineering firms, there are at least 2 here in town which are quite capable of conducting a traffic study. Forget "low bids". If a local firm is close to the low bid then let's keep our own firms in business.


Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013
Article comment by: Trained Observer

Stockton Hill and Airway pales in comparison to any other mid sized city in the US in terms of businesses and traffic. If you do not like this city, feel free to move.

Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

"I have no idea what "genius" thought that a traffic circle was a good idea. I defer to the movie "European Vacation" with the Griswalds. "

Yeah, that's a great idea, why hire an experienced engineer when we have comedy movies to base our decisions on.


Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Article comment by: Kingman Resident-1

Bob,
In answer to your question, "Is there any thought put into things they do (city) before they do them?"
Why Coytanly as "Curly" would say. The City hires an engineer from who knows where (it wasn't here) to do a traffic study. Now, being a former construction worker and engineering tech. myself, I have no idea what "genius" thought that a traffic circle was a good idea. I defer to the movie "European Vacation" with the Griswalds. As far as the other intersections, supposedly they are being included in this, so called, traffic study. Detroit Ave. to Airway Ave. Again, being done by an out of state engineering firm. Your tax dollars hard at work my friend.


Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Article comment by: Rick Sherwood

All one has to do is look at who is Mayor and Vice Mayor and question will be answered.

Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Article comment by: Another Nation Heard From

Well Mr Sadard,here's my response to your letter (a good letter actually). First the city does not control the property owners downtown.

The majority of buildings and vacant lots that make up the growing blighter area are out of towners. The property taxes for these beat up, vacant buildings are so low that there is no incentive to either sell or improve the property or work to get tenants.

Second, the building that you're refering to - the old Arnold building is owned by the county, not the city.

And finally, the city encourages citizen involvement - numerous city commissions, open meetings, and yes, one like yourself, who seems to be passionate about our city - a run for council or Board of Supervisor.


Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Article comment by: The Fox Hound

I agree Bob seems like sometimes it looks like not much planning went into our city. But to be fair it is no easy task. People come to them and want to open a business that is going to pay taxes. What are they to do. I think the best idea I've heard so far is connect all the parking lots. That seems to make a lot of sense and it would be the cheapest solution and buy a little time. It takes courage to tell someone, "hey we already got enough tire stores on Stockton Hill. May Bank st would be better.

Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Article comment by: Rick O'Shea

It's a small town Bob, what do you expect, do you think you will get someone running the town or county that has experience in running a large city or county, I don't think so, and if elected positions keep getting filled with locals it will never get better.



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