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12/12/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Leave Islam out of history books

I have mentioned this issue in another letter, but I feel it really needs to be addressed on a greater scale.

I am wondering beyond any sensible answer coming to mind, why is it okay and parents aren't screaming about the fact that high school students are being taught about Islam in school? Why are Christians and those who want religion kept out of the schools not having a temper fit over this? Why does the Kingman Academy allow world history books with these teachings, including prayers?

What is wrong with the atheist? Where are you people who have attacked Christianity and caused God to be removed from as many places as possible? Is it okay that Islam can be taught, including their prayers, as long as a little Christianity and other religions are thrown in?

Do parents really not know or understand the agenda and propaganda that is being exploited upon their children? Or do they just not care? It's okay if they learn about the existence of the Bible, as long as the Quran is thrown in.

To those who want to continue to believe that the United Nations, Common Core and what your children are being taught are not intertwined: either you simply are too lazy, believe yourself to be too busy or have put your trust in government to the degree it is detrimental and negligent to your child(ren)!

I picked my granddaughter up from school and she left her world history book, so I read through parts of it before it was picked up. I did not expect what I found!

Of course the book doesn't go into detail of the practice of their belief - that when a girl turns 12, the mother and aunts cut the clitoris out of her. Why? Because Muslim Islam Sharia practice the oppression of women and they have no pleasures in life, not in sex, driving or going out by themselves etc.

Is this what you really want for your daughters' futures? Wake up, Americans!

Amaryllis Smith

Kingman

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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, January 7, 2014
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

Mr. Moore, where do you get that I never read any of the books I referred to When the quran is the only one I have stated I have not and don't ever intend to.
How do you think I would be able to state what was in the History book or the paperback on Muslim Islam Sharia if I hadn't read it for myself??? You really are a thorn!!!


Posted: Saturday, January 4, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“You ended your review of it by telling how you threw it in the garbage to make sure no one else would ever read it.”

Frankie, I see that you again need to have explained what a book reviewer does. First lets’ see exactly what I said, “I did the world a favor by tossing this one in the trash and not donating it to the county library where someone might read it and believe the garbage that lies between the covers.”

You need to understand I tossed my personal copy of the book AFTER READING IT because I did not want some intellectually challenged person to be misled by the garbage it contained. I never said no one should read it – I simply made certain no one would ever be able to read my personal copy of it.

Re the original comment - Ms Smith stated she has never read the Quran, or the book she condemned “Muslim Islam Sharia,” or the history text she vilified. And yet, having not read them she feels qualified to condemn these books?

“That book did not make your ‘approved list’.”

I challenge you to produce my “list” of “approved” books.

w/9


Posted: Friday, January 3, 2014
Article comment by: Frank lee Speaking

"I understand that you do not like for anyone to ever read a book not on your approved list"

If memory serves (and it does), not too long ago you wrote a column reviewing books. In it you mentioned a book written by a conservative. You ended your review of it by telling how you threw it in the garbage to make sure no one else would ever read it.

That book did not make your "approved list".


Posted: Monday, December 30, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

have some fun learning the history of Islamic-Christian relations. Learn what the Muslims did to the defeated Christians of Cyprus, and during the battle for Malta, which the Christians held (the Muslims placed captured Christians in cannons and fired them over the walls to their fellow defenders. The Christians then beheaded their own Muslim captives, then shot the heads with their cannons, over the walls to their fellow attackers. Affairs in the Mediterranean at that time were settled in the Battle of Lepanto in 1571, when the combined Christian navies, led courageously and effectively by Spain, destroyed the Ottoman fleet in what historians describe as the most significant naval battle in world history. But what must be noted throughout all these campaigns is that it was the Muslims who were the aggressor. Their first major opportunities for expansion were due to Byzantine-Parthian wars which exhausted those two powers. So you might say that Muslims were opportunists. And I agree with people here who wish to deny Muslims the opportunity - whether overtly or by insidious means - to overtake America. (one apology here - I had to use historians' definition of Christian, when in my opinion it was often an abuse of the term)

Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“…at St. John's United Methodist Church, Yes in Kingman, ended up being given the book Muslim Islam Sharia by local Dr. Saleem.”

And again. I understand that you do not like for anyone to ever read a book not on your approved list, but that’s what true freedom is all about.

Seriously you need to actually read the Bible you supposedly believe in and truly understand the teachings of Jesus.


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Take the fraudulent obama birth certificate.”

Still not a fraud and no matter how many times you say it will never make it a fraud.

“Dozens of qualified examiners have all declared it fraudulent.”

Nope. As I pointed out it is impossible to authentic a document, painting, or anything else by looking at a PDF file downloaded on the internet.

“It is not fine, it is fraudulent.”

Nope –you’re saying it will never make it so.

”Re-read your worthless birtherville piece and you will see the uselessness of the info in it. It proves nothing.”

And yet you have refused – although you said you would – to go through it item by item and prove each is incorrect. Why is that?

”Ted Cruz's father was never a communist. That is simply FACT.”

What is a fact is that Canada (aka Rafael) Ted’s father was born in Cuba and using your logic that makes him a Communist! And that is a FACT!

Canada (aka Rafael) Ted is also an opportunistic liar who cot us $24 billion dollars for utter nonsense while shoving over a million dollars in his pockets. Why do you constantly defend these losers?


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

Mr. Moore I am respectfully asking that you NO longer refer to me as a "Bigot", that is In Fact a false statement on your part. I have never referred to by anything disgusting, we can agree to disagree without such!

I only had that book for short time--Anytime a text book in the hands of My grandchildren contains a prayer to a False Prophet That Concerns Me! Just as when my granddaughter who was in confirmation classes at St. John's United Methodist Church, Yes in Kingman, ended up being given the book Muslim Islam Sharia by local Dr. Saleem.
People need to come out of denial mode.


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: On behalf of the butchered, the refugees, the dhimmis.....

How about a school textbook which presents Islam as it really is - the context in which Christians are being driven from their countries and slaughtered (by some estimates, in the millions), Europe's cities rocked with Muslim agitation and crime, and where Christians are allowed to live in Muslim countries, they are reduced to dhimmi (2nd class) status. After these facts are thoroughly and graphically stated, then Islam's lies - I mean, beliefs - can be thrown in, as well.

Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“OKAY, in effort to keep my integrity intact, I called KAOL admin. office this morning.”

And yet you are still unable to give us the full title of the book, the authors, the publisher or the ISBN. Integrity? Don’t make me laugh.

In looking at textbooks with the title “World History” the only thing found is a book in it’s 7th printing dating back to sometime in the 1980s, making your line, “…we NOW under this President have books in our schools embracing Islam????” is – as always - pure garbage! Why do you do that?

“Only four states have rejected the program(intelligent on their part)!”

Actually the kids in those four states will turn out dumber than a box of Palin’s because they will not meet the minimum educational standards of the rest of the kids in our country endangering their ability to move on into higher education.

“…it was done and under handedly.”

Nope, as we’ve become used to, total falsehood.

”It's up to parents to push back…”

Yes, it is – against nattering religious bigots who want to interfere in their lives.


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Nikk B:

Don't have time here but you are wrong about islam. They gave us basically NOTHING. I will detail it all for you when I have a minute.

The Old Testament violence was the people's choice as they turned from God. It is actually a book of love if you understand it. As they continually made false idols, turned from God, ignored all his blessings, became sinful beyond belief, He gave them chance after chance after chance after chance and kept on loving them in spite of their sins.

He repeatedly "gathered Israel under his wing.." in spite of their disbelief, going so far as to become a man like them, die on a cross for our sins in our place. Remember, God's original plan was a Garden of Eden and complete peace. We took care of that very quickly. Called free choice, we aren't made robots.

Would a God of hate have created this beautiful universe for us?


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Bob Moore:

I see you have fallen into the obama mode of simply declaring something so and it is so. Like the not voted in Dream Act for instance. Obama simply throws out orders, pretending it was voted in, orders illegals to not be deported, etc. FORGET THE LAW.

I'm sorry but it does not work to simply state something with no proof as you do daily.

Take the fraudulent obama birth certificate. Saying it isn't proves NOTHING. Dozens of qualified examiners have all declared it fraudulent. You simply ignore the truth (like the Dream Act NOT being voted in) and consistently declare it fine. It is not fine, it is fraudulent.

Re-read your worthless birtherville piece and you will see the uselessness of the info in it. It proves nothing.

Ted Cruz's father was never a communist. That is simply FACT.


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

OKAY, in effort to keep my integrity intact, I called KAOL admin. office this morning.
Talked to Mr. Lillis, he was unaware of the World History book but, assured me he will look at it and Mr. Martin is the principle at KAOL High School whom I'm sure he will be talking to.
The Federal Dept. of Education is holding the purse strings of school districts all over this country-therefore you the "Common Core" agenda pushed and the states held hostage if they push back.
Only four states have rejected the program(intelligent on their part)!
I would never have voted for this program myself but, it was done and under handedly.
It's up to parents to push back and all who taxpayers who support public schools and charter schools!


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“POINT BEING, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE BEING INDOCTRINATED in OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION SCHOOLS!! AND ISLAM IS BEING UNDUTIFULLY BEING GLORIFIED!!!”

Still wrong and always will be despite your religious bigotry.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if the KDM stopped posting any comment filled with religious claptrap?



Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

Nikk B, don't have ISBN for you, suggest you contact KAOL!!!
I actually submitted my letter to Miner first part of November-Surprised to see it finally printed.
Like a lot of things in my life I stumbled upon this book through my granddaughter.
I am glad for the attention it has received!
My problem is not with fact of any one Muslim but, The fact it glorifies ISLAM and includes the printed PRAYER to ALAH!!
Everyone should remember Obama's declaration, "We are not and will Never be at war with Islam"!
Does it not worry Americans that we have been in a war with Islamist for TEN years now, and we NOW under this President have books in our schools embracing Islam????
I will call KAOL myself but, suggest some of you READ ALL My POST on this matter and DO some INDEPENTENT RESEARCH as well!!!!


Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

Circumcision of infant males is not only Jewish it is also practiced by Christians of all faiths! See that is the great thing about Christianity, there are all denominations of faith and none go around blowing others up or beheading one another, unlike Islam.
Circumcision of male infants is done for very different reasons than is Islam FGM practiced.
POINT BEING, OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE BEING INDOCTRINATED in OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION SCHOOLS!! AND ISLAM IS BEING UNDUTIFULLY BEING GLORIFIED!!!


Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: Nikk B

It's a known fact that Arabs gave the world the concept of zero and algebra, as well as trigonometry.

An Arab person discussed the theory that the earth rotates on it's axis 6 centuries before Galileo.

Arabs were forerunners in medicine, including a medical encyclopedist in the ninth century whose works were the authority in Europe until the 1500s.

Most of these works were done to glorify Islam, just like most scientific and artistic advances in Europe were completed and claimed by the church.

My point here is that while I completely agree that Islam as it is written in the Quran is NOT a "peaceful" religion, just like the Old Testament in the bible is NOT a peaceful religion.

But to NOT teach facts about a culture simply because the person involved is a Muslim is discriminatory and should be eschewed by every intelligent person.

If the book goes into comparative religion, I see a problem. That should be a college level course. But if it is merely discussing the contributions of the Arabs (Muslim or not) to world civilization, I see no issue here but bigotry.And Amaryllis, please provide the ISBN of the book.


Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Mohave county has become a magnet for meth addicts, social misfits who have such crazy ideas as a black man won presidency in a 50 some odd year conspiracy and is really from Kenya and is a secret Muslim, terrorist plant! Then add to this them Looney tunes who see black government helicopters hovering over their houses and its a sad state of affairs when one considers some of these folks actually hold positions of trust and power in Mohave County!

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

Okay, as long as we're talking female mutilations in this country by Muslims, what about the Jewish custom of circumcision? Some old Rabbi used to come into the home and circumcize baby boys. Yeah, that's so much better. Different religions have different rituals. Live with it. Just think of some of the rituals written of in the Bible - some are truly barbaric. The difference between Christians and Muslims is that Muslims continue to follow the words of the Quran, Christians no longer live by the Bible, they just pretend they believe in it so they can act holier-than-thou.
Their words on here prove that they don't have a clue about compassion, forgiveness, or anything else the Bible supposedly teaches.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

I didn't write down the publisher etc.--if you care go to the KAOL High School and to see it and read for yourself.
Was hoping the org. letter would get the attention of parents at KAOL.
It is the Common Core program sold by the same LIES as ACA, Benghazi, IRS and all the others out of DC and current administration! Money for the schools is a big part of it all.
The person who stands and calls others hostage takers, extortionist and so on is the very essence of what he accuses others of.
Our nation is in trouble Especially our youth!

Become a Christian? on your knees, confess your sins with true repentance, ask Jesus into your heart and for His forgiveness.
The New Testament created a New Covenant by God coming into the world through Jesus as man. It doesn't diminish in any way what is sin but does assure judgment and punishment by God if one doesn't accept Jesus and remains in sin.
Everyone has a soul that does not die and only two choices where to go, Heaven with God or Hell with the evil of the world.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Uncle Anson

The simple fact, AN, is that you are not a Christian. Period. You, my nephew are incorrect for there is a Hell and there is a Heaven. Christianity is not a club. I am sorry that you feel that way. As I stated before, I will be more than happy to educate you on Christianity without spewing utter nonsense as you say. I cannot make you educated about Christianity any more than I can educated you in anything for which you have hardened your heart. The decision to become educated you must make in the same way as you and you alone, can accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. See...no club...it is between you and Him.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: the 1st Book of Lewis Carroll chapter 2, verses 12-14

George Bush Jr. has been appointed head of Israel's Jews for Jesus movement. That must mean, as Linda Athens stated, that George Bush is the greatest Christian America has ever known. I forgot - is "Through The Looking Glass" part of the Old Testament, or the New Testament?

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

"the text is simply titled "World History"."

Can't even provide the publishers name or edition number? None of the reports I can find even give a link to the terrible book. Mostly they just re-hash the same statements over and over.

Starting to sound more and more like an internet/e-mail myth.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Amaryllis is right.

In fact, not a single young shooter has been a right winger so you don't hear much about that, They have all been on the left except a few that were simply mentally ill and weren't political at all.

It is definitely affecting young people when our POTUS and lib teachers consistenly teach socialism - that it's unfair some are rich and others are not.

Alan Colmes daily goes into it on his radio show. He just cannot understand that in a free market society, you can go as far as you choose to go with hard work and the sweat of your own brow....if the leader allows that freedom.

This one is not. He is strangling free enterprise with the most amount of EPA regs ever and other outlandish laws that are stifling us.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

MC:

GW not only was NOT a deist, was one of the most devout Christians in our history.

During the terrible Valley Forge winter, he often went to the woods alone, sunk his knees in the freezing snow and prayed quietly for long periods for his men. Several witnessed, heard him and wrote of it.

Indians recognized him as designated from above as a special person. Many miracles occured with him being shot at, never hit.

His own words show his complete belief and dependence on God. NO Founders were deists. In the 1920's, two small men(Woodward and Beard) with pens in hand, began the attacks on GW, Jefferson and others so the revision is of recent history.

Dozens who knew him wrote of him at his death:

JOHN QUINCY ADAMS: His character will remain to all ages a model of human virtue, untarnished w/a single vice.

HENRY LEE: Maj-Gen'l under GW. The purity of his private character gave effulgence to his public virtue.

GW himself writing the Delaware Indian chiefs 6-12-1779 -"..you do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ..". No deist here.



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