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12/17/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Too much trash service

We're brand-new in town, only about two months, so I don't know the politics and history behind some of the things the city does, but I'm curious why the city of Kingman provides twice weekly residential trash pickup service. We've lived in five states and numerous cities and have never seen this before. Wouldn't it be a substantial savings to reduce it to once a week?

While I realize some businesses need more service, with the huge cans we all use we can't imagine why residential service couldn't be once a week. I would think this would substantially reduce labor costs, which is usually the biggest expense in providing any service. I'm sure the city is always looking for ways to save so they don't need to raise taxes.

If there's a good reason for doing twice a week, I'll just keep quiet about it.

Dave Berry

Kingman




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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, December 24, 2013
Article comment by: Molon Labe

"In fact, the griminess of this city is unsightly and second in annoyance only to the large numbers of unsavory looking characters with...handguns. Tsk tsk."

Bob M, if you don't like to see legally armed citizens, I invite you to move to Southern California where they share your liberal notions. In fact I invite anyone to move if they don't like the way we do things in Arizona. I'm feeling too polite to say what I really feel about out of towners telling us what is or isn't good or bad. Just accept it or move on.

This kind of thing really irks me when people come from somewhere else and then try to make their new home like their old home. If it was so great then just go back home. Canada is well known for its draconian gun laws. This is as bad as NYC banning e-cigarettes. It has nothing to do with health. The nanny-brained busy bodies just don't want to see it.

If you are a snowbird you might want to try Lake Havasu City or SoCal next year. We wouldn't want you to feel all threatened and imposed upon and what kind of man says tsk tsk?


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Joe Schmo

@Nay Mama:

It is my understanding is that the state law mandating twice a week pick up only applies to municipalities. I'm not aware of such a law in unincorporated county areas. Thus you have to rely on private companies or haul your own trash in the County. Personally, I believe every County resident such be required to have trash service. It would greatly cut down on the problem of illegal dumping in our desert.


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Bob McKenzie

I don't understand it either. I retired with a generous pension from my UAW job in Canada and moved here to get away from the cold.

My city sure was a lot cleaner than Kingman and we only had our refuse picked up once per week.

In fact, the griminess of this city is unsightly and second in annoyance only to the large numbers of unsavory looking characters with...handguns. Tsk tsk.

Mon Dieu!


Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013
Article comment by: Thai Mai Shu

"In the state of Arizona, by law you have to pick up trash twice per week," states Jennifer Means, recycling and special project coordinator for the city of Mesa. "We had to petition the state to get a variance to that law that said we could do once-a-week recycling, once-a-week trash.

So for all you smart guys out there that DOUBT there is a law in the books.....here is proof of its existence.

I am thinking it is a specific rule geared toward municipal government and not private trash service.


Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: @ A & W A & w

Some of us are sharp enough (from lack or drug use) to quickly count receptacles as we enter our car on the way to work.

Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: desert dweller

I can't believe it! what is this B.S....wait until summer, weeds, bushes trimming, trees trimming...you will be damned happy with 2 times a week pickup, unless of course you are a lazy s.o.b. that doesn' pickup ANYTHING! Get a life, is this the best you can gripe about?

Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: Nay Mama

I'm not getting something here. It has been said in a couple of comments about the state having a law saying twice a week pick up, then why do the people, like me, that don't live in the actually city of Kingman, only get offered once a week trash pick up by the company that services north of Kingman in the county area?
Is this business breaking the law every week?
And when it rains and the trash truck can't get to our neighbors trash can from huge puddles on our dirt road, they use my property, without asking if they could, to get my neighbors trash. Isn't this considered trespassing? We have signs up that say no trespassing. Is it time for me to call the Sheriff's office? Oh, yeah, that's a whole other problem.


Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013
Article comment by: justanobody sr

can someone show the "law" that says trash pickup is required twice a week?
most other cities DO NOT have twice a week trash pickup, are they in violation of the law?
I doubt it!
more old wives tales?


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

For once, I agree with Rick O'shea. The summer can quickly turn garbage into maggots, flies, and attract cockroaches. Personally, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near that dumpster during the summer months with only once a week pickup.

Along my block, houses on both sides of the alley share several large dumpsters that are in the alley. And every Monday and Thursday, those dumpsters are overflowing. If we had once a week pickup, there would be garbage spewed all over the alley from overflowing dumpsters. I am very grateful for twice a week pickup.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Harris

Mr. Berry, I have lived here many, many years and have heard the reasons - summer heat, cuts down on litter, routes and driver efficiency, etc.. However, I also can't understand this practice.

The reason it cuts litter down isn't justified. Many living outside the city limits see paying a company for this service is not necessary. I know of a gentleman who lives in Lazy YU in a huge house. He packs the trunk of his Lexus with his trash when coming into town. Then he relies on the generousity of city folks by playing Santa Claus with the bags. Many don't even bother with this. They just dump them in empty lots. Lazy, inconsiderate slobs will not change no matter how often trash is picked up.

One more thing, Mr Berry, welcome. And please don't think the vicious comments like those from Rick O'Shea reflect your new neighbors.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Chill Out

Rick O'Shea, I think you're wound a little too tight. Why don't you calm down and carefully read what the poster said. They are new to town and are just curious.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Joe Schmo

The City of Kingman, like all other Arizona municipalities, is required to pick up trash twice a week by the State of Arizona. They can get a waiver to provide once a week trash service if they were to provide a curbside recycling service once a week. Since the city provides recycling bins around town, but not curbside recycling pick up, they must still provide twice a week trash pick up.

Hopefully this clears up the mystery. And welcome to Kingman.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: A&W A&w

Someone must have a boring life if all they have to do is count how many trash cans are out on trash pick-up days.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Patty Couch

Welcome to home town politics....If the state requires twice weekly trash pick up, then they could make one of the days for the p/u of recycling refuse. Saving all of us driving to centers and doing it ourselves while the trash trucks drive around half empty. It would help to promote recyling as well. We are so very behind the times.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Richard Kale

I have been told (dont know if true or not, but sounds good), twice pick up a week cuts down on the truck run back and forth to the land fill.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: lucy logsdon

I've lived here for 20 years and am still asking that question?

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

we appear to get by quite well with once a week service in lake Havasu City.

Now for the usual suspects who don't like paying taxes telling you why they MUST have twice a week service.


Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Matty Ice

I agree...splain it to me Lucy?

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Welcom to kingman

The city is complying with a state law, that is what we are told every time this is mentioned. The collection truck just went by my home and I counted 4 of 25 homes had a can out. This is just the tip of the iceberg mr. berry, welcome to kingman and get ready to enjoy an endless pitcher of kool aid.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Jack BeQuick

For me being single, they could pick it up once a month and it would meet my needs.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Gregory Call

I used to think like you Mr. Berry, and then I realized that the one governmental department that actually gives us bang for our buck is the Sanitation Department, and it shouldn't be changed. It should actually be emulated by all the other departments. Great service at a reasonable price. Those people at the sanitation department bust their humps for our convenience. Kudos to their fearless leader Mr.Tapia and his crews. Many of us fill our garbage cans to the brim almost every time. If more people in town would likewise take advantage of their offerings, we might be a bit cleaner! When Christmas is over, and you have your trash can filled with all the gift wrappings and such, thank your lucky stars that the Sanitation Department will be there soon. When your neighbor has loads of yard clippings to get rid of, be grateful he doesn’t burn it on a windy day since the Sanitation Department will shortly haul it away. Be glad that seven whole days doesn't have to pass before the next pick-up when you put something smelly into your bin, because the Sanitation department will be there shortly with a smile on their face.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: I live in Mohave County

Good Point Dave, I've often woundered that myself. I've lived in other areas too & they also seem to have only once a week pickup. I currently live in the County of Mohave & I pay for trash pickup and it's only once a week. Soooo the question seems legit as to why doesn't the City go with only once a week too?? BTW "IF" there is some crazy law that says the City has to do twice a week why not vote to have that changed?? Services & manpower would be reduced, thus usually a huge savings comes along with it. It's not Rocket Science, just Simply Math!!

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Rick O'Shea

It never fails, people move here and start crap, let me guess, your from California and didn't want to ask the city but you wanted to start some controversy so you wrote to the paper. The 2 trash pickup (as it was explained to me by the city) was started a long time ago and just as in Nevada, it was started because the summer heat causes some bad smells, creates a health hazard and the smell tends to attract wildlife to trash cans.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: just a fact

Once a week would be great for me.

Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013
Article comment by: Ben Franklin

You may not have enough trash to warrant twice a week pick ups, but others do. Eliminating twice a week pick ups would only result in more trash being illegally dumped in the desert. There is all ready too much trash in the desert adjacent to the city...just take a ride out on Airway where it turns into a dirt road East of White Cliffs middle school and you will see tons of trash.

Just don't put you can out unless it is full, that will save the truck driver from stopping at your house and speed up his route.




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