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11/10/2011 6:00:00 AM
Obama dreams of Euromerica
Floyd and Mary Beth Brown
National Columnists

Barack Obama is rarely at the White House. He prefers to attempt to govern the USA from his flying fortress, Air Force One.

Today he is in Cannes, France to meet with the political glittery of the G 20. He feels at home in Europe. His popularity is higher in Europe. They like his plan for socialized medicine in Europe. They like his bank bailouts in Europe. This is all understandable, since his expressed desire is to make American "more like Europe."

What he likes about the dysfunctional allies we have in Europe is hard to understand. They have had their much touted "European Union" (EU) brought to its knees by the over spending of one of its smallest members. Can you imagine if the United States was nearing dissolution because of overspending in Rhode Island?

The original agreements made by Greece to enter the EU called for a limit to the deficit spending. Greece complied by sending reports to the European Commission that demonstrated they were making progress and living within their means. Whoops, now we learn the reports were phonier than a three dollar bill, and surprise, the socialist government lied.

By nearly all measures, living in the United States even under Obama is better than living in Europe. All of the elements of Reagan' misery index are higher in Europe. Unemployment is higher in Europe. Inflation is higher in Europe. Interest rates are higher in Europe. Less people own homes in Europe. Less people own cars in Europe. Commodities and food cost more in Europe. Taxes are higher in Europe.

Bottom line, people in Europe are poorer than they are in the United States.

No wonder Obama loves Europe. He wants to raise America's taxes. He wants to raise America's energy prices. He wants more regulations in America on so-called greenhouse gases like they have in Europe. He wants to shrink our cars like Europe. He wants to change our toilets and light bulbs and design them like those used in Europe.

We like to visit Europe, but we always kiss the ground when we return to the wonderful USA.

Seriously though, the economic crisis we currently face has been exacerbated by Obama choosing to adopt European solutions to America's problems. Americans are a dynamic people. We are composed of the descendants of people that largely left Europe and other continents for the freedom of America. They want to shake the bondage of big government monarchies in Europe for the democratic unknown of America.

On this wild continent they carved a marvelous home, unrivaled around the globe. Only an idiot would want to trade in this heritage for the porridge of our poorer cousins in Europe.

America solves problems from the bottom up. We don't solve them in Washington DC. We solve them in Peoria, Orlando, Denver, Twin Falls and even in Los Angeles. People solve their own problems in the United States working hand in hand with family, neighbors and the local boy scouts.

This weekend in Cannes they want to solve the debt problem. Too much debt is owed by too many European Countries that can't pay those debts. The European Union solution is a new tax. This time they want to tax financial transactions. Think of it as the $5.00 ATM Card fee on a global scale. Bank of America dumped their plan for the fee when they realized they would lose customers. Let's hope Obama doesn't endorse and import this new tax to America.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, January 1, 2012
Article comment by: Capt. Nice

Anson evidently you think that if you put enough words together people will take it as fact and that you must be very smart becuase you can put a lot of words together.
You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time but you sure can't fool me....your nothing but a left wing blow hard!


Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ Linda Athens

[Deleted].

About the Kansas Test – it DOES NOT state “right at the top” it is for grade 8 students. [Deleted] Here is EXACTLY how the document reads:
“Examination Graduation Questions – of Saline County, Kansas – April 13, 1895 – J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent – Examinations at Salina, Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp). NOTICE it says NOTHING about grade 8! Next the document states it is to be administered orally for “applicants.” I have never in my life heard of a child matriculating from grade 8 to high school being described as an applicant. You are wrong, Linda, admit the truth for once.

Again as to the birth certificate. How do I know it’s real? Because it has been certified (both the B/C/ and Certificate of Live Birth) by the State of Hawaii which trumps any birther loon fool that claims to be an “expert.” And I notice you ALWAYS run from any mention of the two Hawaiian newspapers that published his birth announcement – explain why those newspapers would have published those announcements within a week of his birth.

As to the Social Security crap. [Deleted]. This amazingly ignorant fantasy about President Barack Obama having used a Social Security number issued to a French immigrant named Jean Paul Ludwig, born in 1890, has been debunked hundreds of times. The entire lie can be verified through the Social Security Death Index, a database of death records created from the United States Social Security Administration's Death Master File Extract. The Social Security Administration was in fact informed of Ludwig's death, and the Social Security number assigned to him was not, as claimed, the same as that assigned to Barack Obama (042-68-4425), but rather a completely different number (045-26-8722). Ludwig also didn't pass away until 1981, by which time Barack Obama had long since been assigned a Social Security number of his own. The premise of this claim is also flawed as Barack Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States, and thus there would have been no reason for Obama to appropriate someone else's Social Security number. Likewise, the ignorant claim that Social Security numbers beginning with 042 are "reserved for Connecticut residents" is false. As reported by the Social Security Administration, the area number portion of a SSN (first three numbers) does not (and never has) corresponded to the state in which an applicant was born or resides - The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1973, cards were issued in Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the office code in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be in the area where the applicant lived or applied. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, neither prior to 1973, nor since.


Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011
Article comment by: Linda Athens

NA: "His certificate of live birth is fact" you stated. WHAT FACT??? PLEASE LIST WHAT FACT YOU ARE REFERRING TO!

Two dozen experts have declared it a fraud. I have not seen or heard of one single expert who has declared it otherwise.

Deal with it!!

You have not responded to the committee that oversees vetting those running for office have declared Obama was never vetted.

Your response to that??

And this: A private investigation reveals that the Social Security Number being used by Barack Obama does not pass a check with E-Verify, the electronic system the U.S. Citizenship and Immigrations Services of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has created to verify whether or not prospective employees have the required authorization to work legally in the United States.

How do you explain this? You can't!


Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011
Article comment by: Linda Athens

AN:

The Kansas test says right at the top of the test it is for 8th Grade students. The Superintendent that wrote the test and to whom the test is attributed to hand wrote parts of the test.

HIS GRANDCHILDREN HAVE THOSE COPIES THEY FOUND IN HIS THINGS!!! HANDWRITTEN - THE TEST - IN HIS OWN HANDWRITING! This is now what, about THREE TIMES I HAVE POSTED THIS. And the Superintendant WROTE that it was for 8th grade students. And you ABSOLUTELY IGNORE IT!!

You are unbelievable!! Credibility - ABSOLUTELY NONE!!!!


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ That’s Not Debunking

I am still confused as to why my citing actual documents and birth announcements in two newspapers (information dating back five decades) somehow clouds the issue of accuracy when compared to something posted by God knows who on the internet. I feel that citing the state records and newspapers meets the concept of “sourcing” my information and thereby moves it from the standpoint of being “my opinion.”

Thank you for the input and I can only assume we will have to agree to disagree.


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: That's not Debunking

@ Anson's Nephew --

"What makes me curious is why you decided to take the stance that, “These three facts are attested to by state records and the publishing of his birth announcement in two Honolulu newspapers,” is actually “ …lies attested to by numerous web sites across the internet.” It would seem to me that actual documents from the state of Hawaii and actual newspaper articles would trump wild Right Wing Loon Birther crap posted on the internet."

I think you missed my point. I mentioned what you said, then put the same statement in an opposing-view context, and asked if that would be any different, because, like your original statement, there were no sources given.

The internet can be more intellectually rigid than any newspaper in the country. It depends entirely on where you go. Again, it depends on the source.

I don't mean to get between you and Linda. That's a relationship that goes back quite a while. (No, I'm not new here.) I was just thinking that providing a source for your information might make it more than just your opinion.

But that's just my opinion.

I'll stay out of it from now on.


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ That’s not debunking

What is obvious from your post is that you are new here – so welcome. Over the past year I have posted the information numerous times – each time Linda Athens shows up with her birther loon nonsense – and now I am being taken to task for not being explicit enough, regardless of the explicitness of my previous posts? What makes me curious is why you decided to take the stance that, “These three facts are attested to by state records and the publishing of his birth announcement in two Honolulu newspapers,” is actually “ …lies attested to by numerous web sites across the internet.” It would seem to me that actual documents from the state of Hawaii and actual newspaper articles would trump wild Right Wing Loon Birther crap posted on the internet.

Another example is Linda’s assertion that the Kansas test she has found referenced all over the internet was designed for grade 8 students to take prior to their matriculation to high school. She spews this incessantly while ignoring the actual document that says nothing about grade 8 students and was obviously designed for teacher applicants.

So it is not an “I said so,” it is a series of facts proven by actual documents and newspaper birth announcements. However, if people are willing to submit that anything posted on the internet is more accurate they have the right to their delusions - but they are still incorrect.


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

I posted here yesterday an actual website that has a picture of the actual test. Yet, for some reason, you did not look at it? Is it because the actual pictures prove you wrong? Get over it, you lost another one.


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ Linda Athens

I provided the evidence showing both Corsi and Barton are liars. Direct quotes taking from their books and refuted by actual facts. And yet you still defend these - and other equally ignorant - clowns.

I am curious as to how you can read a DIRECT quote from Corsi, as an example, and then be shown a DIRECT quote from Obama's book that discredits what Corsi said and accuse me of being disingenuous in posting the facts. The truth is always the truth Linda, no matter how much you discount it, twist it or deny it. The truth stands out always. You demanded to know my source for Corsi’s lies, how about HIS book compared to what is written in Obama’s book?

Defending liars – Corsi, Barton, WND, Malkin, Lidday, Beck, et al – only shows that your hatred for the president knows no bounds. [Deleted].

I find if fascinating that you consider ANYONE who disproves Barton’s statement is an atheist. You need to understand that simply because someone doesn’t buy into Barton’s crap does not make them an atheist. You have accused me many, many times of being an atheist based on my not being a Christian. You do know that is wrong, don’t you? And as I have pointed out using Wallbuliders as source is also bogus because Wallbuilders is Barton’s own organization that he uses to self-publish his trash because no real publisher would have anything to do with it.

And again you refuse to admit you are wrong on the Kansas test issue. I do not care how many sources you post from, the ACTUAL DOCUMENT does not state anywhere that the test is for grade 8 students and must be passed for a grade 8 student to matriculate to high school. Why do you keep denying what the actual document says, or in this case does not say?


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: That's not Debunking

@ Anson's Nephew --

I'm not taking a position one way or the other on the birther issue. I just want to point out something that you ought to keep in mind when "debunking" information.

You said this:

"As to Obama’s birth. Let’s look at the facts - 1) He was born in Hawaii – fact, 2) His certificate of Live Birth is accurate – fact, 3) His birth certificate is accurate – fact. These three facts are attested to by state records and the publishing of his birth announcement in two Honolulu newspapers."

One could just as easily say this:

As to Obama’s birth. Let’s look at the lies - 1) He was born in Hawaii – lie, 2) His certificate of Live Birth is accurate – lie, 3) His birth certificate is accurate – lie. These three lies are attested to by numerous web sites across the internet.

And it would carry exactly the same weight as what you said.

Why? Because neither statement gives a legitimate source for reference, only an 'I said so'.

You claim in other posts to be a writer, broadcaster, etc., but when you say things such as the above, without including specific references which Linda, or anybody else, could check out, you damage your credibility.

Again, not saying you're right or wrong, or that Linda's right or wrong. Just saying if you want to put weight behind your statements, reference them.


Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011
Article comment by: Linda Athens

AN:

Corsi's lies? No, what I DO WANT is your SOURCE? I will be waiting.

I am going to guess you have neither read Obama's two books nor Jerome Corsi's book on the birth certificate? How about the several hundred documentations sourcing his information?

And you don't mean you have many more of the lies to print or that I think you won't catch me.

No, what you really mean is you have found another of your left wing loon sites to copy from and you never do any independent research, read the books yourself so you know what they actually say, etc.

I know because of what you have said about David Barton. Absolute LIES but the Miner never printed my posts pointing them out. I not only have David's books, tapes and videos, I have read his main book until it has fallen apart and unfortunately, it is the one he wrote a note on to me.

The lies you copied from atheists out to destroy David are so blatant, David completely and totally disproved them with facts. You could go to Wallbuilders.com and see for yourself.

What part of the Superintendent of the Kansas schools handwritten notes his grandchildren have in their possession where he hand wrote out the test in his own handwriting do you not understand? You are beyond ridiculous, a hypocrite and wouldn't know truth, fact or research if it hit you in the face.


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

Why do you persist in spreading the misinformation? The B/C is legit, get over it. The SS number lie has been debunked countless times, and yet you still try to spread the falsehoods.


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Honestly, Linda? Back with the same old retreaded lies? I have taken you to task many times and again in another thread right now about Jerome Corsi being a liar and now I have to go back and debunk more of the same stuff you have posted for months now. Sol let’s get started and address you latest round of repeated lies.
Let’s start with the $2 million lie and where it came from. While the $2 million figure has now been invoked thousands of times by the intellectually challenged, it originated on WorldNetDaily, a right-wing loon website that conducts unreliable reporting on a variety of conspiracy theories. Specifically, WND's Chelsea Schilling wrote a series of articles on the legal bills in 2009. According to the WND articles, the Obama campaign paid $1.7 million in fees to the law firm Perkins Coie between October 2008 and October 2009. Perkins Coie's Bob Bauer represented Obama in one birther lawsuit that WND wrote about, until is disappeared. In 2009, Bauer wrote an attorney who brought a case questioning Obama's eligibility to be president. Bauer advised the attorney the case was frivolous and asked him to stop pursuing it. The case is called Hollister v. Soetoro -- with Soetoro referring to the name President Obama supposedly used as a child in Indonesia. The case was appealed to the Supreme Court, which turned it down on the basis of having no merit. According to the liars at WND because Perkins Coie worked on a birther suit, and because the Obama campaign paid Perkins Coie $1.7 million, therefore the campaign paid $1.7 million fighting birther suits. That's an obvious logical fallacy. Legal costs for presidential campaigns always balloon following Election Day as the organizations face compliance issues and sometimes court cases stemming from the campaign season.
Next a few facts about the stupid claim regarding Obama’s Social Security number. This amazingly ignorant fantasy about President Barack Obama's having used a Social Security number issued to a French immigrant named Jean Paul Ludwig, born in 1890, has been debunked hundreds of times. The entire lie can be verified through the Social Security Death Index, a database of death records created from the United States Social Security Administration's Death Master File Extract. The Social Security Administration was in fact informed of Ludwig's death, and the Social Security number assigned to him was not, as claimed, the same as that assigned to Barack Obama (042-68-4425), but rather a completely different number (045-26-8722). Ludwig also didn't pass away until 1981, by which time Barack Obama had long since been assigned a Social Security number of his own. The premise of this claim is also flawed as Barack Obama is a natural born citizen of the United States, and thus there would have been no reason for Obama to appropriate someone else's Social Security number. Likewise, the ignorant claim that Social Security numbers beginning with 042 are "reserved for Connecticut residents" is false. As reported by the Social Security Administration, the area number portion of a SSN (first three numbers) does not (and never has) corresponded to the state in which an applicant was born or resides - The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1973, cards were issued in Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the office code in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be in the area where the applicant lived or applied. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, neither prior to 1973, nor since.
As to Obama’s birth. Let’s look at the facts - 1) He was born in Hawaii – fact, 2) His certificate of Live Birth is accurate – fact, 3) His birth certificate is accurate – fact. These three facts are attested to by state records and the publishing of his birth announcement in two Honolulu newspapers. And now for more debunking – There is no requirement (in law or constitution) that a natural born United States Citizens parent must both be natural born U. S. citizens. The fact that Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen has no bearing on the Presidents eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States. Other ignorant crap that has been tossed around allude to Obama attending school Indonesia and that only Indonesian citizens could attend school there in the 1960s-70s. That is just another lie. There are also stupid people who somehow believe Obama renounced his citizenship as a child in Indonesia – it is impossible for a child to renounce his or her citizenship. Following that was the equally ignorant comment about his not asking to be naturalized upon his return to the United States (Hawaii). Again, as a natural born citizen there would be no need for him to ever apply for citizenship.
So for probably the fifth time I have debunked the same old tired lies from Linda. Is there any possibility this woman will ever stop with her foolish nonsense?


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Same Old Thing:

Please post on here what the Hawaiian authorities said about O's BC?

You do recall the new Governor I believe it was was going to retrieve it to settle things, and suddenly went silent. He was unable to find a BC for Obama in Hawaii.

We believe the fraudulent one he submitted, he had someone take to Hawaii and put in the vault. Remember, he SENT someone to Hawaii a week before Corsi's book about it came out to deflect the power of the book. You HAVE read it so you know all the arguments I assume. Always good to get the facts first.

What do you think of all of Corsi's WELL DOCUMENTED arguments? What are your thoughts on Orly Taitz's arguments"

What is your reaction to Obama using a Social Security number that was issued to a person who is now dead and is from CT where he never lived? Give me your thoughts on how that could have happened please.

What is your thinking on the two million dollars out of his own pocket (so we hope) that Obama used to keep every document, transcripts, writings as an attorney, college papers, etc sealed so noone could find any information on him?

What are your thoughts about him saying his administration would be the most transparent in U. S. history and then he went ahead and sealed all his own documents.

What do you think about the oversight committee that is in the know about who got vetted actually stating Obama was never vetted to run for President to see if he was eligible.

That is an ENORMOUS fact!! He was NOT vetted. Kind of puts to rest all those on the left who say, well, he ran for Senator and President both so OF COURSE he was vetted. The fact is from those who do it...he WAS NOT!.

Does that bother you to the point you now think everything about him should be put out in the open so we can all take a look? After all, if all is well with his birth, etc, why would he NOT want to put all his papers out? But he continues to keep all sealed.


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ Original Kingman Resident

No, SS is not currently in trouble [deleted]. Now, let’s consider a few of your points.

John McCain. [Deleted]. Let’s look at his tax free, 100% disability pension from the Navy. My contention is that if a man (any man) who claims he is in perfect healthy and could hike across the Grand Canyon while drawing a 100% military disability pension is either 1) Lying or 2) Should have the pension withdrawn. Do you understand that he said, while running for the presidency, that he could “hike across the Grand Canyon.” I will not get into your contention that he “earned” a military pension – that is not the case, it is not a military pension it is a disability pension. Now as to his drawing of SS. He is one of the major whiners about the program being a failure (a lie), in dire straits (a lie), and should be privatized (a stupid concept). My logic is that if he feels the program is in such trouble he should not be drawing from it, at a rate that would fund three average recipients of the program. It is more than obvious he does not actually need the money, as do millions of others. Yes, he paid into it and he has the right to draw on it, but why do it if you do not need to? I look to myself as an example. I am a wounded veteran who has access to the VA, but I do chose not to use the VA because I have insurance that has covered my needs over the years. So why should I add to the VA’s burden when I don’t need to? I feel that by my not using the VA there is another veteran who can use the system.

Your tired and much used argument about those drawing SS take out more than they put in is specious at best. SS is, in essence, an insurance program and as such some will benefit beyond their contributions and others will not. Consider auto insurance. You buy a vehicle for $48,000 and immediately insure it with an initial payment of $250. Four days later your vehicle is totaled by a drunk driver with no insurance. Now for the question – should you be allowed to have the vehicle replaced at $48,000 or should the insurance only be obligated to give you the $250 you paid? As to life expectancy, yes it has gone up – by an average of 2.6 years since 1940.

As to removing the earnings cap, I have no problem with increasing benefits right along with the elimination of the cap. Makes perfect sense to me because there is the dirty little secret that a lot of people die before they ever get to an age where they can draw on SS. And what does this mean, “the program would then become biased against the wealthy who are more apt to have investment income. Another example of a socialist scam.” Why would it be a scam to have every dollar received taxed at the same rate for everyone? Sounds like a fair tax to me. I pay 6.2% so why should someone like Limbaugh pay only .00013%?

As to abuses, well as they say “S” happens and efforts are always being made to catch the abusers and overall those efforts are successful.

And your right and need to heed your own pithy comment , “ Remember, when you keep your head buried in the sand you miss a lot.”


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: No Name No Name

Linda Athens: He does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.
Linda Athens: Yes, he does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.
Linda Athens: Yes, he does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.
Linda Athens: Yes, he does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.
Linda Athens: Yes, he does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.
Linda Athens: Yes, he does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.
Linda Athens: Yes, he does.
Anson's Nephew: No, he doesn't.

Sheesh.


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: J L

It's strange how pro-Obama people swallow his koolaid. It must be tasteless and bitter with all sugar and no nutritional value at all.

It's strange how pro-Obama folks think he's so wonderful but when faced with legitimate questions concerning his presidency and if they can give clear examples of the good he has done, they either do one of two things...put Republicans down or play the race card.

Can anyone explain ANY good points that he has done for the American people? Has it created jobs? (Companies are moving out of the United States and foreign companies are buying Unites States companies) Has it helped with health care? (because my health care rates are skyrocketing because of Obamacare) Has it helped with industry? (Because the regulations that are set by the EPA are so tight industries in this country are struggling to stay afloat)

Anything?

The protesters have it wrong, they need to protest the White House. The millionaire in office bailed out Wall Street. He hob nobs with the filthy rich. He does love Europe and their ways. He adores high taxes. All Democrats do. But believe me I'm not in love with the Republicans either. They don't do a whole hell of a lot to change Exxon/Chevron or Mobil to drop gas prices to help indutries out, like truckers. Drop the dang gas prices!



Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: Same Old Thing

@ LInda: "This is the ORIGINAL copy of the test, posted to the Internet circa 1995 by Kaz, after carefully verifying its factuality with Salina authorities. Thanks to all the many people who mirror it, helping spread the word."

Why is it you accept the terminology "original copy" for tests from Salinas authorities, but you do not accept it from Hawaiin authorities when they speak of birth certificates?


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: Original kingman Resident

@ Anson

Social Security is in trouble currently. The problems only get worse with each passing year as more baby boomers retire. It doesn't magically get to the 77% point in 2034. The time to fix the problem or reform the system is now, not when 33% of the payouts do not exist due to underfunding.

If John McCain Cain, to use your example, earned a military pension, and held a job in which he paid into SS he is entitled to both. He EARNED both.

If you think about the entire premise, SS is designed to fail the way it is currently set up. I relies on the contributions of today's workers to pay out the benefits of the current retirees. When you add up the total contributions of a worker at retirement age, even if adjusted for interest earnings over time, the average retiree will receive more than they paid in. The retirement age, at the program's inception in the 1930's was older than the average life expectancy. Over time, the avg life expectancy has increased, the SS program has been modified to pay out for disabilities of not only adult workers but also for children who have never contributed in to the system. There is no way the SS system can succeed in its current form.

If the way to fix SS is to get rid of the captain on income, then the ceiling on the amount of benefits paid out should be raised accordingly. Otherwise it amounts to another redistribution of money from the rich to the poor, which is a socialist scam.

Since you think that unearned income should also be included, the program would then become biased against the wealthy who are more apt to have investment income. Another example of a socialist scam.

If you choose to doubt that there is massive abuse of the SS system, there is nothing I can do about that. Research it yourself. I am not your research assistant.

Remember, when you keep your head buried in the sand you miss a lot.


Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

One has to love the eternal birther's delusions of grandeur, is it pure insanity, senility, or just plain lack of intelligence that drives one to believe one can fool the CIA, FBI, NSA, every government agency in america with false birth certificates, phony social security numbers and rise to be president, be black, be a secret muslim, run around with terrorist's, be a communist one day then a socialist the next, funny how these two ideologies hate one another, does he hate himself one day and then flips and hates the other side tomorrow? I do believe the tin foil hats in america are sad and entertaining at same time, hopefully their family will get them some help! I am begining to believe someone on this newspaper staff is humoring a relative/friend/spouse since certain people can get their crazy ideas posted over and over and some of us get ignored, wonder if the nationally media going back over the old letters to the editor might find this curioius as I do?:-)

Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ Linda Athens

Again, what part of “actual document” don’t you understand? The Kansas test (the actual document) does not – anywhere – suggest, imply or demand that the test be given to grade 8 students. I do not care about your “sources” – all 20 of them – they cannot stand up to the actual document. Why do you insist upon keeping up this farcical bunch of nonsense. You are wrong, it’s as simple as that and I will not allow you to try and convince the intellectually challenged of something that is not factual.


Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

This is really long, but hopefully will be printed in toto as are Linda's ponderous tomes.

All right, Linda, I guess it is time (once again) to educate you on Jerome [deleted] Corsi. When will you stop defending these liars? How many times must I post their crap? I will post just a few of the pages of lies told by Corsi – I actually have more than fifty pages of his claptrap, so if you would like to see more, just let me know.

LIE: “Nowhere in the autobiography does Obama disclose that his wife-to-be accompanied him to Africa on the 1992 trip.” REALITY: “After Our Engagement, I Took Michelle To Kenya…” Obama wrote in Dreams, “After our engagement, I took Michelle to Kenya to meet the other half of my family. She was an immediate success there as well, in part because the number of Luo words in her vocabulary very soon surpassed mine. We had a fine time in Alego, helping Auma on a film project of hers, listening to more of Granny’s stories, meeting relatives I’d missed the first time around.”

LIE: “Obama failed to discuss his father’s alcoholism and polygamy in his autobiography. Obama’s story of his father’s life is dense, presented in anything but a straightforward manner, often glorified or embellished so as to mask much of the harsh and, for Obama, probably painful truth.” REALITY: Obama wrote about his father’s drinking throughout “Dreams from My Father.” Obama writes Auma said, “At the time, I just saw that life at home became very difficult. The Old Man never spoke to Roy or myself except to scold us. He would come home very late, drunk, and I could hear him shouting at Ruth, telling her to cook him food. Ruth became very bitter at how the Old Man had changed…finally Roy just left. He just stopped coming home and started living with different people. So I was left alone with the Old Man. Sometimes I would stay up half the night, waiting to hear him come through the door, worrying that something terrible had happened. Then he would stagger in drunk and come into my room and wake me because he wanted company or something to eat. He would talk about how unhappy he was and how he had been betrayed. I would be so sleepy, I wouldn’t understand anything he was saying. Secretly, I began to wish that he would just stay out one night and never come back.”

LIE: “We find there is even uncertainty whether Stanley Ann and Obama Senior were ever married in a church. No marriage license for this first marriage surfaces in any of the now-growing volume of research being done...Yet even this remains murky.” REALITY: CORSI ADMITS ON THE SAME PAGE THAT OBAMA’S PARENTS HAD A LEGAL AMERICAN MARRIAGE. TIME also reported on Obama’s parents’ divorce Records. TIME reported, “On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama’s parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records.”

LIE: “Obama devotes the entire second chapter of his autobiography to his time in Indonesia, but remarkably, he makes no reference to Maya’s birth.” REALITY: OBAMA DID MAKE REFERENCE TO HIS SISTER’S BIRTH. Obama: “My Mother And Lolo Would Remain Cordial Through The Birth Of My Sister, Maya…” Obama wrote, “Such arguments were rare, though my mother and Lolo would remain cordial through the birth of my sister, Maya, through the separation and eventual divorce, up until the last time I saw Lolo, ten years later, when my mother helped him travel to Los Angeles to treat a liver ailment that would kill him at the age of fifty-one.”

LIE: “Obama did not dedicate “Dreams from My Father” to his mother, or to his father, Barack Senior, or to his Indonesian stepfather. Missing from the dedication are the grandparents who raised him in Hawaii, especially during the years his mother abandoned him to return to Indonesia to be with Lolo.” REALITY: OBAMA DID DEDICATE HIS BOOK TO HIS FAMILY Obama wrote that he owed “The Deepest Gratitude” And “Dedicated” his book to “My Mother, My Grandparents, My Siblings, Stretched Across Oceans And Continents.” “It is to my family, though – my mother, my grandparents, my siblings, stretched across oceans and continents -- that I owe the deepest gratitude and to whom I dedicated this book. Without their constant love and support, without their willingness to let me sing their song and their toleration of the occasional wrong note, I could never have hoped to finish. If nothing
else, I hope that the love and respect I feel for them shines through on every page.”

LIE: Zulfan “Adi said neighborhood Muslims worshipped in a nearby house. When the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Adi remembered seeing Lolo and Barry walk together to the makeshift mosque.” REALITY: The Chicago Tribune reported, “Zulfan Adi, a former neighborhood playmate of Obama’s who has been cited in news reports as saying Obama regularly attended Friday prayers with Soetoro, told the Tribune he was not certain about that when pressed about his recollections. He only knew Obama for a few months, during 1970, when his family moved to the neighborhood.”

LIE: “Obama always acknowledged his stepfather was Muslim, though he did his best to downplay Islam as an important force in his stepfather’s life.” REALITY: Lolo Soetoro was a “Nominal Muslim” who enjoyed bacon. “The grandparents who helped raise Mr. Obama were non-practicing Baptists and Methodists. His mother was an anthropologist who collected religious texts the way others picked up tribal masks, teaching her children the inspirational power of the common narratives and heroes. His mother’s tutelage took place mostly in Indonesia, in the household of Mr. Obama’s stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, a nominal Muslim who hung prayer beads over his bed but enjoyed bacon, which Islam forbids.”

LIE: “As a vice president, Madelyn Dunham would have earned enough to be well off, even if not rich.” REALITY: Obama’s grandparents rented a two bedroom apartment in Honolulu. The Chicago Tribune reported, “At age 11, Obama was sent to Hawaii to live with his grandparents. They lived in a modest two-bedroom Honolulu apartment in order to save money for Obama’s tuition to attend the Punahou Academy, an elite private school.”

LIE: “Still, Obama has yet to answer questions whether he ever dealt drugs, or if he stopped using marijuana and cocaine completely in college, or where his drug usage extended into his law school days or beyond. Did Obama ever use drugs in his days as a community organizer in Chicago, or when he was a state senator from Illinois? How about in the US Senate?” REALITY: OBAMA HAS MADE CLEAR REPEATEDLY THAT HE STOPPED USING MARIJUANA IN COLLEGE, WHICH PEERS HAVE AFFIRMED
Obama Said He Inhaled Pot, But Said He Hadn’t Done “Anything” Since He Was 20. “When I was in high school, I tried pot,” said Obama. “And I won’t say that I didn’t inhale. I did inhale.” He said some of the behavior extended to college. “By the time I was 20, I don’t think I indulged again,” he said. The graduate of Harvard Law School also admits there was a time “I drank a six-pack of beer in a single night.” Any other illegal drugs? “I haven’t done anything since I was 20 years old,” he said. Janny Scott wrote in the New York Times, “Senator Obama, an Illinois Democrat now seeking the presidency, suggests in his book that his years in New York were a pivotal period: He ran three miles a day, buckled down to work and “stopped getting high,” which he says he had started doing in high school.” Obama’s roommate in New York said he refused offers of drugs. The AP reported, “While Obama has acknowledged using marijuana and cocaine during high school in Hawaii, he writes in the memoir that he stopped using soon after his arrival in New York. His roommate had no such scruples. But Siddiqi says that during their time together here, Obama always refused his offers of drugs”

As I said, Linda if you want some more Corsi lies, just let me know. Why do you retread this crap every few weeks? Are you hoping that I won’t catch you and call you out again? Ain’t gonna happen, [deleted] I will ALWAYS report the facts.


Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

First off, why are you still beating that dead birther horse, you lost that race a long time ago. He is a natural born citizen, just give up and admit it.

Second off, go to truthorfiction.com and look up this test, there are pictures there. The very pictures I told you that clearly state what V Stokes, Ansons Nephew, and myself have all stated. Get over, look it up and see where you are wrong.

As for Jerome Corsi, well, enough said there that you would even buy into his garbage.


Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Uh oh! Two dozen experts have now declared Obama's birth certificate suspect or an outright fraud.

Jerome Corsi has a new book out - "Where is the REAL birth certificate".

A couple of items in it -

•Obama was born a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and the United States, a circumstance the Constitution's framers considered an iron-clad roadblock to the presidency


•As a boy, Obama was officially registered in school as a Muslim and Indonesian citizen, another barrier to U.S. natural-born citizenship


•The Congressional Research Service, a public policy arm of Congress, officially admits no one in the government ever vetted Obama's constitutional eligibility

On top of that, he doesn't have the American DNA to be the POTUS. His DNA is cut from being in a muslim school studying the quran, having mentors (Frank) that were communists, staying 20 years in a liberal, left wing Jew hating church, running with terrorists and marxists.

His job was as a street organizer. The group he consistently aligned himself with was ACORN, one of the most corrupt organizations, rip offs and voter fraud participants in recent history.

What on earth would this man, Barack Hussein Obama, possibly know about the real America? Absolutely nothing and he has proven it in every way.

VOTE REPUBLICAN!!


Posted: Monday, November 21, 2011
Article comment by: Linda Athens

What part of this did you not understand?

>>>Put to The Test
6/8/2009
1895 Saline County eighth-grade graduation examination has been Put to The Test
Handwritten notes lend credibility to test

The grandchildren of former Saline County school superintendent J.W. Armstrong found handwritten copies of the grammar questions from the 1895 eighth-grade graduation exam in papers their parents had kept.

The proof is there -- the neat penmanship filling line after line on two yellowed sheets of tablet paper. Seeing the handwriting, Mary Laas thinks fondly of the memories from girlhood of her grandfather, J.W. Armstrong.

A pan of apples usually would sit on the dining room table at her grandparents' -- not unlike apples students would bring for their teachers, and Armstrong had been a teacher. He also at one time had been the county's school superintendent. Armstrong also had farmed and hunted buffalo with the likes of Buffalo Bill Cody.

"He'd tell us stories. That's why I think I'm so interested in history," Laas said.

The two yellowed sheets of tablet paper were discovered in a box of her grandfather's papers this spring by Laas' younger brother, Joe Armstrong. Laas believes they put to rest one of the most tantalizing mysteries surrounding her grandfather -- that an eighth-grade graduation test administered in 1895 is indeed real, not a hoax........<<<<


How you work - I print proof. You completely ignore it. I have seen this test on 20 websites and NOWHERE did it say it was for adults and it specifically said it was for the 8th grade.

You are SOOOO a waste of time!! Try to grow up.



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