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11/9/2012 10:26:00 AM
New Reader Poll: The fiscal cliff

The Fiscal Cliff arrives on Jan. 1. On that date last year's temporary 2 percent payroll tax cut expires, certain tax breaks for businesses end, there are shifts in the alternative minimum tax that take a larger bite, the Bush tax cuts for all taxpayers end, and the ObamaCare taxes kick in. At the same time, the spending cuts that are part of the debt ceiling deal of 2011 will begin to go into effect, triggering deep, automatic cuts to over 1,000 government programs, including the defense budget.

Can our government, the one that created this mess in the first place, get us out of this situation without too much damage to our wallets, our economy and our self-defense capabilities?



• No problem

• The solution won't be all that bad

• Life is going to be a bit tougher

• We're toast



Feel free to leave comments below. Poll is located on the home page, lower right.


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Article comment by: Some Do

I'm sure some minimum wage workers do get a two week vacation. However, there is a group out there that get thirty days of vacation time. If you haven't figured it out a majority of our troops are getting below minimum wage, but they do get their thirty days a year. Some people wouldn't know that though because they are to big of a "coward" to serve.

Posted: Monday, December 3, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Anson - Do you really think a minimum wage worker gets a 2 week vacation?
If so, you have proven how out of touch you are with society and the workplace.”

And there we have more made-up nonsense. PLEASE point out where I ever said minimum wage earners receive two weeks vacation? I will be waiting for your response - be accurate.


Posted: Monday, December 3, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"So yes, a minimum wage-earner would actually have to pay federal income taxes."

Your figures apply to what they pay after all of their tax deductions when they file, right? Didn't think so.

And BTW, since fewer and fewer people are getting married, counting on what you can get from married couples is rather dicey.


Posted: Monday, December 3, 2012
Article comment by: The Root

@Anson.

Do you really think a minimum wage worker gets a 2 week vacation?

If so, you have proven how out of touch you are with society and the workplace.


Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“You really do not believe that anyone making the minimum wage is actually paying federal income taxes? If so, you are delusional.”

The tax rates for anyone making between $8,700 and $35,350 is 15%. Minimum wage would provide $15,080 in income. A couple BTW would make $30,160 with both working minimum wage jobs and the 15% tax rate on joint filers kicks in at $17,400. So yes, a minimum wage-earner would actually have to pay federal income taxes.


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Is it fair?

You really do not believe that anyone making the minimum wage is actually paying federal income taxes? If so, you are delusional.

LOL


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Is it fair. What minimum wage employee pays 30% tax? If someone is paying that much in taxes they either chose to or doesnt know how to fill out a w-4 form.

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Is It Fair?

Why does the GOP figure it is fair for a person making minimum wage to pay nearly 30% of their wages in taxes while Romney pays an effective 15% tax?

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Okay, so i suppose a corporation owning the majority of the company make it not a privately owned company? Makes sense, so any company owned by more that one person is not private, got it!

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@T J

"Yes they do listen to their stockholders chuckles, good job. But that doesnt change the fact that the company is owned in majority by the corporation. And they are ALL accounted for in PRIVATE sector jobs! Do either of you (anson or chuckles) claim that these companies are not private sector jobs???"

I understand it fine, you did not say that though. You said private employers. They are not. Private employer implies privately owned, they are not.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Do either of you (anson or chuckles) claim that these companies are not private sector jobs???”

YOU need to understand that a job in the private sector does not mean the company is a “private” company.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Yes they do listen to their stockholders chuckles, good job. But that doesnt change the fact that the company is owned in majority by the corporation. And they are ALL accounted for in PRIVATE sector jobs! Do either of you (anson or chuckles) claim that these companies are not private sector jobs???

Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“...how do i explain this...”

Please, do some actual research on what a publicly traded company and what a private company are. To cut to the chase – you’re wrong – again.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@T J

"how do i explain this...a publicly traded company sells its shares, generally 49% of their available stock or securities and keeps the other 51% under the expressed control of the company and not the public. so, although there are many stock holders, the company remains under the control of a corporation and hired employees of the company. making them private companies AND are accounted for when totalling private sector jobs."

Nice try at spinning it at least.

A publicly traded company is just that, publicly traded. They do listen to stock holders. At times.

A privately owned company is different. Enough said.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@lori

I think the real question is...
Why would we keep expensive, non essential government programs when we don't have the money to pay for them?

Saying that the government doesn't have the money to pay for companies and individuals to keep their earnings which rightfully belongs to those companies and individuals makes no sense at all.

Many individuals and companies would not be opposed to paying higher taxes if they were assured that the money would go to paying down the debt. But in reality, any additional revenue going to the government will only go to the perpetuation and expansion of wasteful government programs.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: tj denton

...how do i explain this...a publicly traded company sells its shares, generally 49% of their available stock or securities and keeps the other 51% under the expressed control of the company and not the public. so, although there are many stock holders, the company remains under the control of a corporation and hired employees of the company. making them private companies AND are accounted for when totalling private sector jobs.

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Bob Johnson

@ Lori Dane i agree with you on the taxes i think everyone should pay 10%. But whats your solution on fixing the problem because the guy you voted for has no clue raising taxes on the rich solves nothing. we cant keep paying for programs we cant afford on the backs of private workers. were 17 tillion in debt the dollar is worth 71 cents are credit rating is gonna drop again in febuary 2013. I hope you Obama supporters made the right choice.

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@T J

"actually chuckles they are privately owned companies that are TRADED publicly on the NYSE. being publicly traded does not mean you arent a private company. almost every companies stocks are publicly traded, whether it be on the NYSE or the OTC BB. nice try though."

Meaning they are publicly owned, not private. Nice try though. If you look, and believe me, I did it is out there, there is a list of the top 10 PRIVATE company employers out there.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: tj denton

actually chuckles they are privately owned companies that are TRADED publicly on the NYSE. being publicly traded does not mean you arent a private company. almost every companies stocks are publicly traded, whether it be on the NYSE or the OTC BB. nice try though.

Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

Re: "be specific"

For fun i used google to see how long it would take and how difficult it would be to find the "specific" comment, by the "specific" person. Less than 2 minutes.

If you need help to do the same...... tough. Or maybe you can say "I did it, but my response was censored"

LOL


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

"be specific"

Since you asked, that would be ..........Wait a minute, what obligation do i have to tell the likes of you who it was. Contrary to what you may believe, you are not in charge here. Here's a suggestion, look at previous comments and figure it out. Or are you still too lazy to do your own research?

And sorry, I did my time. Stateside, non-glorious dull job, 4 years and out. Now go find how many times i have found it necessary to toss that out as if it mattered in a comment unrelated to miltary service.

And military jobs are among the few govt jobs that are not worthless and could not be contracted out and be done better for a lot less cost. We NEED a military......we would survive fine with less welfare office employees.

But hey, nice try at making stuff up.

"Beetle Bailey"

You don't think for a minute i would find a leftist admiring a lazy slacker coming as a big surprise, do you? He may well be role model to you.

LOL


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@anonymous anonymous

"I think not......"

I am sure that if you were one of the non-bakers union Hostess employees put out of work by the union scum you might feel differently. When and if some of those closed baking facilities are bought and reopened, the union scum will not be invited back

"Other sugar filled treat manufacturers...."

And a good possibility is that one of the most likely companies to purchase some or all of the assets could be Grupa Bimbo, the worlds largest bread baking company located in Mexico. Should that happen, Twinkies could be made in Mexico and just shipped in.

All this thanks to union scum.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@T J

"here are the top ten private employers in america with the amount of employees they have, if you would like 40 let me know."

Actually T J, the list you provided is a list of publicly held companies, not privately held.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

 Company Employees
1. Wal-Mart 1,800,000
2. McDonald's  447,000
3. United Parcel Service 407,000
4. Sears Holdings 355,000
5. Home Depot 345,000
6. Target 337,000
7. IBM 329,373
8. General Motors 327,000
9. General Electric 316,000
10. Citigroup 303,000

Lori, here are the top ten private employers in america with the amount of employees they have, if you would like 40 let me know.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

To Bob Johnson:

You wrote, "Why would you keep programs if you have to raise taxes on people are borrow money to pay for them. Thats called stupid economics."

Why would we keep giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy and big corporations when we don't have the money to pay for them? That is even stupider (is there such a word?) economics.

The Republicans don't want to pay for programs that actually help people, so that they can continue to give those tax cuts to the people who don't need any help? That makes absolutely no sense. And if those big tax cuts are the wealthy's reward for creating jobs, I'd like to know where all those jobs are.



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