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11/13/2012 6:01:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Border shooting smells of cover-up

Recently, three U.S. Border Patrol Agents were involved in a shooting which resulted in the death of one and the wounding of another.

Federal investigators sold this rotten lemon to the public, saying, "Oops! Friendly fire. End of story."

Well, that's not the end of the story. As taxpayers, we foot the bill not only for training, equipment, salaries and more for federal agencies, but also for comprehensive investigations of such incidents as this one. We deserve a detailed, realistic explanation!

"Friendly fire" is a sometimes acceptable excuse in military combat situations where confusion and pandemonium reign supreme.

In 20 years of experience in law enforcement on city, state and national levels, I have never heard the term "friendly fire" applied to shooting incidents.

All police officers are required to qualify in marksmanship - daylight and lowlight - target identification and evaluation, judgmental and discretionary, and shoot/don't shoot scenarios at least once each year. Some departments require more than that.

Are we, the public, to believe that three supposedly highly trained federal officers were shooting at shadows or sounds in the dark at a distance of 20 or so yards?

Could it be that someone's pants were caught "south of the border"?

Come on, news people, let's get some scoop-hungry investigative reporters after this. It smells of typical government cover-up.

Jerry Claborn

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Saturday, November 17, 2012
Article comment by: az brat brat

I knew an officer who worked in narcotics division for Az. D.P.S. for 41/2 yrs.. He did a lot of interaction with DEA. One night out in a field when the bust went down one of the DEA officers who had never worked with mistook him for one of the suspects and had a cocked gun held in his ear ready to shot--he was in the care of God! The other officers had to really talk the DEA officer down. The adrenelin that runs rapid during these situations is tremendous. Thank God for his intervention and proction over that D.P.S. officer who had a career of 351/2yrs. with Az.D.P.S..

Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Article comment by: Michael Betts

You smell a cover up? Another wants to know the truth? The truth is there was and investigation into the incident and after carefully looking at the evidence the truth is 1 agent killed another in a friendly fire incident. You act as if this dosen't happen. NYC Apr.25,2012 2 NYC police officers while shooting a suspected killer 7 times also manage to wound 9 innocent bystanders while unloading 16 shots from 8 feet away from suspect. You don't want to know the truth you want a fable that up holds your beliefs.

Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Article comment by: G Ma

Patriot Wes ... You need a therapist . Very scary the way you think .

Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Article comment by: no way

"Friendly fire" is a sometimes acceptable excuse in military combat situations where confusion and pandemonium reign supreme.

In 20 years of experience in law enforcement on city, state and national levels, I have never heard the term "friendly fire" applied to shooting incidents.

So you have heard of it in military context but never in law enforcement. Considering a lot of ex-military venture into law enforcement why wouldn't it work its way into terminology used by law enforcement? I have 25 years experience on the state level and have heard it used more than once. You speculate in your letter what happened, but are quick to write it alleging a conspiracy. How do you know this? Please present your facts. Without giving it much thought, I can recall two shootings of law enforcement officers by fellow officers. One was accidental in a police parking lot and the other of an officer being mistaken for a suspect. It is amazing that we even need these investigations at all what with all the arm chair detectives out there who are able to determine by reading a story or listening to talk radio what "really" happened.


Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Article comment by: Patriot WES

Everything these days is a cover up! This is what the people wanted and this is what they voted for!
The problem is by the time they realize what is really happening, it is to late. hello Hitler, Stalin, Obama


Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Looks like the raid the other night on the generals mistress/biographer is unraveling a strange story, now she is facing charges for being in possession of classified data, to me this story has longer legs than a dead horse story on border agents involved in friendly fire, cure for that might be to train them better in fire control in a possible fire fight! But now my question is how did Fox network get access to these classified documents on the emails from Libyan Consulate to USA? It is strange Fox anchors are terribly worried about why this investigation even ocurred at all, might they be worried a UK style scandal is about to erupt here in America on how they obtain information on their stories?

Posted: Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Article comment by: So what are you suggesting?

Ok, so after accusing the government of a cover up, what are their motives for doing that? Do you think the other two agents killed Ivie on purpose? You had three agents approaching a tripped motion sensor from different angles in the dark, with nerves of high alert crap happens, stop stirring the pot. Secondly, if you're so interested why don't you go figure it out yourself if this just a "typical government coverup", because thats right, the government is always out to get us.

Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

So funny the birthers and conspiracy theorists have hardly got the bitter taste of election degeat out of their mouths and they are now starting some new conspiracy theories! I guess this one is not as amusing as the secessionists and their petition they are circulating! No wonder the GOP cannot break the 32% national registration limitation they seem to have hit, who in their right mind wants to be connected to unpatriotic secessionists who hate America so much they wish to leave the union, funny this reminds me of how some folks fail to heed history and are doomed to repeat it!

Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Article comment by: Doing Research

Jerry,

I am in favor of investigations when appropriate, but you make it sound like law enforcement officials are inacable of making mistakes.

I refer you to a youtube video that went viral in 2006 of a police officer who brought a loaded weapon into a classroom shooting himself in the leg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0

If he can experience friendly fire in the middle of the day from the only cop in the room, it might be possible for it to happen between individuals.

When you personally think something sounds fishy, why don't you ask some experts about the situation? Why don't you leave the accusations to those people who legally have the responsibility?
Or do you want to be the guy that simply thinks aliens cause everything he can't explain on his own?
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ancient-aliens


Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Article comment by: JIST me a walkin

youve never heard of friendly fire, or cops shooting other cops in the heat of things going on.
i dont think you read the paper very often, listen to the news ..... and i have my doubts you were actually a police officer.
.
sometimes thing boil down to just an accident, tragic but accident


Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

And now we have a new conspiracy theory for the loons to grab on to. Sad, very sad.

Posted: Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Article comment by: Capt. Nice

Jerry
I thought this sounded kinda fishy when I first read it. Sure would be nice to hear the truth but I doubt if we will ever hear it.
Probably some poor illegal just looking for a job and wanting to raise his family took his AK 47 and nailed these guys. But being election year the obumer administration covered up another screw up.....
The left paid for this election, now they have to live with it....sure glad I don't buy any of their crap! Give it time and it will all catch up with them just like mexifornia!




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