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1/3/2013 6:01:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Not staying in Kingman

We moved here seven months ago. We are now leaving.

The reason - this city has a huge drug and crime problem, some areas are so run down they should be bulldozed, there is no evidence of sensible government leadership and it's possibly corrupt.

The Daily Miner is depressing to read - the front page is always reporting the latest murder, theft, break-in or child molestation. In our opinion, this city needs to certainly raise its standards and get rid of the drugs and crime.

If the present conditions continue, others who are good, law-abiding citizens will also choose to leave.

Riley Hall


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: 15 years in Kingman

Actually getting out is EXPENSIVE--I find the people that say "you are free to leave", "Bye Bye" or "you aren't trapped here" or "nothing is stopping you" , etc. hilarious. It is very hard to come up with the money to travel to an out of state interview. Many places will not hire without face to face interviews, even in this age of technology. Then, there is the money needed to actually move. If you happen to get a job elsewhere, companies paying moving expenses are no longer considered. As usual, I see a lot of typing, not a lot of thinking...I've been here long enough to know. And I would like to leave, since Kingman has lots of potential that will NEVER be realized. This should be a great place to live. Instead, it is most definately NOT.

Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: No name provided

RE: check again Uncle Bob

I think he may be talking about people who receive Food Stamps, and AHCCCS in addition to their SSD benefits. They do have restrictions for those.

Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: check again Uncle Bob

I dont know where you get your figures. Ive been on SSD many years. Nobody has EVER looked into my bank account or for that matter checked up on the cost of a vehicle I may have purchased.

So far as having more then "allowed" by SSD per month. Its varies greatly person to person. I can earn 800.00 before SSD does anything to my benefits. After 800 for every two dollars I earn SSD will deduct one dollar. Which means I can bring in a total of 2075.00 per month before I will hear a peep from SSD.

I've never been asked or had to show any figures on anything I have purchase since drawing SSD.

I really think you have been misinformed or dont understand your benefits.

Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Article comment by: Jack Shepherd

When you find that pure place of no problems, please let us know where it is. No matter where you go, once you get there you find the same problems with different faces.

Posted: Monday, January 7, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Nephew - Please explain to the uninformed and less educated than thee just why God was added to the pledge of allegiance.”

Louis A. Bowman, a Republican attorney from Illinois and Chaplain of the Illinois Society of the Sons of the American Revolution was the first to initiate the addition of "under God" to the Pledge. At a meeting on February 12, 1948 he led the Society in swearing the Pledge with two words added, "under God."

In 1951, the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternal service organization, began including the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance in New York City, on April 30, 1951. Over the next two years, the idea spread throughout Knights of Columbus organizations nationwide. This campaign led to several official attempts to prompt Congress to adopt the Knights of Columbus’ policy for the entire nation. These attempts failed.

Prior to February 1954, no endeavor to get the Pledge officially amended succeeded. The final successful push came from George MacPherson Docherty pastor of the New York Avenue Presbyterian Church who delivered a sermon titled "A New Birth of Freedom."

President Eisenhower had recently been baptized a Presbyterian and responded enthusiastically to Docherty in a conversation following the service. Eisenhower acted on his suggestion the next day and on February 8, 1954, Rep. Charles Oakman (R-Mich.), introduced a bill to that effect. Congress passed the necessary legislation and Eisenhower signed the bill into law on Flag Day, June 14, 1954.

The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a Joint Resolution of Congress amending para 7 of the Flag Code enacted in 1942.


Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013
Article comment by: No name provided

Re: Santa Fe Jay - I agree. By the way, you have a cool handle name. Did you used to work for the Santa Fe RR?

Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013
Article comment by: Patricia Hapke

I am from California. I came here to start a new life 8 years ago. I love Kingman. I live in Butler. I had no idea about the different subdivisions when I moved here. Butler is not as bad as everyone makes out. I live in a trailer and have a clean yard but with nothing fancy. I have a Bachelors degree and am working on my Masters degree. If it weren't for living in Butler where it is low cost I would not be able to afford to go to school. I have raised two children and am raising a third here in Butler and they are wonderful girls. Drugs and crime are in every place you live. When you move you must decide in your head not to take what you have left behind. You will find all of the bad things you are leaving here anywhere you go but you have to make the choice to not be around the things you are leaving here. As far as government goes maybe you should get more involved or realize it isn't perfect no matter where you go. Every where you go you will find places that are undesirable like Butler but I have found a wonderful place in Butler to live where the neighbors are all watching out for each others kids and the adults exchange cards every holiday. Truthfully I have never lived in a better neighborhood. It is what you make of it. Think about it!

Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013
Article comment by: David Gaither

Cookie cutter towns wrote:

"The only thing Kingman has over other towns Ive lived are the Mountians and desert beauty.

Everything else can be found in every town in America."

Besides that, there are several very good aspects to the Kingman area. When is the last time you've heard of a tornado, or earthquake, or valcano, or wildfire (that threatens your home), or devastating floods, or mosquitos so bad you can't sit outside in the evening, or snow so deep that you have to call someone to dig you out of your house?

Count your blessings...you live in a great part of the country!

Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013
Article comment by: 000000 0000000

Kingman does need a good cleaning. I wonder if anyone gave any thought to the possibility and probability of some of the residents needing help with the cleanup and repair. Many of the areas needing cleanup and repair are older residents with disabilities and lower incomes. Now this is interesting thought, who volunteers to help the needy residents?

Now here’s another thought, Neighborhood watch…. Who can organize your Neighborhood Watch?

The local newspaper writes about what it is going on in the area. When is the last time some called in some local news, a human interest story? When was the last time one of the local organizations wrote or gave the paper a story? If in fact our little newspaper is receiving stories from its citizens and not publishing them, shame on this newspaper. I will ask you how much do you think happens in ANY little town/city that does not even make the newspaper? So much for finding the perfect little town/city.

Drugs, drugs been around since the near beginning of time. My mother talked about drugs when she was in school. That would have been in the 30’s and 40’s. Who attends the Meth Coalition meetings?

I know there is not a lot for teenagers to do. When is the last time you did something with your child?

The point I am trying to make is Kingman is what we make it.

Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013
Article comment by: Uncle Bob

@Kingman Resident,
" Look folks, NOBODY is "trapped" here. This is still a free country where we can live where ever we like. So, if you don't like it here, please feel free to go. My wife and will stick around to turn off the lights after y'all have left."
Yes there are people trapped here, in many cases they are disabled and can not find a used vehicle in their price range. Part of this cause is the effect of buyback program on clunkers.

You see the laws on buying a car by the disabled has a cash limit in any amount spent by the disabled, As an example a person on disability has a very strict rule that anyone can not have in their possesion a total monthy income above 2 thousand, Well if they, say have 1,000 income from disability, then that means that the total amount they can spend is 1,000 on a car, More than 2,000 that can be traced to this disabled person in one month can cause them to lose their disabled status. Even using Uhaul for a move requires a credit card aside from the cash, Find a 500 dollar car or truck, and that is very unlikely, not to mention it will have issues that were not told in advance. No the sick, and poor are stuck here as in many communities.

Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: nnp .....

two types of personalities exist - those who bury their head in the sand, and those who do not. God intended for man to eat ostriches, not imitate them.

Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: cheryl compton

Mrs Riley,Ive lived east of Kingman for over 6 years.I moved here from Carefree Az and I absolutely love it here.If you dont like the junk cars,mattresses and trash then may I suggest that you move to Anthem Az where you will have a homeowners association help you in this area.Next time do your homework before ya move.Location,location,location.

Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: Santa Fe Jay

Sure would like to know why the DAILY MINER does not post all comments on here! I wrote a comment to this story and it never appeared. Guess when your the editor of a big newspaper and you don't agree with a comment, you can just hit DELETE !!!

Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

@mr parker

So Scott Walker is a nanny governor that's micromanaging your life? I'd hate to see what you think a nominal government looks like.

I lived in K-town much longer than you have, and it's not the scenery that's the problem, it's the people. If scenery alone was all it took then most Americans would have relocated to the tropics once the air conditioner was invented.

Personally, I'd live overseas in about a dozen places i've been, but then again, I apparently have higher standards since I don't think that TV is a substitute for human interaction.

Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: Cookie cutter towns

The only thing Kingman has over other towns Ive lived are the Mountians and desert beauty.

Everything else can be found in every town in America.

Home is what YOU make of it. You dont like trashy neighborhoods. Pay alittle more rent or get a roommate and move to a nicer part of town.

I've lived here almost 8 yrs. Downtown for 6 of those. Ive never been burgled or had anything stolen from my property. Kingman could use some real jobs....like Everywhere else.

Posted: Saturday, January 5, 2013
Article comment by: Try it You'll Like It

Yes, Linda Las Cruces is lovely.

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Two types of personalities exist type A who tend to be unhappy, miserable, whine and cry almost continiously and lean to premature cardiac arrest and short lives and type B who tend to be happy most of the time, not so miserable and tend to not whine and cry constantly about things outside anyones control, and tend to have longer lives with low blood pressure and better health, nothing is not without its exceptions but as a general rule, takes no rocket scientist to detect who is a type A or type B in these posts, doubt politics have much meaning to criminals or drug addicts since their next crime or fix is what drives their lives!

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: Jim Bob

I moved from the "devil" state California a litte over a year ago. That state has gone to hell in the last 20 years. Kingman is dealing with a lot of problems, from sudden growth, to no growth, as more and more cities across this country are. I first moved to Golden Valley for 6 months, and then move to an area outside of Kingman. I really would not want to live in Kingman city limits, or close surrounding areas, as Kingman is losing respect with citizens. When you lose the respect of citizens, you lose the respect of criminals, who then will think they can get away with dispecting anyone.

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: Randy W

@ Riley-
No way? You mean the newspaper reports the latest news? There's rarely a murder around here and a few child molestations but rarely do crimes go unsolved, the Kingman Police do an outstanding job as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, sounds like you live in the unincorporated area. I live in a typical blue collar area in town for over 4 years now and there's no major problems here. Even the kids in this area are well behaved other than maybe playing hide and seek once or twice on my property. It's nice here, it's too bad you haven't had the same experience as I.

Lori Gabriel Dane- Not sure how long it's been since you've been to Wauconda but it's a utopia no more. Round Lake and Grayslake have gained many displaced residents from the now defunct Cabrini Green public housing project and with that, LOTS of crime and gangs has spilled over to surrounding suburbs like Wauconda. Barrington is good but Mundelein, Cary, Crystal Lake and Lake Zurich aren't so hot anymore either. Lots of McHenry County trash and crime up in those parts, it's much better here in Kingman. Kingman certainly has its irritating points and I could go on about those but overall it's a neat place to live!

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: SNC CNS

Sounds more like a Facebook post, not a letter in the newspaper. Sort of an odd thing to put in the paper. With that being said, I don't really blame you. Yes, crime and drugs are everywhere, but you can find places that don't have as much and may have better opportunities as well. Good luck!

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: You Don't Say

@ Stuck On One Thing

I didn't comment on anything else because it was all true. But Meth is a major problem all across this country and in just about every crime log you read it will prove true also.

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: STUART VARON


Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: Proud Kingmanite

Kingman ain't perfect, but I love it here. I come from a very large city in the Midwest that has fallen into the hip-hop...*ahem*, er, "culture" by and large and saw a once beautiful neighborhood turned into "the hood".

i researched many of the smaller towns in Arizona and it came down to Wickenburg or Kingman. Kingman at the time (and still today?) seemed to have more job opportunity and growth, so we moved out here and haven't looked back since.

I truly wish a "Mayberry" type of place DID exist, but I'm afraid THAT America is dead. The new America is one where people know more about Kim Kardashian than they do about Abraham Lincoln. But Kingman does have a lot of good folks living here, probably more good than bad-but that doesn't sell at a newspaper stand.

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: Stuck On One Thing

@ If You Say So

its rather funny that out of that entire paragraph you comment on one thing!!

Meth is an issue for this town deny it all you want but its a real problem here.

Posted: Friday, January 4, 2013
Article comment by: If You Say So

@ Stuck On One Thing

"Read the crime log almost every arrest has METH or drugs involved."

Produce a Crime Log that doesn't!

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