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1/24/2013 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Heroes step up

A man could learn a few things, Mr. President, from Pastor King. Although we grudgingly have now adopted both federal and state holidays for this fallen hero, one could say the lessons continue. Arizona, the last state to honor King, only did so because of the threat from professional sports. NBA and NFL, with others too, were ready to boycott Arizona. Arizona saw the lost income and became the 50th state to honor King.

The president might learn that he holds the highest office to express the people's concerns, not his personal vendettas on any subject, left or right. Pastor King gave the full measure of his weight for his countrymen, country and God. He died for what he believed in.

Mr. Obama, what have you given? Division and an unclear future with debt, and regulation, little on jobs, and your healthcare vision, not America's healthcare vision. Your attempted consolation on hurricanes or murders around the country appear hollow to most of us. Your self-will run riot serves no one. Now, when we need a leader, we get frothy emotions and rhetoric about guns, and two houses now greatly divided within themselves.

You can do better.

Martin Luther King, civil rights pastor, succeeded Vernon Johns, an early leader of the movement. Johns served from 1947 to 1952 and is thought to be responsible for recruiting King.

King at first was not keen on the idea. No hero ever is, and yet he rose to the occasion and served the church from 1954 to 1960, and with the help of Johns organized the Montgomery bus boycott. But you know this already.

Racism and prejudice are still rampant in the USA and the world. If, and only if, we look past ourselves and to the future, we might have a chance at Mr. King's and JFK's dreams.

Ask not what your country and God can do for you. Instead, ask what you can do for God and country.

Jack Shepherd

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“To see the actual words of the Founders and then have BM instead put David Barton down is pitiful.”

How can I be accused of putting down David Barton when all I have done is to show where he admits lying in his various self-published screeds? It is Barton who has proven himself to be a charlatan and a liar and I am simply providing the information that he placed on his own website.

“One would think he might be impressed by the words of our Founders rather than his own words putting David Barton down.”

And yes, I am impressed by the words of our Founders, but not impressed in the least by the lies (as admitted to) printed by Barton. And I will admit I do take some self-satisfaction in my words where I show Barton to be a self-admitted liar and charlatan. For someone to continue defending a self-admitted prevaricator has become almost silly.

As to profanity, basically I say “So what?” to Lincoln and his stupid rules regarding the use of profanity by men in the armed forces. Profanity has a strong tradition among men of all nations throughout history and serves a wonderful purpose – despite what some bluenoses might say to the opposite. And I might point out that Ms Athens has resorted to profanity on these very pages so to suddenly take such a stance is … well, you know


Posted: Monday, January 28, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"To see the actual words of the Founders and then have BM instead put David Barton down is pitiful. One would think he might be impressed by the words of our Founders rather than his own words putting David Barton down. "

Sorry, but having seen Barton's own words, it is he himself putting Barton down. Barton has admitted he lied. Oops...darn those facts.

As to the order about profanity, you are now OK with government telling us how we can speak too? Really?


Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Our great past heroes didn't allow profanity. That included Lincoln and Washington.

During the Civil War, distressed at hearing profanity, Liincoln issued this order.

Comissioned officers or soldiers who shall use any profane oath or execration shall incur the penalties expressed in the foregoing article."

Penalties:
"Commissioned officers be brought before a general court-martial, there to be publicly and severely reprimanded by the President if non-commissioned officers or soldiers, every person so offending shall for his first offence forfeit one-sixth of a dollar, to be deducted out of his next pay for the second offence, he shall not only forfeit a like sum but be confined twenty-four hours."

So serious was Lincoln, he had the orders "be read every Sunday morning to each company and detachment serving in this Army.”

He even personally confronted one of his own generals when he learned of his profanity and then urged the general to use his authority to combat that vice.

A number of court-martials of soldiers in the Civil War even involved the use of profanity, and at one such trial, the court reiterated the evil of this vice, declaring:

The Court, however, would fail of its duty if it refrained from saying that the frightful profanity into which the accused suffered himself to fall is worthy of the severest censure and condemnation. All profanity is justly denounced by the Articles of War, and is alike offensive to every law of religion, good morals, and propriety"

To see the actual words of the Founders and then have BM instead put David Barton down is pitiful. One would think he might be impressed by the words of our Founders rather than his own words putting David Barton down.


Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

The only thing for sure is we are a divided electorate, republicans, democrats, independents and some minority parties such as Greens, Llibertarians etc., the two dominant parties will always argue, disagree, try and win through hook or crook, the sun will rise tomorrow and set that night! The worry warts will worry, those of us who find humor in the worry warts will find humor in them, and the world will turn and life will go on!

Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“You don't know what you are talking about because the liberal press never reports the truth.

Yes, the truth comes from FAUX News – the only “news” organization to ever go to court and demand the right to lie about, distort and make up news stories. The truth comes from Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Malkin, Coulter, Ingraham, Savage, ad nauseum. Sorry, as you are so fond of saying, “that dog won’t hunt.” In fact he won’t go outside.

“We push no tax increases WITHOUT BRINGING DOWN THE DEBT. The libs never agree with it - then the R's are said to cause gridlock.”

Let’s see who was it that said if given the opportunity to reduce spending by $10 with a $1 increase in taxes? Oh, yes it was the Circus of Fools the Republicans trotted out (all nine of them) last year in a gloriously failed attempt to take us back to the Reign of Error of The Criminal. Who was that refused to accept any reduction in spending tied to a moderate increase in taxes on the wealthiest 1% of our population? Oh, yeah that would be the Republicans.

With nearly 400 filibusters to their credit in the past four years (more than anytime in our history) how anyone can made the ludicrous claim that the Republicans are not responsible for Congressional gridlock is truly astounding.

w/c


Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013
Article comment by: Chis Godfrey

@ Linda

Why does it not surprise me that you are not a fan of MLK?






Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“I am a lover of George Washington who refused to let his men do anything immoral including use profanity and Jefferson who cut the morals of Jesus out of the Bible and made a special book he handed out to Congressmen to keep them moral. The book was handed out for fifty years.”

More nonsense from the charlatan David Barton’s Playbook.


Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013
Article comment by: N A

@Linda Athens
You are 100% right.


Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013
Article comment by: what think again

@ LA.

"Racism runs rampant with the Libs"

Its sad your serious. Ive never run into a Conservative down at the soup kitchen. Never saw any collecting clothing for the poor. Never saw kindness to disabled from them either.

Ive been called a bum, a parasite, a dreg of society, and worthless. Why. Because I live on SSD that I contributed into. Why do conservatives call me those things while they cash the same check I do?

You want to see racism. Look in the mirror. We are all guilty.


Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

AMEN Linda, agree with you 100% and that's a fact!

Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Doing Research:

You honest to God believe Martin Luther King was more important to celebrate then Abraham Lincoln who fought for freedom for the slaves? Get real!

Incidentally, GRIDLOCK IS CAUSED BY OBAMA AND LIBERALS. You don't know what you are talking about because the liberal press never reports the truth. Obama has never said what he wants, Republicans present bill after bill after bill, Reid tables them all and then tells everyone the Republicans are doing nothing. Reid won't let anything from the R's be voted on in the Senate usually.

Perhaps it has not occured to you that every Republican has ALSO been elected to their position. They have a right to represent the people who voted them in. DUH!!!! Like we don't believe in SIXTEEN TRILLION IN DEBT LIKE OBAMA AND YOU LIBS DO!! WE DON"T BELIEVE IN STRAPPING OUR PROGENY WITH DEBT THE MINUTE THEY ARE BORN LIKE YOU LIBS DO!!

We push no tax increases WITHOUT BRINGING DOWN THE DEBT. The libs never agree with it - then the R's are said to cause gridlock.


Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Its always amusing to hear the far right try feebly to use Martin Luther King in a rant against the first non-white president in american history! I guess they do not realize we older white folks who let them leave our party the democrat party know their real name dixiecrats, them angry segregationists who found their home in the republican party! I think the funniest thing to read post demise of old Senator Strom Thurmond was how at 26 he seduced a black 16 year old girl who worked as a housemaid in his home, fathered a out of wedlock child with her and till his dying day believed in segregation and the best the GOP can do is mention Senator Byrds Ku Klux Klan recruitment days but they fail to mention his repentence, rejection of his youthful past indescretions, wonder when some meet Jesus will he know them or not! You can fool anyone on this earth with pretty words but Jesus will be the one person all the fancy games, wrods will be end of the road!

Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: blinders all around

Well Anson,

Nothing will ever be credited to the Obama administration in our fair state.

The guy could fly like superman, cure cancer, broker world peace, and for fun become invisible.

He's the focus of all haterd. The post election sour grapes ( 5 yrs now), lost jobs, broken homes, bad weather, and even hang nails have been claimed as his doing.

As long as the sun rises over Kingman Arizona. Its never forgotten whos safe after it sets.



Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

I'm sorry, but the GOP goons are the ones who sold the idea of "my way or gridlock." You complain about division? Maybe if you call your Congresspeople and Senators and ask them not to be such stubborn idiots we can get something going.

Furthermore, AZ was the last state to approve MLK day only because the politicians at the time (and voters I imagine) where too ignorant to do what other racist states had done:
1) Approve the day as a recognized holiday
2) Rename it something stupid, like Utah's "Human Rights day" as a solid up yours to racial equality.

Heck, Mississippi and Alabama - honest to God celebrate - Robert E. Lee Day the same day - and intentionally moved that holiday from Lee's birthday, the 19th, to now be the "third Monday in January."

But did anyone in AZ figure out how to get around this in a clever and politically low-cost way? Nope. They obstinately waited, thinking the rules didn't apply to them, then felt victimized when they finally get outsider attention and.... shock and awe.... those outsiders have moral conviction.

Also I think you confuse civil rights issues with day-to-day politics. These are vastly different things - arguing over corn subsidies and bailouts is not the single-topic conversation of wanting equality. In a 13--year career you can make some headway in that - but remember how unequal things still were in 1968. You want something as drastic as 40 years of single-topic policy movement from 8 years of 1 president?

Good luck - let me know how often that's ever happened.


Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Jack:

Have to disagree with you a little here. I don't believe racism runs rampant in America at all. It runs rampant on the libs side only. They never miss a chance to accuse a conservative of being a racist. We conservatives don't do that.

And I am no fan of either JFK or MLK.

I am a lover of George Washington who refused to let his men do anything immoral including use profanity and Jefferson who cut the morals of Jesus out of the Bible and made a special book he handed out to Congressmen to keep them moral. The book was handed out for fifty years.

We should print copies and start handing it out again.


Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“the answer is TWO”

And what part of a “Representative Government” do you not understand?

For additional background it should be pointed out that Ronald The Dim signed a bill making MLK Day a Federal Holiday. Poor Sad Lil John McCain also supported a bill in Arizona that failed when 76% of the electorate turned it down, resulting in a loss of $500 million ($795 million today) to the state along with the Super Bowl in 1993.


Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: jist me

JACK, how many states actually vote, by popular fote, to make that a holiday??

the answer is TWO


Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Mr. Obama, what have you given?”

Here you go -

Factory output 15% higher than at its lowest point 2 ˝ years ago, oil imports lower and domestic production up in the last four years.

More illegal immigrants captured and deported (more than 450,000 last year) over the past 4 years than during the Reign of error of The Criminal.

American auto industry on verge of collapse four years ago was saved. Hundreds of thousands of jobs saved.

Osama bin Laden killed.

95% of Americans paying a lower rate of taxes as compared to three years ago.

War in Iraq ended with all combat troops now out of the country.

Ended DADT with no negative impact to the troops.

Tax credits for businesses that hire returning veterans.

Health care reform—no more refusal of coverage of preexisting conditions, children can stay on parent’s insurance until 26, closed prescription donut hole for seniors. More reforms to come.

Financial industry and credit card industry reform which led to the formation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

And why do you feel that ensuring women receive equal pay for equal work is wrong? Health care for children is wrong? Enforcing fraud laws is wrong? Protecting Americans from the abuses of the credit card industry is wrong? Shutting down off-shore tax havens used by drug dealers and thieves is wrong? Providing criminal penalties for mortgage fraud is wrong? Adding additional loan programs for small businesses is wrong? Shutting off access to federal contracts by tax cheats is wrong? Cracking down on high seas piracy is wrong? Bringing about reforms in the student loan program is wrong?

w/c273





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