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2/8/2013 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letters: No respect for great presidents

There was a notice in my bank's drive-through window that they will be open on President's Day.

They saw fit to show honor to Martin L. King's birthday by closing their banks on that day, but do not show the same honor to the two greatest presidents this country has ever had.

That really disgusts me.

Roger Buck

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, February 18, 2013
Article comment by: KDM online reader only

Re: Banks are closed
"I`m calling baloney on this one! Please tell us which bank this is"

Wells Fargo confirmed they are closed on Martin Luther King Day, and is open on President's Day. Very insulting.


Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Article comment by: Retired Banker

@ Open Bank
I worked in banking for many years. I have to disagree with your suggestion that banks should be open every day including Sunday (which some of the big ones are in larger cities ) banks rely on the Federal Reserve to process the checks you deposit and write (if you're still wasting people's time writing them.) Saturdays and Sundays are convenience days at banks - and the checks deposited just sit there for 2 extra days. Get a debit card - get direct deposit - use that ATM. Nobody really needs a physical branch.


Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013
Article comment by: Lincoln Birthday

Tuesday February 12th is Abe Lincoln,s birthday. Should the banks be closed in his honor?? I hope not.

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

“… the five states obama needed were thrown to get him in again. Proof is starting to come out.” I will ask you to provide said “proof” as I have the past five times you posted this nonsense.

“As libs constantly told us fraud in voting was as rare as lighning striking twice,…” I reported there was no voter fraud – based on a stipulation by the State of Pennsylvania at trial when they stated no evidence of voter fraud existed in Pennsylvania or in any other state. I was forced to correct that when we learned massive voter fraud was being perpetrated by the Republican Party that shut down registration in five states. “The Hamilton County Bd of Elections is investigating 19 cases of alleged voter fraud…” There were a total of 397,161 votes cast in Hamilton County, Ohio making 19 “alleged” cases (which I doubt) so insignificant as to be virtually incalculable on a percentage basis. And you did not mention Hamilton County began the investigation with 80 cases and are now DOWN to 19 – and I imagine all of those will disappear as well.“… she very candidly admitted to Cincinnati's Channel 9 that she voted twice in this last election.” Ms Richardson has stated she voted both by absentee and at the polls because she feared (thanks to Ohio’s attempts at voter suppression) her absentee ballot would not be counted. As it stands her polling location ballot was invalidated when it was cross-checked with absentee records. “So by law, she should serve a jail term, right?” For what? Has she been convicted of anything? Where is your ire regarding Roxanne Rubin, a Nevada Republican who ADMITTED to voter fraud and received a fine? Why wasn’t she tossed in jail? Please answer that, thank you.


Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013
Article comment by: Think Tank

Banks have been open on President's Day for years. At least the last ten or so and probably further back than that. How is this disrespecting any president? Do you sit home on President's Day and watch documentaries about the presidents all day? I doubt that. It is in fact obvious why you brought up Martin Luther King Jr. It will probably shock (and I'm sure outrage you) that most banks are open on Columbus Day as well.
@ Linda- Just because you don't like someone it doesn't mean they are a communist. As others have pointed out most presidents have had a mistress as well. Should we stop celebrating their accomplishments because they were womanizers as well? Or is it OK because they were all white until recently?
Also, enough with the conspiracy theories that the election was thrown. You have no proof except for some very fringe right wing bloggers who also have no proof. The sooner you move on the happier you will be.


Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013
Article comment by: Out Of Towner

Where is that bank in Kingman? I'll be going there on Presidents Day and will stop in and open an account and congratulate them for being open on a so-called holiday.

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013
Article comment by: Just Wonderin'

Anybody ever read the Emancipation Proclamation? It only applied to the states that were still in rebellion against the Union. It did not include Northern or borer states, and Tennessee wasn't mentioned. Slavery was going out anyway, Lincoln didn't abolish it himself.

Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013
Article comment by: Capt. Nice

Jimi Lightfoot
I enjoy your writing even tho some of it I don't understand due to your excellant wit.
I would like to add about your first Black man as a slave owner that most people forget is that if the south had won the civil war, we would have had slavery for many more years at least in the south....and the Blacks vote democrat, who can figure?


Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: Great Presidents

Those two great presidents were both womanizers and had mistresses. Other presidents had them also. Keep that bank open.

Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

Roger,

MLK Day and President's day are both Federal holidays. Post offices, the NYSE, and schools are all closed on both days.

Your problem is with the individual bank branch manager OR the bank policy if it's a national franchise, that has set a policy to be open on President's day.

While I agree with you that it's important to honor our past presidents, calling this "disgusting" is a bit much.

Figure out what really happened here and ask the appropriate people first if you're so upset!

@mr. parker

History lesson - Lincoln's birthday was never a Federal holiday. Washington's has been one since 1879.

In 1951 a committee tried to make another Federal holiday for all presidents on March 4th and add Lincoln's birthday as another Federal holiday. The Senate Judiciary Committee decided that having 3 holidays so close together would be a "burden" - based largely on lost wages and productivity. This was the same logic that held back MLK day for 30 years, a simple cost-benefit analysis.

"Presidents Day" is actually just Washington's birthday, standardized to the third Monday in Feb. BUT individual states have different laws stating different names.

Incidentally, I've explained previously that some states do call MLK day "Civil Rights Day" or by other names. For some reason AZ's legislators weren't smart enough to think of that in 1993, so you should take that up with AZ politicians who dropped the ball there.

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Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: Kent Peterson

@ Desert Angel
I agree with you on the respect. In fact I think there should be a general respect for the office of the President period. It seems in the last 10 years there has been a general disrespect for the President. It started by the liberals and Democrats against President Bush and now has continued with conservatives and the Republicans against President Obama. Can’t we all agree that rather you agree or disagree with the policies of the person the office should deserve the up most respect. The general disrespect that I’ve seen for the office is the same as spiting on the flag and calling a soldier coming home from war a “baby killer.”
In 2005 I got a chance to see President Bush and had a chance to see President Obama in 2010. In both instances I pulled my kids out of school and took them because it’s a hands on education lesson to see the office up close and personal. Just as my dad did when he pulled me out school to see President Reagan.
I remember my son asked me about the metal detector, I had to explain to him the history of the Secret Service and pointing out all the agents. At the end of the day he told me he wanted to grow up to become a secret service agent and protect the President.


Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

Just asking, but how many years does someone have to be dead before you can use a cartoon characterization of them to advertise "Big Sales!" and "Incredible Bargains!"? Or will MLK forever be immune from that?

But hey, he does have major streets with his name in big cities. And it always lets you know where the high crime areas to avoid are in most of them.


Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: David Gaither

Banks are closed wrote:

"P.S. How convenient to mention Martin Luther King day. Why not say New Years Day, or 4th of July? We all know the reason."

How very clever of you to "decode" Mr. Buck's message! Mr. Buck was not being "cryptic" with his message at all. Only liberals would read it that way!

BTW...Abe Lincoln was known to be of African descent and would not deny it, so you see, us white-conservatives are capable of honoring all people that do good for this country. How about the liberals??


Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@Banks are Closed

I was also wondering which one because it was surprising that a bank would be open on Presidents Day.

BUT- the race card??? Really??? That is really getting old and we all see through it so give it a rest.

Washington, Lincoln, and King are all people. New Years and 4th of July are events. I think that Roger was asking why we honor King on his birthday but not Washington and Lincoln on the day set aside to celebrate theirs. It is a reasonable question.

Roger never said that it was wrong to honor King, he simply asked why the bank was no longer honoring the 2 great presidents, (one of whom abolished slavery by the way).


Posted: Saturday, February 9, 2013
Article comment by: Open Bank

Banks should be open every day including Sunday. If grocery stores, gas stations, hardware stores, pharmacies and stores in malls are open, why not banks. How would you like it if you were traveling across the country on a so-called holiday or a sunday and all of the gas stations were locked up?

Posted: Saturday, February 9, 2013
Article comment by: David Rogers

Looks like you are old and white. Grow up and try to make a positive impact on this community!!!!

Posted: Saturday, February 9, 2013
Article comment by: Marla Kiriakidis

Disgust? Really? Why would you expect anyone to honor our past Presidents seeing how they can't honor our recent or current ones.

Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Patriot WES

Maybe they don't want to honor the worst president ever that is in the office now!

Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Obama's numbers have plummeted now that he has been re-elected. Down to 46% on Quinnepiac polls.

And speaking of re-election, most of us understand the five states obama needed were thrown to get him in again. Proof is starting to come out.

As libs constantly told us fraud in voting was as rare as lighning striking twice, well it is striking all over Cincinnati, Ohio - the most important state in the election.

The Hamilton County Bd of Elections is investigating 19 cases of alleged voter fraud with nine witnesses as part of the probe.

And that is only the beginning.

Meanwhile, Democrat Melowese Richardson has been an official poll worker there for the last 25 years. She has registered literally thousands of people.

This week, she very candidly admitted to Cincinnati's Channel 9 that she voted twice in this last election. So by law, she should serve a jail term, right? And if you think she was the only one, guess again.


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Dittos Roger! In fact, we only celebrate one of the two greatest POTUS's birthdays, the other one was thrown out. I can't remember which we now celebrate - or don't celebrate as the case is here.

MLK was no Washington and he was no Lincoln. Did some things people liked, not even in the same calibre as the other two however, certainly not worthy of a national holiday. MLK was a known communist and womanizer. That hardly goes along with being a great man in America.

The womanizing comes from Abernathy who got tired of covering up for him.


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Desert Angel

I agree. There should be respect for past Presidents who made this country great.

Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Jimi Lightfoot

I agree with Mr. Buck.

Today’s “President’s Day” is getting ever closer to being identified as “Precedent’s Day.”

A shedding of America’s true fathers and values, to be replaced by the worship of celebrities and legislation giving fringe groups, extremist elements and inanimate objects superfluous rights.

As one “right” is won they seek the next domino to topple.

Can we see in our upside down future the burning of coal as a hate crime? Not only for its “evil and noxious” fumes but will it be a future identified “carbon based life form?”

I have an understanding of the liberal’s guilty need to get away from the reality of the slave owning whiteness of the Founding Fathers.

I don’t advocate it. To advocate it means to condemn the whole man and his life’s work on what was the norm at the time. To advocate it causes the true history to be modified into current “acceptable” standards, turning turn true history into a fairy tale.

MLK’s extramarital dalliances are well documented. Do we condemn the man in whole and abolish him to the foot notes of history? Do we discard this fact or do we accept it along with the whole man and all his achievements.

The non-delusional accept true history, warts and all.

Take the whole person, without politically correct editing and judge their works versus their flaws and that’s how history should judge them.

In 1654 Anthony Johnson sued indentured servant John Casor and his employer Robert Parker for Casor’s return to servant hood. The Northampton Court ruled in 1655, that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. Anthony Johnson’s case set the precedent for owning slaves legally in America.

Johnson was the first documented slave owner in America.

Johnson was a black man.

Not PC but true history.


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: mr. parker

When I was a kid, we always got Lincoln's Birthday Feb. 12 and Washington's Birthday Feb. 22 off.
Then it became President's Day, which most schools stay open. This is an insult.
MLK's birthday holiday should be changed to Civil Rights Day, honoring all people who fought for civil rights. Keep it in January to honor King but he wasn't the only civil rights pioneer.
Then either give both days off or none.


Posted: Friday, February 8, 2013
Article comment by: Banks are closed

I`m calling baloney on this one! Please tell us which bank this is.

P.S. How convenient to mention Martin Luther King day. Why not say New Years Day, or 4th of July? We all know the reason.




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