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3/12/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: I like living in Kingman

I'm sure the majority of people in Mohave County love to live here! Then there are people who have nothing positive to say about Kingman.

Now I do not agree with everything the city and county does, but there is a lot to like here. For example, each summer the golf course has about 150 to 200 kids learn about golf. This teaches them discipline and good sportsmanship. There's also Pop Warner football, soccer and little league. Also, there are adult league basketball, softball, etc.

Now about costs ... if you get rid of everything that doesn't pay for itself, there would be no street department, police department, fire department, parks department, including all of the city parks and programs and golf course. Then we would never have any future growth or future!

So for all you people who have nothing good to say about the city, the highways go north, south, east and west, so get on one and leave! That way the majority of the people will be much happier living here.

By the way, that majority needs to speak up more. I would love to hear good stories about living here.

I have been involved in different parts of the city. I was a part-time parks ranger at the park and the golf course. I also served on the Kingman Golf Commission for almost 14 years. I was involved in the Kingman Golf Association at the golf course. I like living in Kingman.

Bob Wyman

Kingman




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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013
Article comment by: Bob D

I just wanted to put in my 2 cents about the cost of living in Kingman. I moved here 6 years ago from the Socialist Republic of California and can tell you that your costs are far less.My property taxes are less than half, car insurance is half, vehicle registration half, ultiliies less than half, traffic nil, freedom: priceless. If you wanted something to whine about, try living in So. Cal. for a while and you will be glad to get back here.My water bill is the worst thing here, but I'll take it because everything else is worth it.

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Proud Kingmanite I find those who whine period whether it be about how unhappy they are about a endless number of things, whose in white house, whose getting welfare, whose not voting their way, etc. the list is endless but ironically your like the pot calling the kettle black! When I read something I do not like I ignore it, and tend to not read anything from that poster do you not have control over your eyes, ears? As to the unhappy whiners of where they live likely they cannot afford to move or are afraid of leaving their family, friends no matter how unhappy they are in Kingman, but guess one has to have a independent spirit to live free some just do not have it they tend to pay lip service to freedom!

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

heck, maybe I'll move back to Kingman. Web cam the place throughout, arm myself to the teeth within (and be carrying always when out and about, and willing to use it). What's the worst that can happen?

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Proud Kingmanite

You know, I've often wondered myself why if someone doesn't like where they live...they don't just MOVE. Frankly, I get tired of hearing them whine like a bunch of weenies every time you read the commentary on threads like this.

The truth is, I moved out here years ago because I didn't like the city I lived in. It was not at all like it was when I was growing up, so...I sold my house and I moved. Simple as that.

In America we are still free (for now) to make a choice to live here, or California, or New York, or Alaska...or heck, try a foreign country if you like, but why stay here and complain all the time when you can just hit the road. Sure, it'll take some planning, you probably ought to have a job lined-up (since most applications are done online anyway nowadays) before you go, but it's not as difficult as living in misery in a place where you are so discontent.

If I ever end up NOT liking Kingman...you can bet I'll be planning my next exodus, not wasting so much time whining about how much I hate it.


Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Life is what you make it

In the ten years that I've lived in Kingman, I've sometimes wondered why some people here can find nothing good to say about it. We have a pleasant climate with four moderate seasons, we're surrounded by beautiful mountains with great hiking trails (especially in the Hualapais, but also in the Cerbats), and we have a friendly, small-city feeling while still being within an easy drive to Las Vegas and other cities. Despite the comments that a couple of people have made here, I personally find most of the people in Kingman to be very friendly and pleasant. Just like anywhere else, you get out of a place what you put into it. As the old saying goes, "Smile and the whole world smiles with you."

Posted: Friday, March 22, 2013
Article comment by: Randi Grogan-Musante

Is Kingman the best city to live in? Many like myself moved here because we bought property. We have a lack luster Mayor who likes to have photos taken doing absolutely nothing. He doesn't fight for those who live in this city. The electric here is UNBELIEVABLE, it's DOUBLE what I paid in Encino, CA, it's more than our two homes combined in Portland, Oregon and Seattle, Washington. At least the Mayor and Governors of those three other States fight for their constituents, Mr. Salem and Jan (finger in the face) Brewer does not!

Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Poor Linda, Barney Fife or Don Knotts and Andy Griffith were actors, yes very likely liberal, democrats but how that relates to your high fuel/heating bills is a mystery! I imagine in your world of conspiracies and birtherism some how Obama has singled you and your family out for high costs of living! Reality is your beloved republicans have historically twice ruined the American economy once under Herbert Hoover and second time under George Bush Jr.! Keep on blaming whom ever helps you get through your days, nights!

Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013
Article comment by: Arthur Arrey

The cost of living here is not the problem! its the way this city is run! this town is geared for those who run it and not for those who live in it! For instance and this is only one of many, the monster truck show that used to come through here and I loved taking my kids there! I was a nice and inexpensive night for the whole family! but the people who lived around the fair grounds complained it was too loud so the monster truck show is no more! Now if I remember right the fairgrounds have been in the same place! Why did these people move near the fairgrounds if they dont like the noise! they can move or buy some earplugs! And now I hear they want the rodeo gone? Its time for a change here in town and a new way of thinking!

Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013
Article comment by: Another Thought

@ Just Saying So Doesn't Make It So

Exactly why I didn't bother with a response. They'll never be able to provide the numbers and when they do, they will be fudged!


Posted: Thursday, March 21, 2013
Article comment by: Just Saying So Doesn't Make It So

Optimist. Funny those arguments are always thrown around by golf course supporters. And in the past those of us wanting to privatize it have asked for hard numbers. We're still waiting.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@ Another Thought
Lol...that's funny. You ARE kidding right?

The air show? Talk about catering to a very small number of people! And how exactly would that benefit the city? The sales tax from the vendors? Very few people go to large air shows both days they are normally held. Since our airport can't accommodate most military aircraft, that cuts a lot of interest. People will go to Nellis or Yuma if they want a good show. Oh...and you realize the air show is put on by private entities?

And the fair? Every year there are dozens of comments on the cost of rides, foods, and trinkets...as well as the parking and general fairground conditions. If I remember correctly people with 2 or 3 kids were paying something like $100++ for an afternoon at the fair....blame the Fair committee...not the City. You want the government to somehow subsidize those expenses? And let's not forget...that's county...not city.

Let's talk street drags...again put on by private parties. That actually attracts people from all over who stay in town for 2-3 days and spend plenty. No Gov subsidy...but last year Gov (KUSD) wouldn't let them use the LWHS parking...so it was cancelled.

I just don't understand why you apparently dislike golfers so much. Last I checked...everyone who goes to play a round, pays for the privilege. Also, non-residents (outside KUSD limits) pay over double the local rate. Sounds like a win to me, unlike parks, airshows, or street drags which can be utilized/viewed/participated in (to some extent) w/o paying.

Btw...the bond for the course expansion (approved by voters, don't forget) is payed off in 2014. If it got a majority of votes..it would seem like a majority of people want to see it maintained.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Another Thought Coming

"I think our tax dollars would be better used to subsidize the citizens in area's where it helps a larger portion of the population, you know, things like a decent airshow that's worth the outrageous prices or how about the County fair. I'd bet there are more people wishing they could attend those events than there are for the few select elite in the community."

Well, using City funds for a County fair would be difficult at best.

As to your idea, I don't go to the air show or the fair anyway, so why should my taxes be spent on those. I also seldom go golfing, but when I do, it is not at Cerbat, but I do see the need for keeping it here and open.

I guess what I am saying is who should decide what the funds are used for?


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Another Thought

@ V Stokes

I think our tax dollars would be better used to subsidize the citizens in area's where it helps a larger portion of the population, you know, things like a decent airshow that's worth the outrageous prices or how about the County fair. I'd bet there are more people wishing they could attend those events than there are for the few select elite in the community.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: California Refugee

Glad to read these comments. I am in the process of moving to Kingman from Northern LA County, CA and chose Kingman because the weather is almost the same here as in The foot hills in N. LA Co.
I did research and the COL in Kingman is about 12% below the US norm. N.LA C0. is about 20% above or more. I am retired and I know I can live cheaper in Kingman than in CA. Lots of pluses in AZ too.
The Inmates in Sacramento are now in charge of the Asylum and things will get worse , that is the main reason I am getting out of CA.
This topic has been good to read. Pros and Cons. Keep it up.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Our Sheriff is not Barney Fife …”

That’s true, because Barney always upheld the law and didn’t go on his “feelings” about which laws he liked or didn’t like.

“And yes, my gas bill was $300,…”

Still don’t believe it and as FLS has told me multiple times I call BS on that one.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: HAPPY HERE

When I first came here 15 years ago,my main goal in life was to save money to leave here.When I had enough money to go,I realized I had made a life here and love it here.People need to count there blessings.Where else can you live that does not have torandos,earthquakes,floods or some other kind of natural desaster? It snows just enough to be pretty and goes away.close to mountains,river,and lake.Great place for hiking.close to Vegas and laughlin.Also alot of history here.You need to explore it.Life is expensive and things have went up.HELLO that is everywhereI would rather pay for gas here than alot of other places.Alot of shopping is done online these days.Hmmm....maybe part of why we don't see alot of new shopping business.overhead I am sure is much cheaper.Life is what you make of it and I choose to look at it in a positive manner.

Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: STUART VARON

I LOVE KINGMAN !!! ITS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND IT WAS THE TOP OF THE LIST WHEN I MOVED HERE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO..MY MIND HASENT CHANGED..IT COST ABOUT THE SAME TO LIVE ELSE WERE, IT ALL DEPENDES ON HOW YOU LIVE AND WHAT YOU WANT YOUR LIFE TO BE LIKE..I DONT BELIEVE IN THE POLITICAL VIEWS OF MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO
LIVE HERE, BUT I LEAVE THEM WITH THERE OPINIONS, AND WOULD NOT LIVE ANY WHERE ELSE!!!!!


Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

One problem:

Our Sheriff is not Barney Fife - would be better if he were since Andy Griffith was a left winger, something our Sheriff is decidedly NOT.

And yes, my gas bill was $300, is not quite that high now but around Dec, Jan it is very high. I am looking at last months where I kept the heater low and it is $130. My Uncle lived only three blocks from me, was in his 90's, lived alone and while visiting, he showed me his was $400 about three years ago.

His family, as I had done, repeatedly contacted the gas company and were told the bills were correct. Both of our houses were insulated, gas kept low, good heaters, etc. Go figure.


Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@B Wyman

"Now about costs ... if you get rid of everything that doesn't pay for itself, there would be no street department, police department, fire department, parks department, including all of the city parks and programs and golf course."

We need a fire dept. We need a police dept.
We don't NEED a golf course. You put it right were it belonged on your list of things.......dead last.

And I imagine a significant number of people use local parks. Now what percentage of the population do you think plays golf? Bet there are a larger percentage who think the course should be sold to a private operator.

Here's a thought, get together with a bunch of your golfing bddies and make an offer for it. Why should the public subsidize your silly hobby?



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Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@ Another Thought
Well...it was a gas bill being discussed....and I do know a thing or two about what a normal bill should be for a normal household. Even if I had 3 kids here and was doing more laundry and more showers...it wouldn't approach $300...especially with the improvements LA stated. There was an error or a problem somewhere. If it were an electric bill in an all electric house...it might be more understandable.

As to the golf course....my retired neighbor and my ex neighbor and his daughter all play. They are not County or City officials. I often see people that are no way, shape, or form city or county officials walking up to the course with bags and 6 clubs over their shoulders. Our school teams play there. They hold charity events there. I see it as an asset.

When you buy a car on a loan...does your household income not drop for a period of time? When the school floats a bond for expansion of some sort....does your tax bill not go up? When a business gets a loan to expand...does there bottom line not decrease til the loan is paid off?

After that, it seems like a windfall in all cases as the money is no longer going out, but you still have what you paid for.

Heck...with your reasoning...why have parks, baseball diamonds, or city pools...I don't use them so they must be a waste of money...right? Go look at the cost of the golf course vs the cost of all the parks and recreation stuff. Tell me which would save more money if they were closed down.


Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: Another Thought

@ V Stokes

" No way you had a $300 bill unless there was an error of some sort."

I'm glad you are aware of what a normal electric bill should be. Your normal though is not everyone's. I have been here for 8 years and a $300 utility bill is about normal for me year round. Now I don't know how many kids you have, grand children, but I will bet in about 4 years my electric bill will take a deep dip as the kids start flying the coup.


Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: trained observer

Nice to see something more upbeat in the paper. Kingman isn't perfect but its a lot better than many other places. Interesting that Linda found the utilities and other costs to be higher than where she lived before. Moving here cut those costs for me by about 1/2 and my winter heating bill has never been more than about $150 per month.

Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013
Article comment by: Utility Bills

I have lived in both Vegas and California. Both houses in those other states had gas and electric. Gas bill in either state wasn't too bad but the electricity was ridiculous. In Cali, electric in summer was usually at least 250.00 a month and in Vegas was more like 400.00 a month. Here in Kingman in summer we run ac day and night and keep the house between 70 and 72 degrees. My bill has never even hit 200.00 a month. Definitely electric is cheaper here. Water and sewer though that is a different story! The city of Kingman rapes us.

Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013
Article comment by: Another Thought

@ V Stokes

As I said, who's paying for it in the mean time? "TAXPAYERS"! Why should we pay for the City and County Officials to play golf? How long has the TAXPAYERS been covering the cost? Don't you think there are other area of Kingman that could use the money? How about Valle Vista? Shut this one down and send the to Valle Vista!


Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@LA
"First year, my gas bill and I keep the heat very low at night was over $300 a month for a not huge house"

You say "first year" so I'm assuming you meant first year you moved back here. That would have been a few years ago at least? No way you had a $300 bill unless there was an error of some sort. Prices never go down only up. We have a total gas house (heat, range, WH, dryer), 1700sf and in the coldest months our bill is about $175 max... and my wife likes it warm. Thats with 2-3 showers a day, a load of clothes each day and at least a load of dishes every other day.



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