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9/24/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Obama's hostages

As you read this, 30 American citizens have been held hostage and incommunicado for more than one year. Not in Russia, or China, or in Africa. No, in the United States.

This must be a fairy tale. Nothing like this could happen in our country: land of free speech, assembly, and the free press. Such an event would spark outrage. But, you would be wrong to assume that conclusion.

Who, how, why? Only President Obama, because of the power and authority of his office, could direct that 30 survivors of the Benghazi massacre should become victims of his (Obama's) wrath to further a cover-up of what really transpired on Sept. 11, 2012, in Benghazi.

This is a heinous crime perpetrated at the highest level, and by the president.

Nothing is more important than freeing these hostages, impeaching and convicting Obama, and jailing him for trial on the charge of "kidnapping" and extracting the ransom of "silence" from these American citizens.

Much wrongdoing has occurred during Obama's presidency, but this hostage-taking is beyond the pale. This is beyond politics!

Tom Trussell

Golden Valley


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Reader Comments

Posted: Saturday, October 12, 2013
Article comment by: tj denton

just reading through the comments...you have all lost it. most of the republicans on here just copy and paste stuff from glenn beck and most of the democrats whine uncontrollably with no common sense. (delete) I cant understand what point you are trying to make half the time and (delete) leans so far left you would think he had a stroke. You all need to just have some common sense. obama is a horrible president, bush was a horrible president. we get it, now quit crying and MOVE ON!!!!! we can pray in schools and i can have my assault rifles and liberals can drink their latte's and keep blaming everyone for their first world problems...are we all happy now???

Posted: Wednesday, October 9, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

"The section of clause giving power to detain citizens was challenged in court and the federal court issued an injunction to stop it.

Obama appealed that decision.

Doesn't sound like the poor little president was being forced, against his will, sign the bill granting him the power to detain citizens just so the military would be paid."

Must be why McCain and Graham admitted they put it there, right?

Obama appealing it was wrong, though, yes.


Posted: Wednesday, October 9, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@ Nice Chuckle

"Amazing that it happened. Since it was McCain and Graham who put the detention clause in the bill. Obama was forced to sign it basically, since it contained payment authorization for the military."

Actually, the original verbiage of the detention clause exempted US citizens from being detained. Obama requested that the words that exempted US citizens from detention be removed. It was Obama who asked for and willingly signed for the indefinite detention of US citizens.

When it became public knowledge that the bill gave the President this power, Obama made a speech claiming that he would not abuse the power, (said the cat to the canary).

The section of clause giving power to detain citizens was challenged in court and the federal court issued an injunction to stop it.

Obama appealed that decision.

Doesn't sound like the poor little president was being forced, against his will, sign the bill granting him the power to detain citizens just so the military would be paid.


Posted: Wednesday, October 2, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Stories abound - here is but one of dozens.

>>>
By Eli Lake and Audrey Hudson
-
The Washington Times
Thursday, April 16, 2009

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S.

But the top House Democrat with oversight of the Department of Homeland Security said in a letter to Ms. Napolitano that he was “dumbfounded” that such a report would be issued.

“This report appears to raise significant issues involving the privacy and civil liberties of many Americans - including war veterans,” said Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, in his letter sent Tuesday night.

The letter was representative of a public furor over the nine-page document since its existence was reported in The Washington Times on Tuesday.

Everytime you say "where do you get this nonsense" you are proven wrong. Perhaps a good idea would be to quit questioning those of us who have actual facts and can back them up. OR - you could do a little research yourself before calling it nonsense. That would be what I would do.


Posted: Wednesday, October 2, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

The "utter nonsense" about returning soldiers being on potential terrorist watchlists comes from Napolitanos Homeland Security Ofc.

Speaking of Napolitano, another cutie of hers. Another Issa Oversight Committee on EPA employee John Beale. In 1981, Beale was signed off and got a retention bonus for three years (stating he'd been offered another job - EPA paid him to stay). Only he continued to get it for over 20 years, not three, totaling over $800,000.00 One signing off also owned a home w/Beale, had good reason for Beale to keep getting it as he sold Beale his part of the home..

The real kicker, Beale told EPA he was also a CIA undercover operative, a total lie. NOONE EVER EVEN CHECKED, kept paying him full pay and retention money even though years would go by without him ever showing up for work. He would e-mail, saying he was in Pakistan. Cell phone showed, no, upper NY State.

Finally suspect, the IG started investigating, EPA advised DHS. Napolitano forewarned Beale he was under investigation. He quickly retired with full retirement benefits, now refuses to even talk. The IG is very disturbed, complicated his job.

Thanks Janet. 197wc


Posted: Tuesday, October 1, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Did you fight in Afghanistan? Your Dad, your brother? Are they back home? Know that obama has them on a potential terrorist watchlist with DHS.”

Utter nonsense – as always. Where do you come up with this


Posted: Monday, September 30, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

"en. Carl Levin, D-MI, said the Obama administration specifically asked senators for the power to permanently detain American citizens without trial "

Amazing that it happened. Since it was McCain and Graham who put the detention clause in the bill. Obama was forced to sign it basically, since it contained payment authorization for the military.


Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

You Don't Say:

The National Defense Authorization Bill (NDAA) has been passed 51 times, not twice. It funds the military. Problems with it under obama.

Sen. Carl Levin, D-MI, said the Obama administration specifically asked senators for the power to permanently detain American citizens without trial and to “REMOVE THE LANGUAGE LAWFUL RESIDENTS WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THIS SECTION." THAT is scary!

That means, obama asked that even American Citizens would be subject to indefinite incarceration, were they listed on any government "potential terrorist" list.

Janet Napolitano/Homeland Security, put pro-lifers, those w/single issues such as abortion/immigration, anyone who might oppose obama and returning soldiers all on the "POTENTIAL TERRORIST" list. Peaceful pro-life demonstrators are already on FBI watch lists.

Did you fight in Afghanistan? Your Dad, your brother? Are they back home? Know that obama has them on a potential terrorist watchlist with DHS.

Diane Feinstein D/CA-Mike Lee/R/UT-Rand Paul R/KY submitted Lee/Feinstein amendment protecting citizens - while it is something, it doesn't go far enough.




Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“After your blistering blabber about Ted Cruz and his citizenship and you support this Obama guy......what a hypocrite!”

Really?” Blistering blabber” is what you call the truth? Please correct any errors in the following – Canada (aka Rafael) Ted was born in Canada. Canada (aka Rafael) Ted has a Canadian birth certificate. Canada (aka Rafael) Ted was born in a “socialist” medical facility. Canada (aka Rafael) Ted’s father is a Cuban Communist.

As to President Obama – he was born in the United States and has an American (Hawaiian) birth certificate. I might suggest you read my blog “A Trip To Birtherville for a better understanding of the facts.

Thank you for playing.


Posted: Saturday, September 28, 2013
Article comment by: Oh Ya

"He was unaware he had dual citizenship"

I can understand a child not knowing they are adopted, or not knowing who their biological parents are, but not knowing he was a Canadian? Pleaseeee! Did he just wake up one morning and say, WOW! I better make sure I'm am pure American, I might get a chance to run for POTUS someday. NOT!


Posted: Saturday, September 28, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

“Bob Moore: By your own belief, obama is an American citizen by virtue of his Mother being an American citizen.”

Yep, along with his being born in Hawaii.

“Using your same nonsense would also make Ted Cruz an American citizen.”

So you are now claiming Canada (aka Rafael) Ted is not a citizen because what I have said is “nonsense.” Got it.

“By YOUR OWN belief, that would make Ted an American citizen.”

I have never said that Canada (aka Rafael) Ted is NOT a citizen of the United States. I have said that he was born in Canada – and has a Canadian Birth Certificate to prove it - to a Cuban Communist father and holds dual citizenship.

“He was unaware he had dual citizenship,…”

Yeah that Canadian Birth Certificate he has had all of his life wasn’t a clue he wasn’t born in the U.S. That alone should be a red flag as to how bright this clown is.

“Case closed!!”

Nope, for over five years we have put up with birthers screaming ridiculous nonsense regarding the presidents birth status and now suddenly the very points you have used to discredit Obama are all right?


Posted: Friday, September 27, 2013
Article comment by: Capt. Nice

A.N.
After your blistering blabber about Ted Cruz and his citizenship and you support this Obama guy......what a hypocrite!


Posted: Friday, September 27, 2013
Article comment by: You Don't Say

"Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, permanently detaining US citizens without trial"

Very nice tap dance and cherry picking. Now for some other facts. Up until 2006, there was never a need for a National Defense Authorization Act by any other President. Bush had to have it and signed it in 2007 making it a Bush project and making it easier for the President to declare martial law. Now why would he be worried about that? Was it because he finally realized his lies were getting ready to be exposed and maybe feared the American people?


Posted: Friday, September 27, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

" So what Ted Cruz has Dual citizenship, Ob doesn't and you do realize I'm sure that Hawaii became a state less than a year before he was born and the stated hospital of his birth wasn't even built yet at the time of his birth!"

This poster needs to step away from chain emails and WND. First, Hawaii became a state in August of 1959. Obama was born in August of 1961. I do believe that is more than 1 year LOL.

As to the hospital, that myth was debunked long ago. Do your research.


Posted: Friday, September 27, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Bob Moore:

By your own belief, obama is an American citizen by virtue of his Mother being an American citizen.

Using your same nonsense would also make Ted Cruz an American citizen. His Mother was an American citizen living/working in Canada with Ted's Father. She was never a Canadian citizen, simply an American working for a time in another country, in the oil industry they also worked/owned in Texas.

By YOUR OWN belief, that would make Ted an American citizen.

He was unaware he had dual citizenship, when he found out, he did what was necessary to decline Canadian citizenship.

Case closed!!


Posted: Friday, September 27, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“So what Ted Cruz has Dual citizenship,…”

Makes him ineligible to run for president.

“Ob doesn't and you do realize I'm sure that Hawaii became a state less than a year before he was born…”

Who is “Ob” and what doesn’t he … uhh, have, want, need, require, demand, seek? And so Hawaii being admitted to the Union TWO YEARS (try to be accurate) before he was born impacts Obama how?

“Ted Cruz at least has the gall and guts and lack of intimidation …”

Cruz is a grandstanding moron and why any of the birthers would support this guy is just flat-out amazing. A Canadian – complete with birth certificate – born in a “socialist” medical facility to a Cuban Communist father. Holy cow!

It is actually funny to watch the birthers keep spinning their nonsense while backing a guy not born in this country. What a laff riot!


Posted: Friday, September 27, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, permanenty detaining US citizens without trial - already defined as potential terrorists including by Homeland Security.

John Whitehead, Founder/Rutherford Institute says it allows Obama to state what groups w/no oversight. Sen Levin, D-MI said Obama specifically asked Senators for power to permanently detain Americans/no trial - asked "to remove language which says US citizens/lawful residents would not be subject to this section". Adds "enemy territory can be anywhere".

Add Napolitano/DHomeland Security added pro-lifers as potential domestic terrorists to DHS list. Some already listed w/FBI. FBI/DHS trained together to monitor pro-life websites. 2009, issued DHS report entitled "Rightwing Extremism: ...Radicalization/Recruitment...groups dedicated to single issue - abortion/immigration". ALSO anyone "antagonistic toward the new POTUS...or his perceived stance on range of issues".

Even Maddow was stunned - they removed report, only to then have terrorist training hosted by Planned Parenthood, Natl Abortion Fed, etc...equated free speech and distributing literature as violence.

Listed as potential extremist websites were Priests for Life, National Right to Life, American Life League, Concerned Women for America, Human Life International, American Center for Law and Justice, Christian Broadcasting Network.


Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

(delete) So what Ted Cruz has Dual citizenship, Ob doesn't and you do realize I'm sure that Hawaii became a state less than a year before he was born and the stated hospital of his birth wasn't even built yet at the time of his birth!
Ted Cruz at least has the gall and guts and lack of intimidation to stand against the left wing liberals who believe they are above the law they try to impose upon the of the people!
Keep kissing their feet and singing praises to them, YOU deserve them!!


Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: Nancy Rodriguez

(delete) Yes, Obama was elected and re-elected, simply because of his skin color. How racist is that? You should truly be ashamed of your insensitive statement about Benghazi!

Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

When I left the Philippines in 1975, I had to sign one of these documents, under threat of 10 years in federal prison if I disclosed my duties I preformed at Subic Bay Naval Base as a young US Marine, I did not see myself as a hostage, must be strange how times change and patriotism means something different to folks today, especially some who never served one day in any military!

Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

"Search FEMA 2013 - follow it around. Forewarned is always forearmed, no matter what is going on and we do know, with obama, it's never good."

Wow, it sure looks like it is time to step away from Glenn Beck and WND, take off that tin foil hat and live a normal life.


Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: You Missed It

Linda failed to mention the Prisoner trains that are stationed all over the U.S. Yes, prisoner trains with shackles welded into the walls, no windows. I think those are reserved for members of Congress.

Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“My children say they can't find bullets for their guns.

They need to go to a place that sells ammunition and not the 7/11.

“There are FEMA camp rumors and pictures countrywide, videos of black helicoptors, police doing unannounced training sessions in downtown streets, scaring people.”

All debunked each time this nonsense has been posted over the past five years. Every five or six months you show up with this garbage. Why do you insist upon repeating this trash? BTW – where are the “FEMA camp” pictures? I’ve asked for years and no one has ever produced them.

“Martial law is mentioned, so is October 2013.”

Yeah, yeah! Hyperbolic nonsense. The righties did it with Clinton and with Obama in 2011 and now they’re doing it again. What a bunch of fools.

“Also huge amounts of coffins in several states. Government owned. For what purpose?”

The “government” has always stockpiled coffins in the event of a major disaster. More trash, as usual.

“I am no conspiracy theorist…”

All of the above would point to exactly the opposite.

“…with obama, it's never good.”

Obama won – twice – my large margins – deal with it.


Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: Roy Leggett

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Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2013
Article comment by: You Don't Say


"My children say they can't find bullets for their guns."

Most children cannot find things that are right under their noses. However, I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they only own .22's. Other than those though the rest of the ammo is readily available. If your conspiracy theory is that the government and the military are going to force us into martial law by withholding .22 rounds, then that is laughable. If it were me, I'd be after the shotgun shells, .308, and the .223 rounds. Those are the most popular and probably the governments biggest threat. Nice try though.



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