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11/8/2013 6:01:00 AM
Kingmans Letter: President is one of a kind
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With all due respect regarding Speaker Boehner's leadership, Ms. Lori Gabriel-Dane, he is not the "leader of the free world." This president's leadership, or lack thereof, only leads this country to higher debt, more expensive care under the "Affordable" Care Act, which includes downgraded care to older people and death panels by cronies chosen by this administration to do the dirty work of this president.

I will give this president credit for: The first president to have our AAA credit rating downgraded, the only president to disrespect our allies but give high security jobs to those associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, totally disrespect and go out of his way to make things as difficult as he can for our veterans including but not limited to not paying for the funeral of our deceased men and women and death benefits to their families.

He does, however, lead in: Highest number of golf games ever played by any president, 18 vacations in his 5 years as president, almost $7 trillion in debt over the same timeframe, constant campaigning regardless of what is going on in the Middle East. Benghazi and four dead Americans come to mind.

Yes, this president is one of a kind; thank God when 2016 rolls around.

Sam Wise

Kingman

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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"You never stated anything that proved most Southern slave owners were land owners was incorrect."

I never said most slaveowners were not landowners. I said that most landowners in the south were not slaveowners.

Poor white in the south that had a few acres to live on and grow enough to feed his family could not afford slaves, or even one slave. Or do you really think the majority of landowners in the south all had huge plantations?

LOL


Posted: Friday, November 22, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

FLS
You proved nothing wrong. You never stated anything that proved most Southern slave owners were land owners was incorrect. Matter of fact you proved nothing correct either. Even your two quoted statements don't agree with each other. One says 1 in 4 (25%) of Southerners, the other says 4.8% of Southern whites. So I guess the majority of Southern Slave owners were other than white? Somehow that doesn't ring true now does it?

You did quote about the NO black slave owners, which was completely off subject.

Btw...you may want to do a little research on Robert M Grooms before using him as a source. Unless of course you agree with the views of the publications that often reference him and that he has written for. Things like The Barnes Review and Resist dot com. I still can't find for sure if he was the same person in an Indiana prison for life in 1982. The writing styles are similar. And your reference said he is a feelance "living" in Indiana.


Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

I haven't researched slavery of blacks in Mexico or Peru, but living in Tacna for two years 1957-1959, I never saw a black person in Tacna or Lima?? My older sister and I explored all over the town of Tacna and had many Peruvian friends. Just never ever saw a black person. My Mom had a maid but, Inez was Peruvian and was more a caretaker of my younger siblings. She helped some in the house but, Mom did all cooking. Inez stayed with us kids for three weeks in the Tourista Hotel after our house had flooded and Mom had gone to Tocapaula where my Dad was.

Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"It was a supposition."

Does that translate to "I was too lazy to actually look it up"?

"Show me something in those census references you posted that state how many of the Southern families they counted were property owners."

So now, since I was able to use info from the 1860 census to point out that you were wrong, you try to move the goal posts and demand further information. Sorry, do your own homework. And “odds are" you won't even have to hire a grad student.

“that probably means”

Which could also translate to “I was too lazy to look it up.” as well.

"Why try to obfuscate?"

You mean the Black slaveowners part? That was added at the end of the comment, and not put in to obfuscate anything, certainly not anything before it, nor does it. Just an interesting, unusual fact I came across while doing the research. If you could not separate the two (more than they already were) and it was difficult for you to understand (the definition of obfuscate), that seems more like a personal problem, and certainly not my problem.


Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

FLS
Go back and read my original statement..."Odds are you could go back to almost anyone in the South in the 1700-1850s and they were slave owners if they owned property..."

It was a supposition. Notice the "odds are..." at the beginning? The information to prove or disprove it is not readily available to me. I'm not some grad student working from a grant that can go dig through all the original records. Show me something in those census references you posted that state how many of the Southern families they counted were property owners. If approx 1 in 4 families in the South owned slaves (25%), but only 1.25 in 4 families owned property...then that probably means the majority of Southern LAND OWNERS owned slaves. Are those numbers that unreasonable?

I am not stating this as a fact, but as a theory or hypothesis. I'm not a person that will positively state something as fact when I can't be sure (unlike many others on here). No weaseling, just stating a possibility. RE your N.O. info...I never stated white or black in my post...just property (land) owner. Why try to obfuscate?


Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2013
Article comment by: 57 states

I've been an American for 40 years. I've never mistook the 50 states in the Union for 57 Muslim states.



Our president has........


Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013
Article comment by: Jimi Lightfoot

When I saw debates about slavery I had to return to this thread.

I’m going to give some FACTS about the origin of legalized slavery in America.

It’s not debatable, it’s not speculation. It’s fact and still documented in historical court records.

In 1651 John Casor, a black man was sponsored by and became an indentured servant for Anthony Johnson, a wealthy black man, for his passage to America.

After a couple of years Casor pleaded with a local farmer, Robert Parker to save him as he said he’d already worked off his debt.

Incensed at Casor’s slavery, Robert Parker took Casor away and under his wing, gave him employment, for which he was promptly sued by Johnson.

The Northampton Court ruled in 1655, that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely, forever as chattel, property, even his bones, in slavery.

Anthony Johnson’s case set the precedent for owning slaves legally in America.

Johnson was the first documented slave owner in America.

Johnson was a black man.

But you won’t be hearing this story on a Black History Month special.

There’s no profit or power without manipulation of reality.


Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013
Article comment by: Oh Ya

"most are unaware of the fact Mexico and Peru had many, many more black slaves than the US ever did"

Welcome to the school of knowledge that no one cares about!


Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"True, I've seen those numbers,..."

But you went ahead and wrote:

""Odds are you could go back to almost anyone in the South in the 1700-1850s and they were slave owners if they owned property...”

...anyway. Astounding.

"How many of those families were sharecroppers, shop workers, manufacturing workers, etc and owned no land at all?"

How many had small landholdings and could not afford to buy or keep slaves anyway?

And if you asked any of them "Would you rather be a slave" I wonder what they would say.

Too late to try to weasel around it now.

LOL


Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013
Article comment by: a warning .....

@Common Sense....well-written. Check out Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov's speeches online, most of them made during the 1980's. They were absolutely prophetic, as he warned America against placing outspoken homosexuals and leftists in positions of power. This is not a rant.

Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013
Article comment by: Common Sense

With all due respect, LGD, you are absolutely right when you say that Mr. Boehner is not the "leader of the free world." Unfortunately, Mr. Obama is supposed to be and failing miserably. Obama has become the leader of the most destructive group of politicians that I have ever seen in all of my 66 years.

Obama, along with his cohorts Soros and the media, have tried everything to turn the U.S. into a third world country and prevent us maintaining our world leader position. For five+ years, every single word, every single speech, every single action of this president has been to (deliberately?) diminish the U.S. in some way. Republicans/Conservatives have been called every name in the book, has had lies told about them, and have had to contend with false claims of them being unAmerican, anti-women, homophobic, etc, etc.

So please, spare me your outrage. Everything you mentioned in your letter is the conspiracy-laced rants and lies of the DNC, the media, Soros' minions and other Conservative haters out there. If you want to believe these ridiculous lies, that is your right. But don't tell those of us who support our c0untry that we are the "dopes." It is quite the opposite


Posted: Friday, November 15, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

While many white liberals in America hang on to their black guilt, most are unaware of the fact Mexico and Peru had many, many more black slaves than the US ever did, and they had them for many years prior to the US ever getting their first slave ship thanks to England.

We faced our slavery problem and did something about it. Latin America, to this day, still treat darker skinned people, undoubtedly with black blood as lower than them and often darker skinned people in Latin America
live off alone in less populated areas.

Also, Irish people were brought to the US in servitude and were basically treated worse than black slaves. Yes, I have the stories in my Irish Slaves file - one of them could be Grandma.



Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@FLS
True, I've seen those numbers, but notice they aren't broken down by land owners, just by total families. How many of those families were sharecroppers, shop workers, manufacturing workers, etc and owned no land at all?

So 25% of ALL the Southern families owned slaves, but what was the percentage of them that actually owned land? That I haven't found. I'd imagine if they were at all successful and moderately well off (from agriculture) they owned slaves. From what I've read, even small farms that only produced a small amount of cotton and were mostly subsistence, still might own a slave or two. Thats the point I was addressing.


Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"Odds are you could go back to almost anyone in the South in the 1700-1850s and they were slave owners if they owned property...”

Never bet on that.

A search using:

"what percentage of southern property owners had slaves in pre-civil war U.S.?"

Led me to:

"According to the 1860 U.S. census, nearly 4 million slaves were held in a total population of just over 12 million in the 15 states in which slavery was still legal. Of all 1,515,605 families in the 15 slave states, 393,967 held slaves (roughly one in four), amounting to 8% of all American families."

I favor census figures over other links I found

I also found a 1997 article, "Black Slaveowners, Dixie's Censored Subject" based on 1860 census data, where I found this mind-blowing fact about New Orleans and Black slave owners.

"To return to the census figures quoted above, this 28 percent (of free Blacks in N.O.) is certainly impressive when compared to less than 1.4 percent of all American whites and less than 4.8 percent of southern whites. The statistics show that, when free, blacks disproportionately became slave masters.”

Don't tell libs this historical fact, their heads will explode.

LOL


Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

Odds are you could go back to almost anyone in the South in the 1700-1850s and they were slave owners if they owned property...so what? Is everyone related to those people responsible for their actions
of 200 yrs ago?

The point is...?


Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Add… secret homosexual life…”

And you know about this “secret” because ………..?

What ridiculous garbage you post here day after day. You are aware that bearing false witness is a sin?


Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Slaveowner proof…”

I stand corrected, but still not confident of your source. Now, tell us exactly what that has to do with Obama in the context of today’s world? Oh yes, that’s right, nothing.

And I bring that up because when it comes to some rightie you always insist the past does not mean a thing.

Oh and BTW – Obama is still not “half-Arabic.”


Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2013
Article comment by: American Cousin

Linda, what kind of plantation, slave owner, conservative, tea party, racist “hyperbole”….oh….you proved your point and proved me wrong yet again.

Curses!


Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Slaveowner proof:

From census records, genealogical research done by William Addams Reitwiesner, Library of Congress genealogist. Obama's Mothers ancestors were slave owners.

One of Obama's ggggrandfathers, Geo Washington Overall, owned two slaves, recorded in the 1850 census, Nelson Co, KY. Same records show Obama's ggggggMother Mary Duvall, owned two slaves.

The Sun newspaper retraced Reitwiesners work using Kentucky Dept for Libraries and Archives. They found Overall, then 30, owned a 15 year old black female and 25 year old black male. Mary Duvall, his Mother in law, owned a 60 year old black man and 58 year old black woman. (Slaves listed in 1850 census list owner, age, sex and color - not slaves name).

Obama people didn't dispute it, had Bill Burton, campaign spokesman say another fought for the Union in the Civil War. He added, the descendant of a slave owner would come to mary a student from Kenya and produce a son who would grow up to be a POTUS candidate.

Obama's ancestor Mareen Duvall, land owner in Anne Arundel Co, 1600's, estate inventory (1694) lists 18 slaves. (From 1952 family history).


Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2013
Article comment by: Rocky Racoon

As far as Obama being One of a King....what?

You said "One of a Kind?"

Oh...Somebody ought to tell him...


Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Hogwash! Obama is half Arabic…”

Hogwash, he is not. Nor is he Kenyan, a homosexual or the many other ridiculous things you have said about him. Why do you keep posting this trash?

“Saying he is Arabic is certainly not racist, simply the truth.”

Nope, after five years of your saying it, it is still not true. Nor will it be the next twenty times you post it.

“Obama's Mother's family were slave holders.”

And your proof of that is … oh wait, you have no proof, as usual.


Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013
Article comment by: Oh Ya

"President obama had the House and Senate both the first two years in office."

And in 2020, if the GOP can organize a single party and win an election, we'll give them two years to repair all the damage left over from Obama and Clinton years.


Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013
Article comment by: Identity Crisis

"They need to go back to their love of the GOP where they started out during the Civil War."

And GOP would that be? The GOP you have today is nowhere near or resembles the GOP of yester-years. Which GOP, the Moderate GOP, The Conservative, The Tea Party GOP, or the Patriot Action Network? I believe if you wanted to win votes, first you have to have an identity. The "GOP" is broke, come back in 2020 when you have settled your Identity Crisis!


Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

Question for the Mods:

You have to read every one of these comments - you can't just skim them for bad words and let them post....

Does this kind of junk ever get old? Because every letter about anything at all eventually turns into "Democrats are idiots and Obama's the devil/Republicans are Idiots."

Just wondering.

If you want to send an email instead, then please just leave "Question for the mods" in the post and delete the rest.

Thanks!


Posted: Monday, November 11, 2013
Article comment by: David Gaither

As a staunch conservative, I can't believe what I am about to say! BUT, it seems to me that we should just get rid of the debt ceiling altogether OR at least raise it to a very large figure, (if that makes some feel better).

Why have this battle over the debt limit every time we turn around. It just wastes precious time that our politicians should be using to solve our more important issues! After all the squabbling...they just raise it anyway.

The battle they need to fight is the SPENDING problem! Get the politicians out of our pockets and the debt limit will take care of itself!




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