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4/24/2014 6:00:00 AM
Letter: The government's circular logic

Let's see, the feds declare state land off limits to Mr. Bundy because of the endangered tortoise, but the same morons who want the land are killing the tortoises in Las Vegas because there are too many of them.

God help us, and God help Mr. Bundy. We could be next.

Pat McGuckin

Golden Valley




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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2014
Article comment by: Another Thought

"Bundy is about Harry Reid, Al Gore, Goldman Saks, the BLM, Reid shenanigans and a bunch of other Democrats putting in Chinese wind/solar/geothermal plants in this area."

It must be, that's why it is still busting the number of Headline records....Oh, what's that you say, not in the headlines anymore? Must not be true but rather another right wing wishful witch hunt. Why do you continue to defend the bigoted law breaker?


Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: Not Entitled

Unbelievable how anyone can stand up for this guy! And to blame Obama, Harry Reed, and the Democrats, even more pathetic. I guess some people can`t live in a realistic world, but in a Fox News haze!

Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: pl .....

Bundy has finally come out with a credible public statement - undoubtedly crafted with savvy assistance - to allay peoples' concerns about his racial sensitivities and go-it-alone image. It is to be found at, among other websites, The Daily Sheeple's headliner story yesterday. When it comes to criticizing those taking a stand against this government's crimes, remember Albert Einstein's words - "Those who profess to be arbiters of truth are shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods". This government can pass right through Kingman with millions of dollars in film productions (oh, you didn't know?) to render events through their prism and as part of their overall new world order. But history and the hereafter are not subject to their editing. Not if we keep writing, and taking what actions we can. That's why I do what I do.

Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: Marla Kiriakidis

So we pay to feed his cattle and then pay again to eat it? Shouldn't the cost of raising them be on him?

When protesters (OWS) took over public land (parks, capital buildings, sidewalks) those of you defending Bundy called for their arrest. Yet none of them owed us money. I don't care if he a racist. He owes me money. Seize his bank accounts, cattle and whatever else is necessary to pay what is owed. This man isn't some poor rancher. He's just another man that thinks he can do as he pleases, even after he's lost in court repeatedly. But what's worse is how he's played the public. What if someone had accidentally fired a weapon that day? Thankfully we didn't have another Waco.


Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

T C:

Your first story was very understandable.

Bundy is about Harry Reid, Al Gore, Goldman Saks, the BLM, Reid shenanigans and a bunch of other Democrats putting in Chinese wind/solar/geothermal plants in this area. Bundy is the last hold out. It's NOT about grazing fees. Try searching Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and First Solar.

>>In America’s infancy, the Supreme Court of the U S upheld the Founders understanding of federal control over land. Justice Stephen J. Field wrote the majority opinion in Ft Leavenworth RR Co v Lowe (1855) that federal authority over territorial land was “necessarily paramount”. Once the territory was organized as a state, then admitted to the union on equal ground, the state govt assumes sovereignty over federal lands, the federal govt retains only the rights of an “individual proprietor”. This means that the federal government can only exercise general sovereignty over state property if the state legislatures formally grant the federal government the power to do so under the Enclave Clause with the exception of federal buildings (post offices) and military installations. This understanding was reaffirmed in Lessee of Pollard v Hagan (1845), Peroli v Municipality No 1 of the city of New Orleans (1845) and Strader v Graham (1850).<<


Posted: Friday, April 25, 2014
Article comment by: T C

I used to own some pasture land in South Carolina. A friend's boyfriend had some Long Horned cattle that needed a place pasture and graze. I leased my pastures to him and he paid the agreed upon fee at the beginning of each year. One year he failed to maintain the fences as he agreed to do and his bull wondered down the road and started grazing in a neighbor's water melon field. After assuaging the anger of the water melon farmer and getting the bull back to where he belonged, I was told that the owner of the cattle couldn't pay the grazing fee. I evicted the cattle and a week later some cowboys rounded them up and hauled them off in semi-truck.

Now the same thing is happening again. Someone grazing on my land in Nevada has refused to pay his grazing fees--for 20 years-- even though ordered by a court several times. What am I to do? Confiscate the cattle illegally grazing on my land? Sounds like the right thing to do, but rancher illegally grazing on my land has (encouraged by elected officials) not only refuses to pay, he gets a bunch gun totting militia men to come and resist my efforts to enforce the court orders.

I think they should all (elected officials, rancher, and militia) be arrested and the cattle sold to pay for the grazing they've already done.


Posted: Friday, April 25, 2014
Article comment by: L J

Once again our local policticans are being lead by Fox News.See if these same elected leader would support us if we all refuse to pay our property taxes? Why is it Mohave County policticans feel they don't have to follow the rule of law? Change the law if you don't like it, until then you are
obligated to enforce it making you derelict in your duties!


Posted: Friday, April 25, 2014
Article comment by: Edward Tomchin

And yet again it seems we have the usual suspect radical right-wingers supporting Bundy, a self-avowed racist, radical religionist, and hater of the United States of America?

True colors have a way of showing through.



Posted: Friday, April 25, 2014
Article comment by: Jesus Weeps

@Linda Athens
Have you no shame.


Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Bob Moore:…the Kornze document then immediately issued giving Bundy 45 days to vacate the grazing land never mentioned non-payment of fees.”

Yes it did, specifically indicating that the crook Bundy was being told to vacant for his refusal to follow court orders based on his non-payment of grazing fees. Once again, where do you come up with this tripe?

“But then, you can look that up and read it for yourself.”

I did, obviously you did not, as usual.

”Since this story of the blacks will be all libs will have to comment on…”

Oh my no, we have the fact that Bundy is a crook to discuss, that he lied about his ”ancestral right” to the land, that he brought in armed nuts to set up sniper nests and take aim at federal officials, that he does not believe in our nation yet hides behind OUR flag? Basically he’s a bigoted, lying old fool who has sucked off the taxpayers for more than 20 years. See – lots to comment on!


Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Wrong Again

Darn! By the letter's title, I thought this letter was going to be about that pesky round-about again!

Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Bob Moore:

When Harry Reid's hand picked new head of the BLM, who had just left being Reid's Sr Advisor, Neil Kornze took over last August, 2013 in spite of only being Senate approved two weeks ago, the Kornze document then immediately issued giving Bundy 45 days to vacate the grazing land never mentioned non-payment of fees. Why do you suppose that was? Think real hard on this one.

A long list of insignificant things were listed but non payment was not one of them.

But then, you can look that up and read it for yourself.

Schmo: Since this story of the blacks will be all libs will have to comment on and taking a look at the horrible plight of blacks under the obama administration, I believe Bundy was simply saying, they might as well be back on the plantation where at least their families were together which frequently was the case. Perhaps indelicately put but that is what he meant.

They sure as hell don't want to be back in Africa. And let's remember, many Irish were slaves in America too, they were just called a nicer sounding name, Indentured Servants, often treated worse than blacks.

Unemployment among blacks is the worst it's ever been, most young black girls never marry the fathers of their children so added poverty.

Many lose hope, get in trouble.


Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: pl .....

Bob Moore's research indicating that Bundy has lied through his teeth about crucial facts bearing upon his case require more thinking here (apparently and contrary to Bundy's claims, his family has not been ranching in the area since just after the Civil War and long before the BLM was even created, but only began as immigrants from Arizona in the late 1940's after WWII). This may not be the hill you want to die on. That said, my concerns about government's reach and behaviour in other settings leaves me with the same adversarial views towards them.

Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Not entitled

It`s BLM land, not state. And it`s not the Oklahoma land rush either. Pay what he owes in grazing fees, or throw him in jail.

Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Joe Schmo

Mr. Bundy has been quoted as telling an interesting tale to a couple of reporters of how black people were so better off picking cotton during the slave days then they are today, because freedom or something.

Nice company your keeping.


Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Moderately Independent

Gotta love all of the supporters of this freeloading idiot, from Senators to Mohave County's own little "Gang of 10 Republican Committee Men" and Supervisor's (Moss and Angius in particular) and to even KDM's own editor and various and sundry posters here.

Every day more and more Bundy shows his true colors and disdain for this great country and what she stands for. Now he comes out in an interview with the New York Times stating that he oftened wondered if African Americans wouldn't be better off picking cotten as slaves!!!

Boy, the folks who chose to align themselves with this miscreant sure picked a winner, didn't they? And you and we all know who you are in this enclave of cyberspace known as the KDM online newspaper, don't we?

So the question is how many of the locals, meaning the "Committeemen, supervisor's, editor, and posters, are going to start backpedaling like Senators Dean Heller, R Nevada and Rand Paul, R Kentucky in their opinion of this fool and how many of you are going to stick by him? How many will show their true colors as well?

Perhaps some of you will learn to find out more about someone before you so eagerly support him next time.


Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Let's see, the feds declare state land off limits to Mr. Bundy because of the endangered tortoise.”

Let’s see, that is wrong.

Bundy, the crook, was denied access to public (our) lands because he refused to pay grazing fees for more than twenty years and lost numerous court cases where he claimed the land was his (or Nevada’s depending on which story he was telling at the time) and that he did not have to pay the federal government – that he refuses to recognize – but for some curious reason flies the flag of the United States.

Why righties continue to support this crook (who thanks to his speech on Wednesday proved he is a racist) that has cheated the American taxpayers out of more than a million dollars while lining his pockets with cash made by fattening his cattle on OUR land, is indeed a mystery.


Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Bundy will be infamously remembered as the Welfare Cowboy, his defenders will end up with nothing but egg on the old proverbial face, a man who is on video saying he does not believe in the existence of USA, or its authority over him, drapes himself with a USA flag at every opportunity, now the latest fiasco is he comments how blacks would have been better off to remain slaves, picking cotton,



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