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6/10/2014 6:00:00 AM
Letter: The water 'crisis'

Loved reading yet another article about our water, penned by Mr. Rick Sherwood in Sunday's Miner. At least he admits that he is "not a hydrologist." Not long ago there was a column by Doug McMurdo explaining his experiences with the water myths in Las Vegas. Why is it that these "sky is falling" articles always seem to appear as soon as someone like Jim Rhodes shows up in town to provide jobs and improvement? It seems that some people just don't want to see any type of progress here in Mohave County.

Golden Valley is in search of a grocery store that would be built out here, but with attitudes like Mr. Sherwood's, it will never happen.

What does Mr. Sherwood propose? How about a personal property tax on all wells that are connected to the aquifer? Would that make him happy? It won't provide any more water, but I'm sure we will all feel much better paying more for what we've already got. Another concern that Mr. Sherwood has is the contamination of the aquifer due to "chemicals added to the land to support agriculture."

If this were really a concern, why not stop the big agriculture firms from growing anything and we can all import our food and pay even more to a foreign country?

In the infamous words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" Stop picking on Jim Rhodes and people like him who are only trying to improve our lives in Mohave County. Really, the sky is not falling.

Glenn Agee

Golden Valley




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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, June 15, 2014
Article comment by: V Stokes

"We have enough "energy" in our ground to last well over a hundred years now."

Very likely true, but what about after that? Esp as our (and the worlds) population continues to increase? Do you just want to let your g-g-grandchildren deal with it? Some projections say world population could double in the next 100 years. Many scientists say energy is the major problem facing the world. Solve that and other things, like water and food production, can be fixed as well.

"Do you want windmills in your backyard?"

Sure would, over an oil rig or coal mine.

"The noise is deafening."

Horse hocky...

"Half the year, we have cloud cover..."
So what? Solar still works on cloudy days, just not quite as well. Still free power after the panels are in place.

"...but solar plants kill everything in their sight..."

Again, horse hocky.


Posted: Sunday, June 15, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew


@MS Athens

“Ever been near one?”

Yes, many times.

“The noise is deafening.”

Hogwash!

“They are completely worthless, expensive, have to have other energy to even work.”

Hogwash.

“…as far as sun panels. They are also expensive and worthless.”

Hogwash.

“…solar plants kill everything in their…And, they do cause pollution…”

It amazes me how you are so against the clean production of power by both the God-given wind and sun. As to expense – have you factored the costs of a coal-fired power plant recently?


Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Stokes:

We have enough "energy" in our ground to last well over a hundred years now. But it won't help us if we cannot drill/mine for it, will it? And sorry, obama has appointed his own far, far left minions in every department to do his bidding and do they ever in the EPA.

Thus, NO DRILLING on federal land, hard to even get permitted to drill on private land. He owes billions in payback to his greenie friends and has publicly declared his intent (along with Reid) to completely shut the coal industry down. It gets a bad rap even though it is pretty clean now.

Do you want windmills in your backyard? Ever been near one? The noise is deafening. Ever bothered to study the truth about them? You need to. They are completely worthless, expensive, have to have other energy to even work. Half the year, we have cloud cover, at night we have...well, night as far as sun panels. They are also expensive and worthless.

I am swamped so for later but solar plants kill everything in their sight including those turtles which were a cruel joke. And, they do cause pollution - for another day.


Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014
Article comment by: V Stokes

"Don't drill for the oil God has graciously put in our land..."

Who ever said anything about not drilling for oil? Not me. If it's done responsibly, no problem. I sure don't want an oil rig in my back yard though. Nor do I want it transported in such a way that it could cause catastrophic damage to the environment or ecosystem. The pipeline you keep pushing would do absolutely nothing for our energy independence, since it is purely designed to get Canadian oil to Gulf coast refineries and then placed on the open market. Benefit....Canada. There's already an overabundance of pipelines anyway.

"... these farms that will actually kill more wildlife and cause more pollution over cities..."

Kill more wildlife than what?? Lets see...driving cars...nope. Feral cats...nope. DDT (yes it's still used)...nope. Electrocution...nope. Cell phone towers...nope. So...more than what...trees?

And the "cause pollution" line? You've said it more than a few times...what exactly do you mean? What kind of pollution? CO? Methane? Particulates?

As I inferred before, if we want energy independence, we need to start looking for other sources now. Not when oil and coal run out or get too expensive to just burn for electricity.


Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Don't drill for the oil God has graciously put in our land…”

“God” did not put oil in our land.

“And blow more billions on the worthless windmill/solar farms…”

Always fun to watch your hatred for anything in the way of alternative energy – I’m surprised you don’t go on about hydro-electric dams. Both solar and wind power are amazing as they use the sun and wind to produce power, but for some curiously weird reason you are in favor of highly polluting coal. Why is that?

“....but then you haven't seen any of that in the liberal press, have you?”

No, because it is utter nonsense and spewed only by the likes of FAUX News, WND, and CNS.

“…if gas goes to $4, 5, 6 a gallon, blame your beloved obama.”

Nope, you righties insisted all during the eight year reign of error of The Criminal that the President IS NOT responsible for gas prices, so you are not now allowed to say Obama is.


Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014
Article comment by: DENISE BENSUSAN

You dont have one ioda of what you are talking about andyour not a hydrologist either. Do some research and look at the JUDGMENTS made just 3 years ago by the ACC concerning OUR water. PAY ATTENTION because it is obvious that you are not!

Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ LA

”What's the climate problem?”

According to the man you have claimed to be “the most brilliant man I have ever known” there is indeed a climate change crisis and it our fault.

David Barton – well know charlatan, liar and profiteer off of the ignorance of the intellectually challenged - has come out claiming climate change is indeed a fact and is man-caused.

In what has to be the most asinine leap of logic ever conceived Barton said in an interview with evangelical Kenneth Copeland that climate change is the result of – wait for it – abortion, brought about God’s judgment upon the world.

The two came to the following conclusions, 1) America voted in politicians who support abortion rights, and 2) In so doing, we “opened the door to the curse,” which includes floods, tornadoes, murder and pedophilia. And Barton concluded with, ““We opened a door that lost God’s protection over our environment and that’s our choice.”

“Oil?”

Domestic Oil Production up 25%, imports down 25% under Obama, once again debunking your argument.


Posted: Saturday, June 14, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

V Stokes:

And your point is what? Don't drill for the oil God has graciously put in our land but instead keep buying it from the islamic countries that would like us all dead?

And blow more billions on the worthless windmill/solar farms as payback to obama's buddies, these farms that will actually kill more wildlife and cause more pollution over cities....but then you haven't seen any of that in the liberal press, have you? Or on Media Matters, Huffpo, etc.

Great planning. Right up there with obama going to Palm Springs today TO GOLF AND HAVE YET ANOTHER FUNDRAISER WHILE WE HAVE A MAJOR CRISIS IN IRAQ AND AMERICANS MAY BE TRAPPED THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen anything like it. OFF GOLFING. Unbelievable. Let's not forget the other crisis this week, the 100,000 children from Central America with no where to go.

And incidentally, if gas goes to $4, 5, 6 a gallon, blame your beloved obama.


Posted: Friday, June 13, 2014
Article comment by: V Stokes

"What's the climate problem? Yes, it has been much colder in the winter - all part of the up and down of regular climate change. "

"Oil? - Only problem there is, we are sitting on the biggest oil reserves in the world ..."

Got it...you only care about now and you...not those that will have to deal with issues 100 yrs from now. Just like your stance on water issues.


Posted: Friday, June 13, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

V Stokes:

What's the climate problem? Yes, it has been much colder in the winter - all part of the up and down of regular climate change.

Oil? - Only problem there is, we are sitting on the biggest oil reserves in the world we now know and obama has used regulations to keep us from mining it on government property, has made the permitting process so slow on private property, some wait years to get going.

Why would obama NOT want us to be oil independent? Wake up!! He hates America, wants to take us down a notch. The ONLY thing he has been successful at - especially in putting coal miners out of work.

When will you libs ever wake up. And sorry, Bush wasn't responsible for the housing bust.

Try doing a little Fannie/Freddy Barney Frank research.


Posted: Friday, June 13, 2014
Article comment by: Old Desert woman

Ah Jim Rhodes, the great provider of jobs and improver of our lives. Let's all get behind him while he destroys the natural habitat, grows nothing but dust. I see no worker just one tracter driver who is destroying our beautiful desert. Dust, dust, dust. Maybe some of us moved to Golden Valley because we like the natural habitat, the open country, the beauty of the desert?

If Rhodes wants to do something let him plant native trees first and grow some fruit and nut trees with vegies underneath. He's a big pretender who somehow managed to file bankruptcy bailing out on his debts while buying back thousands of acres to destroy. Sickening!


Posted: Friday, June 13, 2014
Article comment by: Jim Consolato

I think Mr. Sherwoods article was very good. It had a lot of informatoin and made some very good points we all need to consider carefully.


Posted: Friday, June 13, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

to:

I'm not suggesting letting them die in the desert but the opposite. My heart is breaking for them. I have searched for a way to help.

Every Border Patrol agent interviewed has said this was calculated and planned out by obama. Central America got the word. It's in their newspapers. Get the young ones here, UNACCOMPANIED, and they can stay. Parents can then follow.

He recently told a Democrat group, "Dreamers" (young illegals) are America's future. Really obama? And pushing an immigration bill, even immigration LITE, we KNOW it will have amnesty somewhere in it.

And, he has an Americorps plan he is throwing millions at for these young illegals but there is no money to pay the overwhelmed, overworked Border Patrol and many have their hours cut, only 50% are even working the border, the rest are baby sitting. Meanwhile, Iraq is falling to a worse than al qaeda and our border is wide open. Come on in terrorists!!


CA was taken over after the Reagan/Democrat Congress amnesty. His plan is to take over TX.

Obama studied this Piven/Cloward plan under these commies in college and now he's implementing it to turn America into his socialist paradise.

Stop feigning ignorance. Our country is in chaos, o even illegally using Army bases to house children.



Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014
Article comment by: trained observer

You forgot our little problem, COMPLETELY CAUSED BY LIBERAL DEMS, with the housing crisis?
___
Except that the recession was worldwide and caused by deregulation of big banks. Not a "liberal dem" issue but you might want to thank Bush 2 who wanted "everyone to have a home" whether or not they were qualified to own one.
____

We have thousands of illegal children, as young as 4 and 5 years old with NO parents with them dumped in our state from Guatemala, El Salvadore, etc , many w/diseases and not one word in the national lib press or anyone on here.
____
Are you suggesting the National Enquirer missed this or just what? Almost all news outlets mentioned this. I don't think anyone want the illegal immigrants here but it isn't very christian to let them die in the desert.
.


Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2014
Article comment by: V Stokes

"...they told me there really isn't a water problem here."

You forgot one little word at the end..."now".

Just like no real problem with the climate...now.

Like no real problem with overpopulation in much of the world...now.

Like no real problem using oil as a fuel source...now.

How about 2-3 generations from now?


Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"Out of a job like Mr. Cantor in Virginia"

You could be right, and like Cantor, they would be replaced by other Republicans. Wait, did you think democrats would be the replacements even under those circumstances?


Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Harris

Thanks, Fox Hound. I don't read LA and have made it a point never to respond to her since I've learned years ago she makes up her "facts", uses shady sources, and writes from personal experiences that are questionable. I noticed my name in her comment and read only that part she felt needing to attack and twist.

Fox Hound, you wrote exactly what I would have if I chose to acknowledge her. Yea, we don't have a problem at all with folks making money. The problem like you said is how they make it. If they misuse a lower property tax they are cheating all of us in this county. Again, thanks for detailing a reasonable person's position on what the problem is with Mr Rhodes' means of making money.

P.S.: Ms Athens, I don't know you. I don't like you so please when you feel the need to address me, it's Mr Harris.


Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Fox Hound, etc:

First, I don't believe there is a water problem to start with. Having worked with somebody whose expertise and passion was in that subject, they told me there really isn't a water problem here.

You mention Rhodes and the homes. You forgot our little problem, COMPLETELY CAUSED BY LIBERAL DEMS, with the housing crisis? Can we say Fannie and Freddy and Barney Franks and those loving Dems who believed every one was entitled to a home even when they didn't make enough money to pay for them? That greatly affected Mr. Rhodes project. Nevertheless, he soldiered on.

I have researched Mr. Rhodes incidentally. I also processed septic permits for those homes.

And like all good left wingers, you strain at gnats and swallow camels.

We have thousands of illegal children, as young as 4 and 5 years old with NO parents with them dumped in our state from Guatemala, El Salvadore, etc , many w/diseases and not one word in the national lib press or anyone on here. We are being OVERRUN and this camel you simply swallow as if it is nothing. But rail on about Rhodes and the water. Muy importante!!


Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“How about if you work your tail off for years, building your own business and the president comes along and says you didn't build that business?”

Ho about if you were to show what the president actually said instead of an out-of-context rehash of a thoroughly debunked right wing talking point?

”How about you work your tail off and obama comes along and says, sorry, you have to vacate and we'll give you $1,000 for the whole works.”

Please, give us some specifics as to when that has happened? Thank you.

“…obama says, sorry, that's not fair and we're taking 60% of it in taxes…”

Once again, specifics please on when that has happened? Thank you.

“…obama tells every country in Central America to send THEIR kids here…”

One more time, when did the president do that? Specifics, please? Thank you.


Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Pete Vilencia

Poor little Jim Rhodes why would any one pick on the perfect citizen he just wants to rape our land create more dust and leave when his pockets are full must be a friend of Obamas

Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Kingman Dweller

Mr. Agee I couldn't agree with you more. Again, it doesn't matter what people will try and do around here, if it doesn't pertain to cheaper golf, they will complain. Mr. Rhodes is doing a great thing regardless of the whining. Luckily he doesn't have to go through them to move his farming forward. This is happening and looking back we will be better for it.

Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: The Fox Hound

No Linda there is no problem with making money. The problem is how you make money. If you consistently lie about how your going to make it. Mr. Rhodes came here and said he was going to use the land he bought to build 30 thousand new homes and golf courses. That was acceptable to some people because at least it would bring in a lot more taxes and create more jobs to service those new neighbors. I didn't believe him then because I didn't believe that 30 thousand people wanted to live in Golden Valley. Nobody on the left thinks that making money is bad. I think Warren Buffet is a perfect example of a liberal who seems to make a lot of money and he seems to be a pretty good Christian as well. The problem with Mr. Rhodes is he wants to come here and make money on a resource that we all need to continue our pursuit of happiness here in the desert. I know that you can grow crops in the desert. I grow them myself hydroponically, but large scale farming when it puts our most valuable resource at risk is simply folly and should not be allowed by the government. If the Republican politicians that are allowing him to use our water so foolishly don't wake up and start working for all of us they just might end up out of a job like Mr. Cantor back in Virginia.

Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Rick Sherwood

@Linda
The issue is future water source and prudent use of what we have. Stick to the issue


Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2014
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Doing Research:

Your grasshopper story sounds like it's right out of the obama playbook.

How about if you work your tail off for years, building your own business and the president comes along and says you didn't build that business?

How about you work your tail off and obama comes along and says, sorry, you have to vacate and we'll give you $1,000 for the whole works. There's an endangered turtle on your property?

How about you work your tail off, make a LOT of money and obama says, sorry, that's not fair and we're taking 60% of it in taxes and because people making very little don't have all the money you have, we're not going to make them pay any taxes at all.

How about you work hard and save to put your own kids through college and then obama tells every country in Central America to send THEIR kids here and under this act of his and dangling the magic word AMNESTY on each sign, they can stay here, we will feed them, house them, teach them English, innoculate them, care for those with chicken pox, MRSA and scabies, provide Dr's for them and we are asking Congress for $2 billion dollars right now to pay for these Central American children because it isn't fair that you only saved and paid for your own so you get to pay for them now too.


Posted: Tuesday, June 10, 2014
Article comment by: Tea Partier!

Linda, I am surprised you support Rhodes.

"You've never stopped at the produce stands on the edge of Phoenix to buy fresh produce grown in that hottest of desert heat?"

"The whole valley between El Paso and Las Cruces, ALL DESERT, is farm after farm after farm after farm."

That is obviously because El Paso and Las Cruces happens to be along the Rio Grande River and the farms in the Phoenix valley is irrigated from the Gila and Salt River.

If Rhodes, wants to get into the faming business, fine, but he needs to invest in farming where there is major sources of water or along the Colorado River such as Ft. Mohave, not depleting what proven limited ground water we have here.



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