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6/15/2014 5:59:00 AM
Letter: What freedoms have you lost?

There is a lot of whining going on by Republicans that our freedoms are being taken away, especially since Obama won the presidency. I would like some of these people to list what freedoms they have personally lost.

There is only one freedom that I have partially lost, and that is the freedom to smoke in public buildings. I can still smoke in my home, my car, and outside. And that's okay with me, because that's for the protection of others against my supposedly life-threatening second-hand smoke (which is BS in my book).

Other than that, I can still have a gun, say what I want, eat what I want, shop where I want, travel anywhere I want, dress however I want to, drive a car, own a house, and everything else I have done over the past 69 years. Taxes have been around as long as I can remember, and I don't mind paying them, since taxes help support state and federal governments and programs. Having car and health insurance assures me that I won't go bankrupt if I cause an accident or get gravely ill.

The EPA allows me to breath clean air and drink clean water. The FDA allows me to ingest safe food and medicine. Rules, laws, and regulations have been around since Biblical times. The world's greatest military still protects us from those who would like to destroy us. Making cars more fuel-efficient saves me money at the gas pump. Wearing a seat belt may save my life. All of these things that Republicans are griping about assures our safety. You want to do away with all of these things? If so, then you really do have a death wish.

As for the NSA, yes, they may intrude on our personal lives, but they are doing their best to keep us safe from international terrorists - no matter what they have to do, and that's just fine with me. Our biggest threat right now is domestic terrorists. So quit your whining and enjoy the freedom of living in what is still the greatest nation on earth.

Lori Gabriel-Dane

Kingman




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Reader Comments

Posted: Thursday, July 3, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"As for the NSA, yes, they may intrude on our personal lives, but they are doing their best to keep us safe from international terrorists - no matter what they have to do, and that's just fine with me."

Makes perfect sense for you to think that way. After all, anyone who has clearly stated that they would willingling give up their rights and freedoms, except for the right to vote, which they would lose anyway with all the others, would put up with anything. You are a potential willing slave.

"Our biggest threat right now is domestic terrorists."

Yes, 'cause Bill Ayers, the self admitted terrorist who said he "got away with it" who is a close personal friend of your hero, obama, is still walking around breathing.

And there is also the OWS crowd to think about, and don't forget Code Pink.

LOL


Posted: Wednesday, July 2, 2014
Article comment by: Joe Miller

"As for the NSA, yes, they may intrude on our personal lives, but they are doing their best to keep us safe from international terrorists - no matter what they have to do, and that's just fine with me."

It isn't just the NSA Lori. They are providing the intelligence gathered by our various intelligence gathering organizations to state, county, and local law enforcement agencies as well as coaching said agencies on to how to lie in court about the origins of their evidence to both the courts and the defendants.

But you're ok with doing whatever it takes to stop "terrorism", right Lori? I'm not. I still believe in the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the principles under which they were founded.


Posted: Monday, June 30, 2014
Article comment by: Frank lee Speaking

@the republican

"But do tell us which party introduced the Freedom Act?"

It is actually The USA Freedom Act. HR 3361 / Senate 1599. Introduced by REPUBLICAN Jim Sensenbrenner.

It proposed to:

End bulk collection of Americans communications records.
Reform the foreign intelligence courts
Increase transparency


Posted: Monday, June 30, 2014
Article comment by: Frank lee Speaking

@Joe Miller

"...none of which you (Lori) apparently care about....."

Someone who proudly stated here that they would willingly give up all their rights and freedoms (except her right to vote, lol) " is not going to care at all about your rights, under ANY amendment being violated.



Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Lori G-D

"I don't want ALL guns taken out of the hands of American citizens"

Notice the careful use of the word "all" in your claim.

You have clearly said in the past that you would like to see us all be prohibited from having:

1. Semi-automatic weapons
2. Rapid fire weapons (which means ALL semi-automatic weapons.
3. Assault weapons.

Do I need to put up your past comments......AGAIN. lol

And you have been very careful over the years to avoid ever answering what you regard as an "assault weapon". Frankly, anyone that calls for the banning of something who is unwilling, or unable to state what that something is just ends up looking very foolish.

"gun shows"

It is clear you know nothing about gun shows. Any dealer, with a table, selling guns at a gun show is licensed and does background checks. What some private citizen sells right outside the gun show, like in the parking lot, it is not the responsibility of the people putting on the gun show. It is a policing problem. Oh wait, since private gun sales are legal, it is not the cops business either.


Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2014
Article comment by: Joe Miller

Also please google parallel construction as a law enforcement process of building an evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to conceal how an investigation was really begun.

And be sure to pay attention to the next Snowden intel release.


Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2014
Article comment by: Joe Miller

(Sorry, dang autocorrect)

Lori, at the minimum my rights under the 1st, 4th, and 14th Amendments, none of which you apparently care about considering the content of the last paragraph in your letter.


Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2014
Article comment by: Joe Miller

Lori, at the minimum my rights under the 1st, 4th, and 14th Amendments, none of which you apparently care apart considering the content your last paragraph in your letter.

Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@self

"what the record clearly proves you did not,"

Ooooopsie, typo, should read "what the record clearly proves you did"

LOL


Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"I responded to your request and answered your question"

Sorry, but you never responded. All you keep doing is saying you either did not say what the record clearly proves you did not, or that you did not mean what you very clearly said.

And once more......concentrate and even move your lips while reading if you must.

Any govt regulations, especially things like background checks for firearms are a loss of freedom to ME personally.

Now answer this. Precisely which of the school shootings in the past few years would have been prevented by a background check?

Despite all your anti-gun whining it is really very simple. Someones dead kid will never trump 300 million citizens Constitutional rights. Not even 20 dead kids will do it. And all of your proposals that will never prevent another one just makes me laugh at your feel good, and meaningless efforts.

And you clearly said on more than one occasion you want to take virtually all types of gun from the rest of. Specifically, all semi-automatic weapons. Pass all the laws you wish. Millions of gun owners will ignore them.

LOL


Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014
Article comment by: hear no evil, see no evil .....

Wow, the two most prominent leftists here can write, but they can't read, as we knowledgeably refute their babblings. Anyway, pandemonium is about to go viral in Ukraine and Iraq, while that 133-nation conference in Bolivia breaks up after seeking "a whole new paradigm" for world rule (what? They're not happy with the Fed's wars, and the other cult/ethnic institutions' national rapes and butcheries?). And only Togoland, of all the world's nations, exceeds our incarceration rate. Lori and Bobbie.....they stole everything. Your money is worthless (it helps to be an economist, or to get out of the house now and then). Nation after nation is ruined for your temporary enjoyment. But the powers aren't interested in your enjoyment. They just needed the time to finalize your.....oh, well, I forgot there are people here who can write, but not read.

Posted: Friday, June 27, 2014
Article comment by: Not surprised

Still no answers?. Not at all surprised.

It's hard to back up empty claims.


Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

FLS,

Ok, I responded to your request and answered your question. But I'm still waiting for your reply to my question... exactly what freedoms have you personally lost? If you can't come up with a list of all the personal freedoms you and others claim to have lost, guess you haven't lost any, eh? Seems like no one can answer my question. I wonder why that is!


Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

"he is remembered today for them shanty towns of homeless unemployed they nick named after him Hoovervilles!"

So, according to you, all homeless persons encampments these days are therefore "obamavilles". Thanks for the clarification.

By the way, in the 1st quarter of this year, the U.S. economy is down 2.9%.

Source? LA Times.

"Jun 25, 2014 · The economy's first-quarter performance was the worst since the Great Recession."

Now try and put a positive spin on that. lol

But I am sure you will find someway to absolve obama of any responsibility at all for the economy.


Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: A&W A&W

@ justanobody sr.. Well consider me hopeless and tell us all the freedoms you've lost..

Having President Obama in the White House is not a lost freedom. Just like L.A, maybe you don't know what freedom is..
Sorry I hurt myself reaching for Straws...


Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

A certain political party said in 1930's if we passed social security we would all become communists, and America was doomed! I seem to remember the same comments during 1960's during the Medicaid, Medicare etc. debates... seems America is still here, no one is a communist unless they want to be one! Some people believe anything, it reminds me of them old western peddlers who sold the "snake oil syrup laced with alcohol" guaranteed to cure all that ails you, at best it gave the user a bit of a warm, fuzzy feeling and down right drunk if they drank enough of it! Today people sell it with gusto, swearing that trickle down economic theory will fix America, seems Hebert Hoover was famously quoted when asked what was he going to do about America's economic collapse, "let the free market fix it", he is remembered today for them shanty towns of homeless unemployed they nick named after him Hoovervilles!

Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Illegal in White House? The Birther's are one of the amusing characters in our society, this ironic story was created by a angry Jewish lady who is a naturalized citizen whom will never be eligible for the job the alleged Illegal Kenyan in White House has, takes no rocket scientist her racism/bigotry is race and religious based, ironically first the Birther's tried to say he was mentored by a racist black Christian preacher, then they decided he was a secret Muslim due to his fathers religion,

Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“1st and foremost........ an Illegal in the white house!...as long as we have an illegal pretending to be POTUS.”

I strongly suggest you refer to my blog “A Trip to Birtherville” (September last year and still in archives) to dispel this utter garbage that has been debunked so many times


Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: Iraq - Republican War and Now Republican Caused Mess

The issue is the Iraq War - it was a Republican War and the present mess' blame definitely falls at the feet of the Republicans. Republican president decided not to listen to the people (massive anti-war rallies throughout the world) and his own daddy. The Republicans flooded the airways pushing the war, Republicans Rush, Hannity, Beck, all pushed the war.

Follow the advise of your great god - the Alaskan quitter and "man up" - do like all good Republicans should do starting with GW 'War Criminal' Bush and apologize.

Someone mentioned the IRS hearings. First of all the Republican who worked in the IRS on reviewing the applications said Republican cause groups were not targeted. Democratic cause groups were scrutinized as well. But Issa won't have none of that. The other thing funny is the live broadcast of the hearings on FauxNews. This network which is really a propaganda tool for the right refuses to broadcast President Obama's speeches live, yet pushes their cameras into a little congressional committee hearing. Anyone truly interested in knowing the truth about current events will avoid that network.


Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: justanobody sr

if I have to point out the losses all of us have suffered. then you are hopeless,
1st and foremost........ an Illegal in the white house!
circumventing the constitution at every opportunity!
for his own agenda!
taking away all the freedoms our solders have fought for!
and on and on,
I 'm sure it will continue, as long as we have an illegal pretending to be POTUS.


Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

FLS,

In response to your question, my answer is simply, you're wrong. I don't want all guns taken out of the hands of American citizens. But they should never be allowed in the hands of people with a history of mental illness. All sales of guns - private, gun shows, and commercial sales - should require an extensive background check. And why does anyone need a gun that can shoot off 30 rounds or more in a matter of seconds? One person on here suggested that he didn't have to reload as often at the firing range. Really?

As for your other post, I know that the NRA does not "make" guns, but they certainly do promote them, and that is why I said they have too much power, too much money, and too many members to ever allow the banning of ALL guns.

As for not trusting me with a gun, that's fine. I don't trust you with one, either. Again, I wouldn't trust anyone with one. I have the freedom to mistrust anyone who finds it necessary to carry their gun into Walmart, or Safeway, or any other store I frequent. I don't know their intent.

Again, and I hope the Miner will print this, this time. Please don't assume that you know what I'm thinking or want. You don't. And now, you respond to my question - exactly what freedoms have you PERSONALLY lost?

A&W A&W, thank you.



Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: Marla Kiriakidis

No one ever answered the question.

Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

Frankly Speaking, Good job digging Lori's old post up.
Now, can you help get Lois Lerner's e-mails?
I suppose if you never have to deal IRS you might believe you can put your trust all into fed. government. Well, until you notice all the drugs and companies being sued, realizing FDA has allowed so many rotten ingredients to be put your food and on & on.

But Lori, if your comfortable just be Happy Happy Happy!!!


Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014
Article comment by: A&W A&W

Why is everyone giving Lori such a hard time, she ask one legit question and no one has answered her, you just attack her because you know she's right..

Posted: Monday, June 23, 2014
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Lori G-D

"I NEVER said that I want all guns banned."

True enough, you would allow us all to keep muzzle loaders and single shot weapons.

On 12/26/2012 you said:

"I do believe that ANY RAPID FIRE weapons and extended clips should be banned.

Any 22 rifle that is not a single shot model is "rapid fire".

You also wrote:

""Now days, I wouldn't trust anyone with a gun,....."

While i do note agree with a blanket statement like that........I do know someone who knows as little about firearms as you is a person I would not trust with one.

Admit it, you wish to take nearly all weapons away from Americans.

Please respond.



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