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10/1/2012 6:01:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Media mum when Obama lies

I watched the Sixty Minute Romney/Obama interviews with disgust.

While Romney was interrupted, Obama repeated the same old lies and Kroft never disputed them. Obama repeats them, knowing the tinfoil heads will nod in agreement on their way to vote for him, the rest won't bother to check the true facts.

Two big lies, that Obama has created 4.2 million jobs and Bush was bleeding 600,000 jobs a month were again repeated. They're still lies. Obama even admitted they stretch the truth but hey, it's a campaign, he said. Sixty Minutes cut that part.

Obama, like Clinton at the Democratic Convention, both blame the Republicans for standing in the way of the recovery. Really? Does a recovery even require government intervention? Our first 150 years, government never interfered and downturns weren't as long nor as deep.

In 1921, under the "do-nothing" President, Warren Harding, unemployment was 11.7 percent. Harding did but one thing, he reduced government spending as tax revenues declined due to the downturn. By 1922, that 11.7 percent fell to 6.7 percent and in 1923 to 2.4 percent. Harding's government got out of the way, the economy rebounded on it's own.

Another 60 Minute lie - Obama declared he saved the auto industry. In fact, he did not. But Romney had suggested a similar Harding response. Let them go bankrupt he said. And, unknown to most, included in the government bailout was ... a bankruptcy.

The 60 Minutes bombshell was Obama's reference to Israel as but one of our allies in the region. But one? This is a terrifying remark to Jews and Christians. Obama needs to get off The View and look out the window. The Israeli neighborhood is in flames ... they're burning our flag ... and threatening Israel with extinction. Maybe meeting with Netanyahu instead of David Letterman is in the offing. And finding out why the dead Ambassador hand wrote in his diary he was in fear with so little security and why in fact, did he have so little security. Being the Hip-hop President might be cool to some. It's not to me.

Linda Athens

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Therefore, the net number of jobs in the United States since Obama took office is a negative number. This is how the facts are being distorted to favor him. No, I am not going to state every source I looked at. If you want to know look it up yourself.”

Not buying it without some sort of proof. 30 months of positive job growth prove you wrong, the BLS figures prove you wrong. The Criminal was bleeding American jobs at close to a three-quarters of a million a month when he was escorted out of the White House.


Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“the government does not create jobs, the private sector does".

So let me get this straight – major dams (Hoover, etc), the interstate highway system – heck roads in general – the military, police, fire, schools are all jobs created by the private sector? Sorry, but you’re wrong. The government does indeed create jobs.


Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"Obama, like Clinton at the Democratic Convention, both blame the Republicans for standing in the way of the recovery. Really? Does a recovery even require government intervention? Our first 150 years, government never interfered and downturns weren't as long nor as deep."

Stock speculation and Banking corruption was not near as rampant then as well. Or did you forget that part?

"Harding did but one thing, he reduced government spending as tax revenues declined due to the downturn."

Harding did many things, some of which were not legal....

You know, the only place I can find any links about 60 minutes cutting Obama's interviews are your favorite right wing hack links. So, pardon me if I do not buy into that paranoia.

I guess it boils down to this Linda....just because you say something is a lie, does not make it one. Sorry.


Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Liberty Freedom

Lets be Libertarian with Gary Johnson!!!!!

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Did You Really Think

Well Linda fortunately for the US people are really starting to come around and see Romney for who he really is and who he represents. It's easy to sit back and throw numbers out there in peoples faces and call Obama a lier but the bottom line is Romney has been putting up a front from the get go. He's a spoiled rich kid that doesn't have a clue as to what it takes to work for what you have. He only represents those that share his ideas of only the rich should be the priviledged!

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: David Gaither

Anson's Nephew wrote:

"Wrong, as usual, data from the BLS proves the information to be correct."

Even you, oh wonderous one, don't know how those numbers are computed. So, don't put any faith in BLS or any other govt. bueracracy! Do you really believe the BLS is absolutely neutral! If so, I got some Arizona beach front property for you. (Oh, wait...I better check with Mexico to see if they have invaded it yet!)


Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Wow unhappy at the way media covers her messiah, the funniest part of the comment was reference to tin foil hats, anyone who believes in a 50 some odd conspiracy to install a muslim, illegal kenyan alien into white house with communist and socialist ideology is wearing the biggest tin foil hat ever made! Guess come Nov 12, post election, once the votes are counted we will see will Romney lose by worse than McCain with his 6% loss or will it be 10% or larger? I never really think anyone loses till they have lost but when ones own party is not confident its a good sign your in deep trouble! I venture a loss for Romney in excess of 47% which will make McCains loss look good in comparison!

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Keith Blighton

Rick O’Shea

You have sparked my curiosity with your statement of “"the government does not create jobs, the private sector does",.

Based on your statement, why do we have “government employees”? If the government does not create jobs, there is no reason to have “employees”. How is that we have Federal, State, City and County employees. Are these employees actually working for private sector companies and not the government?

I realize that the government is only a portion of the country’s work force but by your statement these employees should not exist as the government does not create jobs. Could you expand on your statement?


Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Since the polls have obama already winning, it's a shame Romney can't find a smoking gun to run on.

Wait a minute! Univision and one no holds barred scathing report.

January 30, 2010, 20 commando hit men outside a birthday party in Villas de Salvarcar, Juarez. Sixty teenagers fired on by 20 commando hit men with lookouts shooting down a screaming neighbor and a couple of kids trying to escape. 14 dead kids, 12 wounded.

Guns cross checked w/no help from US gov't show guns used were Fast and Furious guns linked to La Linea drug cartel.

Eighteen more kids in Aliviane Center in Juarez killed on 9-2-2009. In all, Univision reports nearly 100 Fast and Furious guns found at murders, kidnappings and one massacre. 57 more were found that the U S had not even reported on their list but were F and F guns.

The pictures of blood running in the streets of Juarez where I have spent many happy hours and where my kids have gone to parties is sickening. Visiting there recently, I see 300,000 Mexicans have moved into El Paso to try to save their own lives.

If this was under the Bush admin, it would be a smoking cannon and Bush would have been impeached along w/his DOJ. Visiting gay bars, name swirling around two murders would have done the same.

Our soldiers in Afghanistan are being slaughtered daily by "friendly" afghan soldiers. Where is obama on this? What is his plan there?

Soldiers absentee ballots seem to be disappearing now also. This happened last time around. But heard any national news on it? No, the news is on the one FL guy, none on our brave soldiers votes disappearing.



Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Bob Smith

It is not that hard to distort facts. Yes, Obama did create somewhere around 4.2 million jobs (give or take depending on the source) however, this number does not reflect the number of jobs lost as well. While the gross number of jobs created by Obama was 4.2 million, the United States lost more then 4.2 million jobs during his presidency. Therefore, the net number of jobs in the United States since Obama took office is a negative number. This is how the facts are being distorted to favor him. No, I am not going to state every source I looked at. If you want to know look it up yourself.

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

To Linda Athens:

You wrote, "Obama, like Clinton at the Democratic Convention, both blame the Republicans for standing in the way of the recovery. Really?Does a recovery even require government intervention? Our first 150 years, government never interfered and downturns weren't as long nor as deep. "

Uh... ever hear of the Great Depression? Ever hear of the Dust Bowl? These two events REQUIRED government intervention to help the American people recover. And it took almost 14 YEARS to recover from the Great Depression.

As for your two supposed "lies" told by Obama during his Sixty Minute interview, look at the chart of jobs lost under Bush and jobs gained under Obama on the Bureau of Labor Statistics website and you will see that President Obama did not lie.

Sorry, but Obama DID save the auto industry. Had he not bailed them out, they may not have been able to recover. Your problem is that no matter what Obama does or says, your brain immediately considers it a lie or a wrongdoing. Please check the facts (the REAL facts) before repeating garbage you hear from Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, or any of the Tea Party fringe lunatics!

You also wrote, "Obama even admitted they stretch the truth but hey, it's a campaign, he said. Sixty Minutes cut that part."

Obviously you were in the editing room and actually saw that segment being cut, right? If not, you got this information from... where?


Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Trained Observer

I notice the local media only says what it wants in regard to politics too. Recently there was an expose of how this county compares to others in AZ in terms of how many elected officials the county has. Seems tis county is way above what anyone else has. If we got rid of a few unnecessary people in county government at the top (hint like the ones that give their fishing buddies jobs they aren't qualified for) we could save a lot of money.

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Rick O'Shea

They all lie, this is what the great United States has come to, the best liar wins. You ever notice Demolib's also shut their mouths when their president gets caught at doing something wrong (Bill Clinton & Monica Lewinsky), I suspect this is why they are quiet about "fast & furious", they perceive where it will lead. These people are fanatical nut jobs, if you provide proof on something it's well, that comes from a more conservative source so I won't believe it. Even when facts are given that come from a more liberal source that doesn't support the presidents position the Demolib's don't want to see it or hear it. The biggest joke is Obama saying how many jobs have been created, they ( Obama's Admin.) omit how many jobs total have been lost in the last 4 years, every couple of days another major company is laying off employees. It has been said many times by not only representatives but analysts from every side, "the government does not create jobs, the private sector does", so how is it exactly that Obama is creating these jobs, saying it doesn't make it so Demolib's.

Posted: Monday, October 1, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Two big lies, that Obama has created 4.2 million jobs and Bush was bleeding 600,000 jobs a month were again repeated.”

Wrong, as usual, data from the BLS proves the information to be correct.

“Obama, like Clinton at the Democratic Convention, both blame the Republicans for standing in the way of the recovery.”

The most filibusters in the history of our nation, blocking every jobs bill proposed by the presidents and saying they will support nothing put forward by the president proves the above to be true.

“Another 60 Minute lie - Obama declared he saved the auto industry.

The fact that GM is the number one automaker in the world and Chrysler is posting record profits proves that the auto loans (that are being paid back) did save the industry along with million of American jobs.

On the other hand, Willard the Money Hider’s claim to fame has been to bankrupt American companies, put American workers out on the street, steal the pensions of American workers, take away the health care of American families, send those American jobs to COMMUNIST CHINA while investing in COMMNUNIST CHINESE companies and then hiding his ill-gotten gains off-shore to make certain his funds will NEVER benefit American, American Businesses or American workers.

w/c210



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