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11/18/2012 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Denied the right to vote

I just want to let people know for sure that my husband and many others did not get to vote in today's election. I think that until our military and private contractors across the ocean get to vote, the new president should not be named.

It is terribly unfair that these men and women are over there fighting for us and putting their lives on the line every single day and they do not get the privilege that we as Americans are entitled to. What a bunch of BS!

Debbie Sleep

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"WHY would you vote for a person w/a failed record and unemployment HIGHER four years later than when he went into office? You could have voted for a man who built a successful business instead."

Ok, so just recently you posted it was the same as when he took office, and now you are saying it is higher. Which is it?

PS....Romney's business was only successful at killing smaller businesses and bankrupting pension plans while sending jobs to China. Not sure how you could have flip flopped and wanted him in office.


Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“While you are at it, how about making those 48% on the other side who pay no taxes put some skin in the game.”

Who are these “those 48% on the other side who pay no taxes”? How do they live? Where do they live? How do they eat? Why don’t we notice this number of people with no clothing? Lots of questions about “those 48% on the other side who pay no taxes.”


Posted: Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“… he didnt get his ballot and neither did the other men on the base hes at.. I have since been informed.. that because they are front lines..that is the reason.”

I will try again since my last post was censored … uhh deleted. Please tell us what base he is at so that we can begin further checking. If this was such a major problem I am quite honestly surprised that we did not see it mentioned – anywhere.

However, I do remember a similar situation with some of my buddies in Vietnam. For some reason when we returned to base camp after three weeks in the bush their ballots had been returned as undeliverable by the mail clerk. However, mine and some others were not returned. Never did figure that one out. And it wasn’t partisan – some of them were Nixon supporters others of us were not.


Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Article comment by: Debbie Sleep

Andsons Nephew... yes my husband is registered ... has been the 5 years he has been over there.. voted in past elections.. There has never been a problem before.. This wasnt about who won or lost for me.. it was a matter of.. he didnt get his ballot and neither did the other men on the base hes at.. I have since been informed.. that because they are front lines..that is the reason.. and I am still looking into it !!!

Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Article comment by: V Stokes

@AN
" “Sounds like it came from some sort of chain email to me.”
Then prove it."

Why should I? That was just a personal opinion....I didn't state it as a fact. The poster I responded to posted things as facts, without any source or documentation.

Matter of fact...I did look up a few numbers ...some of which show the poster did not do any real research. Use of food stamps in commissaries was actually reported at $88M in 2011 vs $31M in 2008. Most of this was attributed to recently released non-retired members, NG, and Reservists. Some of those had no job to come back to or were undergoing medical treatment which prevented employment. Who's watch was that on again?

Read his first paragraph. 12 year old dates and statements that can't possibly be proven. 40% voted for Obama...that means 60% didn't, doesn't it? "Those Military Men and Women who voted for Mitt Romney were Officers " Officers make up a very small part of the military, not 60%. Where exactly is that info? Aren't votes pretty much secret? Maybe it was a poll of some sort? Where? When? Who?

Maybe you should let Randi defend his/her own comments?


Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

And here it is, proof of Republican voter suppression.

Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer has been claiming for months that state party members engineered a new law to suppress voter turnout, falsely touting voter fraud concerns to advance their mission. Now, other Republicans and consultants are backing Greer up, The Palm Beach Post reports.
Greer has been claiming that state Republicans supported a law which curtailed early voting simply as a means to stymie the Democratic vote.

Staff and consultants "never came in to see me and tell me we had a (voter) fraud issue," Greer told the newspaper. "It was all a marketing ploy."

Former Republican Gov. Charlie Crist and GOP consultant Wayne Bertsch are now reporting state Republicans were actively seeking ways to suppress Democratic turnout following the 2008 election stating, “I know that the cutting out of the Sunday before Election Day was one of their targets only because that's a big day when the black churches organize themselves."

So there you have it, proof that the Republicans were working to suppress democrat voters.


Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Article comment by: Anosn's Nephew

“Sounds like it came from some sort of chain email to me.”

Then prove it.


Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Randi Grogan:

Your facts are not factual but no surprise there.

You left out the military ballots that never got mailed and folks sat in the corner in FL and filled them out for them....for obama.

You left out how hard it is now to even get a ballot sent for the military.

Your remark seemed to intimate the evil rich were Republicans. You seem to forget the rich in America are mostly liberals. To that I say, go ahead and raise their taxes. It will hurt the libs more than the conservatives.

While you are at it, how about making those 48% on the other side who pay no taxes put some skin in the game. And I don't refer to retirees on Medicare. You know EXACTLY who I mean. The ones in line for freebies at the local DES. ANYTHING would be better then sitting in the wagon letting others pull you forever.

Once while in line trying to get work, I heard a guy on everything ahead of me saying he had been offered a job for $12 an hour and told them where to go. No way HE was working for that piddly amount. I had been working for $8 and glad to get it before the business had to close.

Just curious. WHY would you vote for a person w/a failed record and unemployment HIGHER four years later than when he went into office? You could have voted for a man who built a successful business instead.


Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012
Article comment by: V Stokes

@ Randi Grogan-Musante
You post all these numbers as facts...with no source and then say "Look it up". Really? That's it?

Sounds like it came from some sort of chain email to me.


Posted: Monday, November 26, 2012
Article comment by: Randi Grogan-Musante

40% of the American Military Forces overseas voted for President Obama. 14,000 are on Food Stamps in 2000. Those Military Men and Women who voted for Mitt Romney were Officers who obviously don't need extra support. Lately a lot of complaints have been made about the food stamp program.

From 2008 to 2009 military families were using food stamps at twice the rate as civilians, 25 percent to 13 percent. About $31 million of food stamps were used in nationwide commissaries.

The reason I posted these facts is the GOP Radical Right want entitlements eliminated, why would the rich want to be bothered with those struggling including the Military, yet want to increase Military spending 2 Trillion. Also more enlisted men and women voted for President Obama not Mitt Romney, they don't want to keep fighting unnecessary wars, look it up.

From the final election numbers as of 11-26-12. 4,029,713 more popular votes than Mitt Romney. America has spoken.


Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

"With Republican govenors (FL, MI, OH) already setting out to suppress the next vote, I fear you are right"

Sorry AN, no proof means it is just your opinion, not fact. At least there are some years ahead in which to make sure that much of the democrat rabble, otherwise known as their voting base, will have to show a photo I.D. to vote.


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

aa:

Election fraud such concern you. Obviously, it does not and you haven't got what it takes to really look into it.

If I have time in the next week, I may lay it all out for you since you are unable to do so for yourself.

When a country throws God out, election fraud is the new norm.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Well we can all expect our local birthers to whine for the next four years about fraud, their silly conspiracy theories guess its to be expected they have absolutely nothing valid, viable to say about anything else! I am reminded of a baby crying, whining wanting their pacifier, guess they will be unhappy as it seems they have nothing else viable in their unhappy lives than to cry and whine 24/7! Between their impeachment fantasy and their secession sedtion and treason fantasies one has to just laugh at them!

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"Why did you deliberately ignore the Washington TImes article about fraud and disobeying the law in Florida to allow observers to "observe". They were denied that lawful right and you dismissed the entire story as if it was nothing."

The "article" you posted was an opinion piece, and editorial, not a news article. Remember, you are entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Why did you deliberately ignore the Washington TImes article about fraud and disobeying the law in Florida to allow observers to ‘observe’. They were denied that lawful right and you dismissed the entire story as if it was nothing.”

Perhaps we are all ignoring it because it appeared in the Washington Times – the print equivalent of FAUX News – “All Lies, All of the Time.”

“Therefore, we must conclude, there is now no way to have a lawful election in the United States of America.”

With Republican governors (Fl, MI, and OH) already setting out to suppress the next vote I fear you are right.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Chuckles:

Why did you deliberately ignore the Washington TImes article about fraud and disobeying the law in Florida to allow observers to "observe". They were denied that lawful right and you dismissed the entire story as if it was nothing.

No wonder you libs are so afraid of observers and fight so hard to keep anyone from watching ballot counts, etc. When they do find fraud, you simply dismiss it as nothing. Therefore, we must conclude, there is now no way to have a lawful election in the United States of America.

Congrats to Bozo the Clown's personal union, the SEIU who will tomorrow, one of the busiest flight days of the year, spend the day disrupting airports and ruining many Thanksgiving plans.

Work together? Hah! Bozo the Clown and his ilk are not about working together, they are about destroying our country and causing the most discord they possibly can.

Welcome to the Democrat pary, land of unrest. Thank God I lived through the 50's so at least I have some happy memories.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“The people sitting marking military ballots themselves, etc.”

No proof, no evidence.

“I proved the military vote was suppressed.”

It’s too and that the people actually in charge of vote counting put no stock in YOUR proof.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"You and Chuckles neglected to address the elephant in the room in Florida - the fraud. The people sitting marking military ballots themselves, etc."

The only documented fraud that came out of Florida was by the Republicans during registration. What you posted, falsely as fact, is only a rumor and has not been substantiated. Hence, no reason to address it. Remember, just because you post something does not make it fact.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Incidentally Chuckles:

I proved the military vote was suppressed. You didn't re-address it. It was suppressed last time around which I also posted and even the AP (left wingers) reported it.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Stokes:

You and Chuckles neglected to address the elephant in the room in Florida - the fraud. The people sitting marking military ballots themselves, etc.

You libs always address the gnat and ignore the elephant. Truth terrifies ungodly people because it shines the light into the darkenss.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Schmo:

In battleground states such as Ohio, there was fraud in the counties that counted. Remember the Electoral College? The fraud this time around is almost sickening - after so much of it, I couldn't continue as it ran from one end of the country to the other but really hit the battleground states.

In a word, the non-Christians are winning and we have the least devout people in our history now in office. You get rid of God in a country founded on Him, every evil takes His place. Just look at this forum. Most of the liberals on here openly confess they are atheists - and proud to be so.

So God says, if that's what you want, you are going to get it and then He lifts His hand to show what a country devoid of morals and absolutes and His loving hand looks like. It is the ONLY way to bring the people back and sometimes they simply do not come back. The country then perishes.

Atheism/socialism was behind every single horror in this world including Hitler, Stalin, etc. If you knew any history, you would know that. Twenty some years after the Soviet empire's sudden collapse, socialism is on the march again but this time in America.

The rest of the world already knows. We, in our wisdom, are too stupid to see the truth put before our eyes. Socialism worldwide has caused lost lives, lost freedoms, economies destroyed. Sound familiar? Our final straw was the Gov now owning healthcare, Hitler's last to take over.

You liberal Americans are too stupid to heed the warnings so ruin will once again hit. You see how business has reacted to obama's fraudulent re-election - businesses terrified. And we have not even addressed UN Initiative 21.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: JIST me sittin

just spoke to my son, out of 50 marines in his company he said only 8 requested ballots. He and two others sent them in.
Two other marines in his unit are Mexican nationals, i guess they really chewed on the other Marines for not bothering to register and/or vote.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Joe Schmo

Linda:

Oh and by the way Allen West (R-Crazytown) conceded this morning to Patrick Murphy. But don't feel sorry for him, I figure he has a cushy gig on Faux News just waiting for him.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Joe Schmo

Linda:

At last count President Obama is ahead of Mitt Romney by 3.96 million votes or 3.14% of the total popular vote. So you are saying that roughly 4 million votes for Obama are fraudlent and/or an additional 4 million votes for Romney were left uncounted?

4 million votes is an awful lot of voter fraud. Maybe next time you should back up your ascertains with some actual facts that would prove this claim.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: V Stokes

I think someone has had a complete meltdown. Stories and fables with no facts. Most posts(if you bother to search) are editorials....not actual news stories.


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