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11/18/2012 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Headed for a train wreck

Regarding the Nov. 8 letter, "Relieved after Obama win" by Penny Gabriel:

First off, I commend you for not showing the open animosity that most Democrats exhibit, but I must also criticize you (and most who voted for Obama) for your profound lack of understanding of our situation as a nation. For starters, because of your vote, we are headed for a worse economic train wreck than the Great Depression for the following reasons:

1. We enter a phase of the temporary debt ceiling agreement that expires on Dec. 31 in which there will be massive tax increases and massive spending cuts. The worst of these cuts will be in our military, which in turn will cause massive job losses in many related industries (worse than the H.W. Bush cuts that caused the early 1990's recession). During that recession, most areas of the economy were doing well, but the military cuts created enough job/production losses to cause negative growth and overall increased unemployment numbers in spite of many growing sectors of the economy. This time, the cuts will occur when the economy is much weaker across a broader range of industries, and the accompanying tax increases will cause a spike in outsourcing, foreclosures and business closures that will be very severe.

On top of this we have ObamaCare. Because of a set of provisions that went into effect on Dec. 31 of last year, Medcath (which was the largest U.S.-based corporation of its kind) chose to liquidate its assets and dissolve the corporation because after the ObamaCare mandates it would become nearly impossible to remain profitable. Incidentally, they did not show any losses leading up to the dissolution, and this last year was one of the most profitable they had ever had, but projections for post ObamaCare conditions showed massive losses rather than profits.

So, I again thank you for your sympathy and kind intentions, but you have just helped create the situation that you feared.

Jeff Jacobson

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, November 25, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

"What is curious is that FLS is the ONLY person who shows up here posting the term racist and making racist comments"

Really? I’m the "ONLY" person that comes to mind for you? LoL

Let me remind you AGAIN of Lori Hyphenated's writings:

"Is anyone, except a few of us, wondering where the KKK or the white supremacists
are? Did they just disappear back into the slime of mucky waters from whence they
came? You would think that with our first black-skinned president, they would be protesting and demonstrating back and forth in front of the White House, spewing their indignation that a black man would dare to seek the highest office in the land. But I haven't seen them, have you? Oh, wait - maybe I have seen them."

And:

"The current Tea Party want to take our country back. From whom. A black skinned
man that's who."

You had 8 comments on that one.

Oh look, its Lori Hyphenated again on 10/31/12:

"In my letter, I said that the LEADERS of the Tea Party are racists. You know, like the Koch brothers who are funding the Tea party groups, who are spreading horrific lies about the president. “

You commented on that particular thread multiple times.

How about lib/leftist bigotry?

"God is sending a message that he will not tolerate having a lying Mormon lead our nation down a pathway that goes against his teachings"

Recognize it? you should, its one of your own. Deny it, please, so I can provide more of them.

Maybe you just have that weird leftist mindset "It's not racist when we do it". LoL

Do you really think no one will ever check when you say something that’s clearly untrue?

LOL


Posted: Saturday, November 24, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Oh...wait...did anyone read ‘pass that cost onto consumers’. Wouldn't that mean raising the price of a pizza?”

I’m sorry but your post appears to be – at best – rather disjointed. However as to the above comment. “Papa John” said pizza costs might go up by twelve to fourteen cents. I would be more than happy to pay a dollar or even two more for the product if it were to mean that everyone would have access to health care.

And I have pointed out that I would also be willing to pay as mush a $50 a month in additional taxes to inure that each American have access to health care. And yes, unlike many of the usual suspects here, I do pay federal income taxes.


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: It's Okay!

@ Linda

It's okay Linda, sit back and enjoy the ride, next stop, the ousting of the current GOP in 2014. All of the temper tantrums you throw will not change that.


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: V Stokes

@Anson's Nephew
Backpedaling....or clarifying? Since you know the media always goes for the flash...perhaps they reported what they wanted?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57553113-10391739/papa-johns-ceo-my-obamacare-claims-were-twisted/

Reading the conference call comments....oh darn...$.15-.20 per order. Of course they will make massive cuts in employee hours...I mean...gosh...who would pay that for a convenience item? Oh...wait...did anyone read "pass that cost onto consumers". Wouldn't that mean raising the price of a pizza?

And since I imagine most stores are franchises....lets lay it on the individual owners what happens.

I'm still waiting to see if my prediction of the political rhetoric here at KDM dies down by Fed. I doubt it, with all the fanatics on both sides.


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

TJ Denton said:

"as lori has on many occasions used and played the "racist" card. Nice try though."

To which you replied:

"Nope, never happened. Nice try though,"

Did you do your usual extensive research on that? LOL

From the very first paragraph of Mrs. Hyphenated's letter to the editor dated 10/26, titled "

"Is anyone, except a few of us, wondering where the KKK or the white supremacists are? Did they just disappear back into the slime of mucky waters from whence they came? You would think that with our first black-skinned president, they would be protesting and demonstrating back and forth in front of the White House, spewing their indignation that a black man would dare to seek the highest office in the land. But I haven't seen them, have you? Oh, wait - maybe I have seen them."

And:

"The current Tea Party want to take our country back. From whom. A black skinned man that's who."

If that's not accusing others of being racists and playing the race card......I don't know what is. And that was just the most recent time she did it. Given her "Hinckley-like" obsession with obama, there have been others.

I Find it odd you cannot remember that recent letter, considering you commented on it 8 freakin' times when it was up.

Faulty memory, Anson?




Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

"people stayed away in droves"

And wqe now this because you have done your usual "research" and have proof of that, right? Or is it just usual AN BS? As you say "be specific". And a article from media matters or huffpo is not a legitimate source.

Your claim of people staying away in droves could just be the usuasl leftist hyperbol. You know, like leftist claims that thousands of walmart workers would be walking out today. LOL

What i heard was not a back track but a clarification that francise owners could do what they wish.

Of course, after things quiet down a bit, and the economy continues to worsen, both Papa Johns and Dennys can resume firing and cutting back as needed.

And nope, I don't have to leave. The one thing you leftists never seem to remember is that ultimatly the 2nd Ammendment solution is available, if needed. And the left is seriously outgunned.


Posted: Friday, November 23, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Really anson? Because i think we all remember her little, tea party leaders are kkk members and nothing but "racist slime". I mean its in print! You are seriously going to try and argue that she didnt when it on this very website? So yes she has played that card! Sorry to tell you, but its a plain fact!...nice try though

Posted: Thursday, November 22, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Obama's America -

The turkey named Peace obama pardoned last year was euthanized Monday. Peace being euthanized under obama is frankly nothing new.

Deer attacks two men, then takes man's cigarettes. (Familiar to me as once, sitting up on Pikes Peak, a deer came over and took my Pall Mall's out of my purse and left).

Two men slaughter family's pet turkey for Tgiving dinner.

Shopper threatens to stab two people in line at KMart

LAPD plans crackdown on Black Friday shoppers.

Neighborhood on alert as wild turkeys attack residents and vehicles.

Woman reports Salvation Army workers for ringing their bells.

NYC Penn Station suspended on busiest travel day of year.

Top 5 states to be hardest hit by obama 2013 tax increases - voted for obama.

Sandy victims suffering from wide variety of physical ailments - help still not reaching many.

Cambodia's First Lady disses obama with bow reserved for servants.

Ships crew say they never witnessed UBL being buried at sea.

WH won't release films of obama team during Benghazi.

All is well in peaceful Obama's America.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

The Facts:

Your question is unanswerable because Romney would not have won the Democrat nomination because he would never have run as a Dem.

He is for smaller government, dumping big spending, dumping government agencies that are duplicates or ineffective, pro-life, self dependency, dumping funding for entities such as PBS that pulls in multi-millions and needs no gov't funding, and #1, against the hated obamacare that will destroy us. So no, he would never have even run as a Dem.

So, again, can't be answered. Romney's big problem if you want to call it that is that he is a good guy - a workaholic, an honest person who helps others with no expectation of repayment. He is polite, kind and caring.

Obama is just the opposite. He never uses his own money but spends YOUR money like there is no tomorrow. He shows up for work late, dumps most of the work off on other people, has no problem golfing constantly, wasting multiple thousands flying on separate planes than Mooochelle to the same event, etc.

So they come from two different worlds. One, a self reliant person, the other, a person who wants to control others but feels like he is entitled. Romney is soft and even tempered and happy. Obama is mad and hateful much of the time.

Romney believes in hard work and American exceptionalism. He believes you can keep what you earn but gives more than most himself. Obama doesn't and feels like we are evil and need to be brought down a notch. He is everything America was NOT founded on.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ FLS

Once again you came down on the wrong side as you denigrated my comments about boycotting those fools who planned to cut employee hours and put “Obamacare” surcharges in place. It would appear as if we “libs” won the battle as people all across the nation told “Papa John” exactly what they thought of his foolishness and the moron who owns the Denney’s franchises in the southeast suffered major losses over the past week as people stayed away in droves from his operations.

The two have backtracked on their totally ridiculous ideas with “Papa John” admitting that he actually welcomes the implementation of AHCA.

It is time for the Republicans to face up to the fact that two-thirds of the American people do not want to see the AHCA repealed and those who continue to whine about need to grow up and accept the fact that the American people – ALL of the American people – are going to have access to health care.

And of course those who hate America and American workers and post vitriolic statements need to pack their bags and leave, believe me you will not be missed.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

"Actually that is a blatantly false statement as lori has on many occasions used and played the "racist" card. Nice try though.<

Nope, never happened. Nice try though.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: The Facts

So I guess there is nobody willing to answer my question posted earlier honestly. I even expected the obvious GOP pundit replies but no joy. So I am to assume if Obama was a GOP nominee he would of been elected anyway.

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

""What is curious is that FLS is the ONLY person who shows up here posting the term racist and making racist comments. ""

Actually that is a blatantly false statement as lori has on many occasions used and played the "racist" card. Nice try though.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@FLS

"Perhaps if you got your news from somewhere other that media matters or daily KOS you would know that many of the examples she listed have been covered by the MSM as well. Me? I have not seen WND in years.

Nice try at pretending these things are not really happening.

Hows that ovomit economic recovery looking?"

Yeah, I am sure you have not looked at WND in years. We will for sure take your word for it. (note the sarcasm).

As to what you call MSM....since Faux News claims, relatively accurately I might add, that they are the number 1 news network in the country, that makes them the MSM you speak of, and I agree, the MSM always lies.

As to the recorvery, it is coming along, slow but sure. Going to take a long time for anybody to dig out of the hole Bush and Obama got us in.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Nice Chuckle

Perhaps if you got your news from somewhere other that media matters or daily KOS you would know that many of the examples she listed have been covered by the MSM as well. Me? I have not seen WND in years.

Nice try at pretending these things are not really happening.

Hows that ovomit economic recovery looking?

LOL


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Must be sad to wake up and know the party of Lincoln is the train wreck coming, not this nation, which will surive and get through this momentary economic woe, recessions, depressions have come and gone in history more than once and they do pass eventually! Fearmongering only garners the weak of mind who cannot think for themselves, we now know they number at minimum 750,000 who signed the secession petitions!

Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"Today's headlines:

Unions shut down LAX traffic

Record number use food stamps for holiday

400% increase in food pantry usage

Chicago Godfather Mayor Rahm Immanuel orders Driver's Licenses for illegals

Chaos erupts at Newark city hall, police pepper spray residents

Parents upset at school plans to take kids to a church to watch Charlie Brown's Xmas - don't want their kids in a church, afraid it might rub off.

MSNBC reports GOP is on a witch hunt for dark skinned people.

Obama's constituency groups checklist leaves out whites and men.

At first, I thought I was reading news from Greece but alas, it was just the peace of our own holiday. Welcome to obama's America."

Perhaps if you would stop reading the notoriously lying WND, you could get real news then.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@OKR

"The world is bigger than the comment section of the Kingman Daily Miner and there are more leftists than the "usual suspects" who frequent this web site."

I agree with you, however...read FLS comment again. He said "YOU" could always do that. Referring to me. I do not do that, FLS is the one who is always bringing race into the conversation.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Today's headlines:

Unions shut down LAX traffic

Record number use food stamps for holiday

400% increase in food pantry usage

Chicago Godfather Mayor Rahm Immanuel orders Driver's Licenses for illegals

Chaos erupts at Newark city hall, police pepper spray residents

Parents upset at school plans to take kids to a church to watch Charlie Brown's Xmas - don't want their kids in a church, afraid it might rub off.

MSNBC reports GOP is on a witch hunt for dark skinned people.

Obama's constituency groups checklist leaves out whites and men.

At first, I thought I was reading news from Greece but alas, it was just the peace of our own holiday. Welcome to obama's America.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“FLS is correct about the use of the term racists against anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line.”

What is curious is that FLS is the ONLY person who shows up here posting the term racist and making racist comments.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“You don't find it a little odd that THE VERY WEEK AFTER OBAMA IS RE-ELECTED, HUNDREDS OF COMPANIES LAY OFF, CUT HOURS OR CLOSE ALTOGETHER????”

Nope, not odd in the least. Just shows that the whiners cannot accept the will of the American people and are going to do their best to continue the economic destruction of our nation that began with the Reign of Error of The Criminal. Just a bunch of anti-American sleazes.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

cosmo topper:

Your view of Christianity is very limitied. We are to fight evil and lies.

Psalm 133:1 says "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!"

Your guy has done all he can to split the country apart. He pushes class warfare and every other kind of "split" he possibly can. In fact, he has split this country in ways most of us throught was impossible. Divide and conquer. He is doing it. You are telling the WRONG people.

He is a liar and evil and his intention is to bring us down, thwart our Constitution and make us a third world country because he sees us as evil rather than the beacon of hope that the rest of the world admired for 200 years. He is convincing. Devils always are.

He has stated we are no longer Christian, that muslims helped found us....both are lies. In fact, the NEW Thanksgiving story is also a lie.

Daily, God gives me Psalms 144:1 - "Blessed be the Lord, my strength, who teacheth my hands to war and my fingers to fight ".

And "having done all...to stand". We are to stand against evil. Obama is evil. That standing always starts on our knees.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Please Explain

@ Linda

Oh I think I connected the dots perfectly fine. As for thinking on my own, I think I did a pretty good job by pointing out what was BS and not a blunder.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@Chuckle

The world is bigger than the comment section of the Kingman Daily Miner and there are more leftists than the "usual suspects" who frequent this web site.

FLS is correct about the use of the term racists against anyone who doesn't toe the liberal line.

Just this week the House Representatives who interviewed Susan Rice were accused by a House Democrat of using "code words" to make a racist attack against her.

In actuality, they were only commenting that it was inept to send a government official out to speak on 5 Sunday news shows to inform the American public when that government official claims that she actually had no knowledge about the situation and was only repeating talking points that were given to her, by some other unknown government agency.

Apparently stating that doing business this way is inept is a huge racial slur in the leftist world. Who knew!

Racism is alive and well in Obama's continued reign.


Posted: Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Article comment by: cosmo topper

Nobody on here sounds very intelligent or Christian to me. Turn the other cheek, love one another, render unto Caesar what is Caeser's. What a bunch of crybabies. I am not a registered democrat or republican. I am and Independent and will stay that way. Thanks for nothing.


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