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11/18/2012 6:00:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Headed for a train wreck

Regarding the Nov. 8 letter, "Relieved after Obama win" by Penny Gabriel:

First off, I commend you for not showing the open animosity that most Democrats exhibit, but I must also criticize you (and most who voted for Obama) for your profound lack of understanding of our situation as a nation. For starters, because of your vote, we are headed for a worse economic train wreck than the Great Depression for the following reasons:

1. We enter a phase of the temporary debt ceiling agreement that expires on Dec. 31 in which there will be massive tax increases and massive spending cuts. The worst of these cuts will be in our military, which in turn will cause massive job losses in many related industries (worse than the H.W. Bush cuts that caused the early 1990's recession). During that recession, most areas of the economy were doing well, but the military cuts created enough job/production losses to cause negative growth and overall increased unemployment numbers in spite of many growing sectors of the economy. This time, the cuts will occur when the economy is much weaker across a broader range of industries, and the accompanying tax increases will cause a spike in outsourcing, foreclosures and business closures that will be very severe.

On top of this we have ObamaCare. Because of a set of provisions that went into effect on Dec. 31 of last year, Medcath (which was the largest U.S.-based corporation of its kind) chose to liquidate its assets and dissolve the corporation because after the ObamaCare mandates it would become nearly impossible to remain profitable. Incidentally, they did not show any losses leading up to the dissolution, and this last year was one of the most profitable they had ever had, but projections for post ObamaCare conditions showed massive losses rather than profits.

So, I again thank you for your sympathy and kind intentions, but you have just helped create the situation that you feared.

Jeff Jacobson

Kingman

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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Please explain:

You haven't connected the dots yet?

You don't find it a little odd that THE VERY WEEK AFTER OBAMA IS RE-ELECTED, HUNDREDS OF COMPANIES LAY OFF, CUT HOURS OR CLOSE ALTOGETHER????

Whatever school you are in, they are not teaching you to think on your own. Good thing you have me.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@FLS

"Of course, you could always just bleat that they are all rascists. That's pretty popular with leftists these days"

I don't know about that. You are the one who keeps bringing up race. It must concern you an awful lot since you can't seem to go one day without mentioning it.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Please Explain

Thank you Linda. You answered my question with your answer. In other words no matter what pr-existing problems a company has had, no matter how far back it started, you will blame on Obama and if you make a mistake you will not admit to it. I just had to make a point to my classmates.

Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Terms You Can Understand

I'm going to put this in terms that everybody should be able to understand.

Romney was no more than the Geek in the class. In gym class he was always the last one to be picked for a team. Or you could say he is always the kid that finds out only a minority of the class like. Simple!


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Please explain:

Take another gander. I didn't go into Hostess since it's all over the news. I just said you already know, assuming if you post on here, you surely must watch news shows.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Please Explain

@ Linda

You totally avoid the answer I posed as usual. Since Hostess was filing for Bankruptcy (Re-Alignment) in 2004, then filed again in January of 08, then please explain exactly how Obama is to blame for Hostess Brands shutdown. I'm trying to narrow down your "Lists" of shutdown/lay-offs to see which ones are actually valid. Thank you.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"You have a lot to crow about. It must be great to know your guy got in in spite of national fraud and lies "

Again, the only documented cases of fraud in this election came from the Republcians. When are you going to address that?


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

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Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

"Why do you think all these companies are laying off, shortening hours or closing entirely since obama's re-election?????

Do you have an answer to that question? He's re-elected. They are laying off or closing.

WHY?????? Closing down is a big deal. WHY are they doing it? Because they think obama, after four years of total socialistic failure, will suddenly turn it around???? So they are closing because they think we are now going to be in better shape?

You live in lala land."

Yes, somebody does live in LaLa land, and it appears that it is this poster.

How about you address the fact that Allen West finally admitted defeat, and took yet another close to dishonorable discharge.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Lori:

You have a lot to crow about. It must be great to know your guy got in in spite of national fraud and lies and has been met with hundreds and hundreds of companies downsizing or closing.

Even THAT doesn't seem to turn on a light bulb in your brain? So enamored of obama's success, they are running like hell to close down including his green companies.

Incidentally, there are less and less rich to carry the masses and no amount of money the rich have will carry the rest of the country. You wrongly thought they could just like you wrongly thought there was a war on women.

Let's hope you don't have family included in the layoffs like I do. My son in law got laid off after nearly 20 years with a big company. My daughter in laws father got laid off after 38 years driving a gasoline truck - making big money. No jobs, he is now delivering milk at less than half what he made and had to declare bankrupcy. All hail messiah obama and his great economy.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: The Facts

I have a serious question and of coarse I am expecting the "normal" results but I'm willing to hear those in light of some serious answers.

"If Romney had been the Democratic nominee, would he had been elected?

"If Obama was the Republican nominee, would the GOP have still voted for him?


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Caroline Glick in part - Front page mag.

While we have been overwhelmed by the European failed model of social democracy...the Tuesday night celebrants cannot stop the coming storm for the full consequences of obama's statist policies have not yet been felt.

Nationized healthcare won't fully hit until 2014 after which we will watch old men and women die due to the fed govt denying lifesaving, expensive treatments. Dr's will leave due to dwindling Medicare reimbursements.

Obama college supporters will find themselves doomed in low-paying jobs, life long indebtedness, years of failure to pay off college loans. Finally, $16 Trillion in debt will have meaning to them and they will be locked into a govt controlled economy requiring silence or losing their livelihoods.

The consequences of o's foreign policy will become reality. Benghazi, caused by his appeasing jihadists strategy had the potential to sink him but this time, was small enough to be hid by the media. After all, only 4 slaughtered, and one day.

Damage control will get harder when Iran gets nuclear weapons, begins molesting US Persian Gulf shipping, gas rises to $10 a gallon. Harder yet when American tourists in Egypt are massacred or held until the Brotherhoods demands for the release of the Blind Sheikh are met.

Even harder when the returning Taliban rebuilds training camps in Afghanistan - harder to find a hapless American filmmaker to blame when Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is Taliban controlled and seeks war w/India.

And it will be harder for obama to protect America with a gutted, demoralized military, demobilized under his command.

Obama and his statist, pro-islamist supporters will again blame their critics as he has successfully done since the start rather than home and international mayhem necessarily caused by his own policies. Americans are blinded fools.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"He has done all those things and yet is not in prison starting with putting out a fraudulent birth certificate and being ineligible to be POTUS in the first place by reason of his father Sr not being a citizen of the U. S. for one thing."

I knew when the layoffs excuse was shot down you would have to find something else. So now you are going to beat that dead horse again. Obama's B/C is real and he IS a Natural Born Citizen and IS eligible to be POUTS. If he is not, then neither is one of your heroes.....Marco Rubio.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Libs on here:

Why do you think all these companies are laying off, shortening hours or closing entirely since obama's re-election?????

Do you have an answer to that question? He's re-elected. They are laying off or closing.

WHY?????? Closing down is a big deal. WHY are they doing it? Because they think obama, after four years of total socialistic failure, will suddenly turn it around???? So they are closing because they think we are now going to be in better shape?

You live in lala land.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Parts of New York still without power. Is he going there again?”

Actually the president has done much to help those suffering in the Hurricane Sandy nightmare.

Now for the big question. Where is Willard the Money Hider? You told us what a great guy he is and how he always helps people. Why aren’t Willard and Lil Ayn Ryan in New York, New Jersey or Connecticut helping out? Neither of these losers has anything else to do.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“He has done all those things and yet is not in prison starting with putting out a fraudulent birth certificate and being ineligible to be POTUS in the first place by reason of his father Sr not being a citizen of the U. S. for one thing.”

Every time you have posted this in the past three-and-half years it has been wrong and it is wrong today and it will be wrong the next time you post it.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Please Explain

@ Linda

Please explain exactly how Obama is to blame for Hostess Brands shutdown. I'm trying to narrow down your "Lists" of shutdown/lay-offs to see which ones are actually valid. Thank you.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Chuckles:

I already pointed out I put the ORLANDO SENTINEL, Nov 19, 2012 at the head of my list which is neither here nor there. Won't be the first time you can't read.

The real problem is, you never actually FACE the problem. You swat at the gnat in the room and totally ignore the elephant which is the little trick you play, thinking we have all missed the big picture (the list of layoffs) and are focused on the nonsense of your gnat, whether they decided before or after the election. .

Let's try some actual reasoning, something you libs are very short on like the guy on here that said if obama had done all the things he is accused of, he would be in prison. He has done all those things and yet is not in prison starting with putting out a fraudulent birth certificate and being ineligible to be POTUS in the first place by reason of his father Sr not being a citizen of the U. S. for one thing.


But I digress. Companies would prepare ahead of time for whichever way the election went. When it went this badly and obama got back in, even though the election was obviously thrown again, they already knew they had to layoff, shorten hours or close down entirely.

Enter the lists following the election. THAT is the elephant in the room - that they had to take these drastic actions because they already know under o they cannot make it. Had Romney, a business creator made it, they would not be closing. END OF CASE. And please stop insulting our intelligence with your stupid bait and switch moves. They are getting old.


Incidentally, it matters not how old the hospital is and I used the Sentinels year, the people are just as laid off as if the hospitals opened ten years ago. Another bait and switch.


Posted: Tuesday, November 20, 2012
Article comment by: Az Brat

@ now it's fair

Yes-predudice and discrimination still exit! It comes from the Black Caucus in congress every time there legitiment questions about Benghazi and those in the admin.Even some's "President"!! Susan Rice didn't have the gall to do what would've been the Right thing to do--Refuse to go out and tell an absolute Lie to the American people! Being highly critized for her lack of good sense and judgement--It is now all about racism and sexism-That coming from the likes of Marcia Fudge Ohio and her caucas.
This nation has become the worst in years referenc racism since BO took office in 2008!!!!
What a waste for this country and IT's People.
You will see economy go to the cliff and Right on Over. TOO BAD BO's camp got so many votes from those who really don't know what's really in the wind!! All I can believe is this whole fiasco is in God's hands and we should all be praying.
Obama care alone has 23 new taxes in place-Do any who voted BO believe he will really give them a break? Don't bet on it!
Had I been in Susan Rice's shoes you can bet I would have told BO to go do his own dirty work!!!!!!!!!!! Don't believe me, ask our sheriff-it wasn't same situation but I stood up for what was right instead of letting 3 deputies run over me-Yeah and know what they respected me more for taking the stand and I could sleep with myself for having done it!!


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Lori Gabriel-Dane

To Linda Athens and the rest of you Obama-haters::

I remember the 2010 election and how you all gloated over how many tea party idiots were elected. Well, I have only two words to describe this election:

REVERSE SHELLACKING! Live with it.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Nice chuckle

And if romney had won, perhaps there would have been no layoffs. Does your brain really have that much trouble understanding the concept of pre-planning? Sounds like that is what happened. They planned ahead, ovomit won, and now they are laying people off in anticipation of things getting worse in the economy for them in the near future.

So how exactly do you know they layoffs were not carried out because of the election results? Answer: You don't know.

Of course, you could always just bleat that they are all rascists. That's pretty popular with leftists these days

LOL


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Hohoho!
What part of Orlando Sentinel, TODAY'S DATE did you miss? So they are liars?

But I am so proud of obama. He's off in Thailand today - blathering away like he likes to do. Means absolutely nothing - anything he says. Words have consequences but he ignores that - just loves to hear his big voice booming out across the crowd - as if he has something of import to say.

Parts of New York still without power. Is he going there again? Today pink slips appeared on demolished houses telling them to get their permits and get going or they would be fined? How comforting. Probably old white people so he would rather be doing important biz in Thailand??? After all, old whites probably don't relate to "homeboys".

Israel under attack - needs money to put a hospital in a bomb shelter. 3000 hits from the Gaza strip in three years - more than all the hits Hitler made on London - so says Glenn Beck today. I believe him. When has obama ever visited Israel since he became POTUS?


Now would be a great time - but...he's busy in Thailand listening to his own important words and slobbering on that poor woman much to her horror. Embarrassing, like toasting over the British anthem. Tres chic o.

Interesting how no left wing media has EVER been heard asking why the nearly 30, some extremely wealthy, arab countries don't pitch in and help the so called poor Palestinians who voted Hamas in. Why is that do you suppose? Because they LOVE using those dopes. And the dopes on here never get it either.

Notice how there is no real happiness that obama won again? Everyone is mad, scared, fearful, in disarray, wondering about the future of our country?


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@FLS

"What makes you think a businessman would not, or should not, make plans ahead of time for the worst possible scenario?"

Don't think that at all. But, saying these layoffs are BECAUSE of the election is false. These plans were made before. That is my point. And surely you were agree.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

Further, you need to read the story you stole this from and then added misinformation to make it seem worse.

I love how they can say they are losing money when One, they are a not for profit hospital, and two they also announced a 300 million expansion and a 50 million primary care buyout. Sorry, sounds like Allen West and Myth Romney double talk here.


Posted: Monday, November 19, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"For the first time in 100 years, Orlando Health is reducing it's workforce by 400 positions starting immediately in 8 of their hospitals including Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children."

I was actually able to stop right there to know this is not true. Two minutes of research showed me that Orlando Health has not been around for 100 years. LoLoL

Nice Try.



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