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12/13/2012 6:01:00 AM
Kingman Letter: Enough with the rants and raves

After the presidential election 20 years ago, the Miner published a letter from Roy Dunton. In his letter, Mr. Dunton ranted and raved how Clinton/Gore were going to destroy this nation with their liberal/progressive agenda. I seem to recall that during the Clinton administration, this country did quite well in job growth and gains in the middle class, and even the banks paid a respectable interest on savings accounts and IRAs. All this, and the top tax rate was 39 percent.

Now the next generation of the Duntons, Scott, writes a column that presents absolutely nothing new but regurgitates the sound bites, rants and raves geared toward the low-information voter by the Republican National Committee. The election is over. Why don't you get out of your box, pull your head out of your low-level micro-thinking and try thinking at the macro level?

The more moderate Republicans at the top of the party have started to realize that the nation's demographics are changing and the party has to change as well. The election pretty well proved where this country is heading. David Frum, a well-known Republican columnist, is the one who stated the problem so well: "GOP - You're old, you're white, you're history."

Scott, perhaps you and all the other low-information types should start working on your rants and raves for four years from now when Hillary becomes the next president.

Al Koffman

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Monday, December 17, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Susan Rice's role in some of those attacks have come forth questioning her competency for Sec. of State.”

Could you please provide us with some empirical evidence regarding Ms Rice’s “role in some of those attacks?” Be specific – did she plant a bomb, lob a grenade, fund a terrorist? Be specific please.


Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Edward Tomchin

My only question is why Nancy Lanza, Adam Lanza's mother and a teacher at the grade school, had a 9mm Sig Sauer semi-automatic hand gun, a 9mm Glock semi-automatic hand gun, and a Bushmaster .223 M4 carbine assault rifle at home? What the hell did she need those weapons for? She had to have known her son was mentally unstable. If those guns were not available there is a fair chance this tragedy would never have happened.

Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: The Innocent Children Becoming Victims Would be Few

And for those preaching no one will keep an intent person away from guns if he/she wants them...for those echoing the line "guns don't kill people, people kill people." You don't get it, you just don't get it. If fast-acting, easy-to-use, and deadly guns were rare, if the number of bullets fired at a time were limited by the weapon to 2 or 3 at the most, and if guns were computerized to allow only the gun owner to fire them, then that mentally ill person intent on killing innocent children it would only kill a very, very small number. I agree that no system will eliminate all such acts. You'll still have a jealous husband attacking his wife at work with a knife, or a postal worker wanting to kill his boss with a baseball bat, but the numbers would be much smaller.

Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@David Gaither

"No, you're right...me and my concealed weapon are going to hide and watch him kill child after child because I don't want to risk accidentally hitting one of the children!

Now this is how laughable a liberal can be on the gun issue!"

Well, calling me a liberal is laughable, yes.

Of course, typical gun toting Republican though, let's just kill them all, and if I hit an innocent, oh well, my bad.

Could someone carrying have saved lives, sure. Could someone carrying have caused more victims, just as sure.


Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

All why would you assume the people here are living poor? Im not, so maybe in the future you should just speak for yourself huh?

Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Tales from Looneyville as passed along by the intellectually challenged.

Obama –

Is a secret Muslim who speaks Arabic, attended a madrassa and was sworn in on a Koran.

Is secretly sneaking 100,000,000 Muslims into the U.S.A.

In his 20s worked for the CIA sneaking cash and weapons to the Afghans who later became the Taliban.

Has redecorated the Oval Office in a “Middle Eastern Style.”

Wears a ring inscribed with “There is no God accept Allah.”

Married his Pakistani male roommate while in college (this from known liar Jerome Corsi).

Was born in Kenya according to Trump the Chump, birther queen Orly Taitz and, of course, Corsi.

Killed his grandmother because she knew the truth (Corsi).

Lost his citizenship as a child (Corsi).

Is the son of Malcolm X according to anti-Muslim nut-case Pamela Geller.

Is the son of Frank Marshall Davis (from the really goofy film “Dreams of my Real Father”)

Is the son of Communists Barack Sr and Ann Dunham (Corsi)

Planned to overthrow the government (Hannity)

Refuses to say the Pledge of Allegiance (immediately debunked in 2008 and yet still circulates).

Secretly gave U.S. islands to Russia (which was actually done by George H. W. Bush in 1991)

Will put your kids in “reeducation camps (Crazy-eyes Michelle Bachmann)

Supports the United Nations Small Arms Treaty (which does not exist) to take away YOUR guns.

Will take away your gold (Glen Beck)

Will take your IRA (Townhall.com)

Caused the BP Oil Spill (Alex Jones)

Caused hurricane Sandy with a Pentagon weather modification system (Alex Jones)

Will fake an assassination attempt before the 2012 election to declare martial law (oops, kinda late on that one).

Is the Antichrist.

Went to Mars by teleportation according to two loons, Andrew Basiago and Williams Stillings.

And the laughs keep coming.

w/c299


Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Wrong Again

@ Linda

You said: "First, the Miner omitted my Clinton/Lewinsky remarks. ??? He was impeached for lying about it. Important!"

It was probably omitted because it was not accurate. His Impeachment had nothing to do with Lewinsky.

President Clinton was charged with two articles of impeachment for perjury and obstruction of justice relative to Paula Jones' civil suit against Clinton for sexual harassment. On February 12, 1999, President Clinton was acquitted of perjury charges by a vote of 55-45, and of obstruction of justice by a vote of 50-50. Conviction required a two-thirds vote of the Senate (at least 67 or 100).


Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“But MSNBC is already into talking of banning guns as this news is barely breaking.”

Incorrect information – as usual – from Ms Athens.


Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2012
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

@ Nice Chuckle

No I can't, however Susan Rice's role in some of those attacks have come forth questioning her competency for Sec. of State. Her involvement of investments in Iran. This admin. has been transparent only in their attempts of coverups. Benghazi one of the latest.


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: David Gaither

Nice Chuckle wrote:

"Also could have missed and hit yet another innocent child. You want to take that chance?"

No, you're right...me and my concealed weapon are going to hide and watch him kill child after child because I don't want to risk accidentally hitting one of the children!

Now this is how laughable a liberal can be on the gun issue!


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: You tell me

@ Nice Chuckle

"Also could have missed and hit yet another innocent child. You want to take that chance?"

Anything is possible, maybe not even hit another innocent child. One bad guy, one bullet, could of saved 18 lives. You tell me, is it worth the chance? Even our government would look at it as acceptable, remember Nagasaki, Hiroshima?


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Al Koffman

For those who live poor and vote rich

"A couple months ago, under pressure from Republicans, the Congressional Research Service, basically the think tank of Congress, took down a study on tax rates for the rich and the economy that rebutted a key GOP argument, that tax cuts at the top spurred economic growth. It didn’t matter that the Congressional Budget Office found almost the same thing, Republicans didn’t want in print a study showing no relationship between tax cuts for the rich and growth. That would ruin their whole program."


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"But MSNBC is already into talking of banning guns as this news is barely breaking. Hard to believe. If this deranged person was intent on doing this, no amount of laws would keep him from having these guns."

Funny, I have been watching coverage of this all day on both Fox and MSNBC. Only mention I have heard of gun control was from the White House saying this is not the time to discuss it.

"A person carrying a concealed weapon at the school might have stopped the shooter."

Also could have missed and hit yet another innocent child. You want to take that chance?


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: So True

@ Linda

" If this deranged person was intent on doing this, no amount of laws would keep him from having these guns."

I can't believe I'm saying this but this may be the only time I agree with you on anything.


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Im sure your comment was deleted anson...im sure! Anytime you get your foot in your mouth your replies are all of a sudden deleted, its so convienient...”

As ridiculous as it may seem my post re this comment was censored … uhh, deleted yesterday. So I will try again.

I have told you and your BFF multiple times that I ALWAYS RESPOND when a question is directed to me – even if it is in some stupid comment. If that response does not appear it is beyond my control. But once again I will assure that your prattle is ALWAYS RESPONDED TO!


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

As the CT shooting breaks with 18 kindergarten children gunned down along with 8 adults - along with others, my heart is grieving, my head is full of prayers.

I have a little one that age near me, so excited about Christmas as undoubtedly these 18 were. This is unthinkable.

But MSNBC is already into talking of banning guns as this news is barely breaking. Hard to believe. If this deranged person was intent on doing this, no amount of laws would keep him from having these guns.

A person carrying a concealed weapon at the school might have stopped the shooter.

I know everyone on here will finally agree, this is one of the worst tragedies we have seen in a very long time. May God comfort all those involved including the law enforcement there as children's violent deaths are very hard on lawmen.

I am just so sad.


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Amaryllis

" You can bet your bootie main stream media isn't going to do it for you! Benghazi is just one example."

An example of what exactly? An example of the same type of attack that happened a dozen times while Bush was in office and you don't bother to mention?

How about this. Can you name ONE person who was killed in any of the 12 attacks of this type while Bush was in office? Somehow, I bet you can't.


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Anson's Nephew:


First, the Miner omitted my Clinton/Lewinsky remarks. ??? He was impeached for lying about it. Important!

Libs constantly say if lower taxes produced higher growth, Bush yrs would've been more prosperous, Clinton less. Tax rates are complicated, interact w/other influences.

In '93, 3 yrs after H. W. Bush raised top marginal ordinary income rate from 29% to 31%, Clinton raised it to 39.6%.

Libs credit 90's budget surplus to Clinton's revenue increase. Inaccurate, tenuous at best. This happened AFTER Reagan spent a decade slashing the top rate from 70% to 28%. This staggering capital transfer from Treasury coffers to private markets is what truthfully shaped the prosperity of the 80's and 90's. REAGAN IS THE REAL HERO AS WE HAVE SAID ALL ALONG.

Libs point to the tech industry as evidence of a boom. ?? Apple, Oracle, Dell and more went public in the 80's. Clinton's tax policy deserves no credit for something decades in the making.

Libs say Clinton's 93 tax hike generated surplus turned over to Bush. Explain Clinton's 97 cap gains reduction from 28 to 20%. The surplus coincided with the NASDAQ surge so excess revenue came from cap gains, not ordinary income since C's 93 tax hikes yielded but ONE THIRD OF THE PROJECTED REVENUE which his own admin admitted.

The real answer to the late 90's surplus? OMB's own website - GOV'T SPENDING INCREASED BY ONLY 2.9% over 4 yrs in mid 90's. Clinton surplus - slowed govt spending and a boom decades in the making. THE EXACT FORMULA REPUBS ARE FOR. Slow spending, no tax increases. DUH!!

And to another poster. Obama IS destroying us!


Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

And another good Christian Republican steps forward and proves why they should never be allowed to be in the judiciary or hold public office.

Judge Derek Johnson sitting on an Orange County California Superior Court bench blasted a rape victim in court told a rape victim she, “… didn’t put a fight” during her assault and that if someone doesn’t want sexual intercourse the body, “will not permit it to happen.”

This moron made the comments in the case of a man who threatened to mutilate the face and genitals of his ex-girlfriend with a heated screwdriver, beat her with a metal baton and other violent threats before committing rape, forced oral copulation, and other crimes.

Instead of being tossed from the bench and being disbarred the ignorant fool was simply admonished.


Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Article comment by: tony wise

lets see higher taxes more goverment , less jobs, more poverty. higher utility bills. more people robbing from the poor. lets see obama care do you feel screwed yet. now lets see lets open a pot store. i guess if everyone gets high the goverment can just come in and haul you away. then put you in a federal run camp. pitiful theres not enough dope heads in the world. don't worry the goverment will take care of you. ha ha.

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Article comment by: Al Koffman

@TJ Yes, I will answer your question. Taken in the proper context it is not racist. However, comparing the two statements is like comparing oranges and apples. As I pointed out, David Frum is a well-known Republican columnist and his statement was the introduction to his column about where the Republicans went wrong and what they will have to do if they hope to be successful.

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

@anson nephew
And the son of the demo senator wasn't committing voter fraud-oh, that's because he was a demo, justified???? There are constantly scandals coming forth and were with held for the convience of bo! and his cronies.
Everyone in this nation should be bombarding the phone lines in D.C. demanding answers and stating their opinions on all issues-that is what keeps those people on their toes and demanding answers and actions!! You can bet your bootie main stream media isn't going to do it for you! Benghazi is just one example.
As for medicare and social security being compared to socialist europe-I don't think so but, it definitely needs some tweeking!
Don't any of you people get tired of hearing everytime spending and budget comes up in D.C. that it is your fault-being made to feel that something you contributed hard earned money into is referred to as some sort of social welfare program you intentionally sought out to benefit from at someone elses' expense?
No here ever calls out the EPA-those people are the worst!! Where are they when the atmosphere is being loaded with scud rockets,mortars and launches that break the ozone? Common sense has gone by wayside.


Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Article comment by: Liberal Lion

As I said earlier, all conservatives please announce the businesses you own so we can boycott them.

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Im sure your comment was deleted anson...im sure! Anytime you get your foot in your mouth your replies are all of a sudden deleted, its so convienient...as to everyone else, then ill make it fair. Democrats, youre young, and old, and white and black and needy and whiney and brainwashed. Is that more accurate??

Posted: Thursday, December 13, 2012
Article comment by: Al Koffman

The purpose of this letter was to point out that in spite of all the ranting and ravings, Clinton did not destroy this country. And in spite of all the current ranting and ravings, Obama is not going to destroy this country. Why do so many of you have to keep rehashing the past. The election is over. Try thinking positive and come up with something constructive.

@WES
I hate to burst that Republican bubble you exist in, but just because someone does not agree with you does not make them a socialist. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe you are enjoying the hell out those socialistic programs called Medicare and Social Security.



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