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1/2/2013 6:01:00 AM
Reader Letter: Honoring the 2nd Amendment

I, Gianluca Zanna, former legal immigrant from Rome, Italy, now naturalized American and proud citizen of the state of Arizona, a law-abiding citizen, a peaceful and not violent man until illegal violence will be used against me and my fellow Americans.

I stand in front of God as my witness, on the date of the 27th of December 2012 AD, I pledge my life, my wealth and my honor that I will never comply to any gun confiscation and I will never surrender any of my guns, rifles or weapons guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution and by the Arizona Constitution, to any federal, state, local or foreign agency that will try to enforce any unconstitutional illegal act with the purpose to deny me of my God-given right of self defense.

I am aware of the risks that I may incur for my life because of this decision. I understand that the odds to survive any act of non-compliance are against me, and this is a serious matter, but so it is my dignity, my liberty as an American and my 2nd Amendment.

In case of a gun confiscation, not only I will not comply with it, but I intentionally will refuse to hide or separate myself from my guns, and I will bear them as I normally do every day of my life in the great state of Arizona.

So help me God.

Gianluca Zanna

Golden Valley


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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Frank Lee Speaking" accuses Lori Gabriel-Dane of lying about being corrections officer Penny Gabriel's mother. He once accused me here of lying in a criminal case,..”

He constantly calls people liars here and somehow is allowed to get away with it.


Posted: Sunday, January 20, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

Oh, by the way Anson, in another thread here, "Frank Lee Speaking" accuses Lori Gabriel-Dane of lying about being corrections officer Penny Gabriel's mother. He once accused me here of lying in a criminal case, which is slander and actionable. Evidently, it was too much for him to witness a civil exchange between the two of us.

Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

@FLS & Anson....the scene from "Juarez" I referenced has Porfirio Diaz quoting Emperor Maximilian, that "only one word separates he and you", to which Benito Juarez naturally responds, "And what is that one word, Porfirio?" The word is 'freedom' and Juarez elicits a definition of the word from Diaz - that "we can have our own religion, and speak more or less what we wish". Benito Juarez rises slowly from his chair under a portrait of Abraham Lincoln, shakes his head, and says "Emperor Maximiliano gives us those things now. What is it that he does not give us?" Porfirio Diaz responds that they did not have the right to form their own Government - understanding Juarez' sentiment that anything given, regardless of sincerity or generosity, can be taken away, even if by a successor, in a monarchical system. To achieve that, Benito Juarez states in the film's highlight scene - "That is freedom, Porfirio!". ....As for the modern films to which FLS refers, I won't debate it further here. It causes me too much pain to return to a kindergarten-level discussion about a massive and sophisticated phenomenon. Some of you keep stating how intelligent and sophisticated you are. Then come back here when you're also capable of acknowledging that there are some very big things you know nothing about. There was a reason why Defense Secretary Cohen presented a special commendation to Steven Spielberg in 1999. The Defense Department? You betcha.

Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@Ansons Nephew

"How stupid do you have to be to believe anything coming out of Hollywood?”

Did you know you were talking to someone (pl....) who truly believes a great many movies have been made about his life? Don't believe me? Just ask him that directly. Its a complicated plot involving Hollywood Jews working with the govt. that are out to get him

LOL


Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2013
Article comment by: pl ......

@AN.....Good. I think you'll enjoy the film.

Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ PL
I am a film buff and I will watch the film – however I should point out that I have been chastised numerous times for referencing films here that demonstrate or point out one salient point or another by being told, “That’s just a movie! How stupid do you have to be to believe anything coming out of Hollywood?”

But, as I said I will watch the film and thank you for recommending it, however, I will not comment on it.


Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

@AN.....if you can, I recommend a couple hours spent watching an old movie from the 1930's, starring Paul Muni as Benito Juarez ("Juarez" is the film title). It's actually well-made for the times, and about halfway through the film is the scene I most recommend. Porfirio Diaz has been released from prison by Emperor Maximilian, to propose a coalition Government between himself and Juarez. As Diaz makes the pitch to Benito Juarez, the following brief conversation is simple but rich. At one point, Paul Muni rises from his chair beneath a portrait of Abraham Lincoln and asks, "What is freedom?" No spoilers here, Anson. Just watch it sometime. Then look around you honestly now in America. If you can't or won't view the film, I can do the spoiler here.

Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“… you have no freedoms. keep swearing allegience to that flag that takes em from you too.”

As a true American, a veteran and a “non-loon” I will always pledge allegiance to the flag – even with that stupid “under God” in it. And I have many, many freedoms and thankful for all of them and resent the freedoms that Republicans are attempting to take away from all Americans.


Posted: Monday, January 14, 2013
Article comment by: tj denton

yeah, lets start up a private, in-state, well regulated militia consisting of 20,000 members and see how fast the federal govt puts a stop to that. face it people, you have no freedoms. keep swearing allegience to that flag that takes em from you too.

Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2013
Article comment by: 2nd Amendment Demands Regulations

And Mr. Nice, what part of "A well regulated..." don't you understand.

Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2013
Article comment by: origional Kingman Resident

@learn the Constitution

How about you read the Constitution!

We are a country of laws, not men. We don't "follow the orders of the freely elected president of the republic".

We follow the laws that are written and passes by our elected representatives in Congress and signed by the president. The president is not a dictator, (although I'm not sure that our current president is aware of this).

As for your misunderstanding of the Second Amendment, read what Uncle Anson posted.


Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: nnp .....

18th century American colonial militias, as well as individuals and families, stored their gunpowder in village powder houses (remember this wasn't smokeless gunpowder). Times have changed. Now we have criminally-prone minorities, drug addicts, and a government which - unfortunately - is not 3,000 miles away in the day of Fusion Centers and many other organs of the military-police state. The Founding Fathers could not have foreseen these details, although clearly they set themselves against top-heavy overly-entitled Government. Rather than this invalidating the Constitution, it should encourage us to find its modern-day application, consistent with the sentiments behind that unprecedented document.

Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: Uncle Anson

@ Learn
Perhaps you should read that which you quote. The Militia is well regulated, not the citizen. There is a huge difference. As far as orders are concerned, they must be legal orders.


Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@V Stokes

Not sure who said anything was wrong or incorrect with your statement. It sure wasn't me.

As for FLS, he was not paraphrasing, he was twisting someone's words in a small attempt to belittle someone. That is where he was incorrect.


Posted: Friday, January 11, 2013
Article comment by: Learn the US Constitution

The moment you say, "I refuse to comply with the laws" is the moment you lose all rights under the 2nd Amendment.

The 2nd Amendment only applies to legally armed citizens who are "well regulated" and who will follow the orders of the freely elected President of the Republic.


Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: N A

Google and look up an article called "why the gun is civilization". This will explain why and armed society is a polite society.

Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@Nice Chuckle

Nope...sorry...IMO you lose. Someone said they would give up any right or freedom except to vote for a specific outcome.

That means I (or FLS) can list any right or freedom other than voting as something willing to be given up and the statement is valid.

He didn't quote her...he paraphrased (I believe that's the correct term?) the statement.

Still not getting why my proposed statements are any different.


Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@V Stokes

"Please explain the difference..."

Simple.

FLS claimed LGD said...."She stated she would willingly give up her right to free speech and her right to defend herself for the phony perception of "safety""

As much as I disagree with LGD's stance on guns, she did not say what FLS claims she did. It is yet another case of him putting words in a person's mouth.


Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@Nice Chuckle
Really? I thought you were better than this.

When someone says they would give up any right or freedom, with just one exception, then that validates FLS's extrapolated statement.

Could just as easily have been said as "her right to drive and own property" or "her right to a trial by jury or freedom of (or from) religion"

Please explain the difference...


Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@FLS

this is what you said...."She stated she would willingly give up her right to free speech and her right to defend herself for the phony perception of "safety"."

This is what LGD said...."I'd gladly give up my right to smoke in exchange for our kids to be a little safer. I'd gladly give up my right to write "endless" letters to the newspaper if high-capacity magazines were banned. I.would gladly give up any right or freedom I have, except my right to vote, in exchange for a less violent world.""

Two different statements entirely. Now, try again, or admit you were wrong.


Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@nice chuckle

Look below where she stated:

"I.would gladly give up any right or freedom I have, except my right to vote, in exchange for a less violent world."

Cannot get more specific than that.


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

A piece of a news story on FoxNews.com at

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/09/vice-president-to-meet-with-gun-safety-groups/

Vice President Biden suggested Wednesday that the White House could take unilateral action on gun control, as he kicked off a round of meetings aimed at finding ways to curb gun violence.

The vice president met Wednesday with gun-safety and victims groups, saying he is "determined" to take "urgent action" to address gun violence.

"This is not an exercise in photo opportunities or just getting to ask you all what your opinions are. We are vitally interested in what you have to say," Biden said.

The White House has sought to avoid prejudging what Biden's recommendations would be. But the vice president hinted Wednesday that executive action -- action by the president in which Congress would not have a say -- would indeed be involved.

"Executive action ... can be taken," Biden said, adding "we haven't decided what that is yet."

Here's a rhetorical question, can our President and his lap dog do anything constitutionally?


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

@Nice Chuckle

Mon Jan 7th by LGD
"I'd gladly give up my right to smoke in exchange for our kids to be a little safer. I'd gladly give up my right to write "endless" letters to the newspaper if high-capacity magazines were banned. I.would gladly give up any right or freedom I have, except my right to vote, in exchange for a less violent world."

I'd say that "I.would gladly give up any right or freedom I have" pretty much covers it.

“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” BF


Posted: Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@FLS

"She stated she would willingly give up her right to free speech and her right to defend herself for the phony perception of "safety"."

Really, where? And be specific. Or admit you are wrong.


Posted: Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@nice chuckle

"...and their putting words in other people's mouths?"

She stated she would willingly give up her right to free speech and her right to defend herself for the phony perception of "safety".

What would you call someone willing to sacrifice their rights for safety that they will never actually have?



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