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3/10/2013 5:59:00 AM
Letter: Deport the Christians

Obama and friends are at it again - Christian bashing.

In 2008, Uwe and Hannelore Romeike and their six children moved from Germany to a small farm in eastern Tennessee, seeking political asylum in order to home school their children, something not allowed at all in their native Germany. In 2010, an immigration judge granted it to them. Mr. Romeike, a classically trained pianist, says they all love their little farm and are, in fact, home schooling.

But the Obama Administration has now stepped in and is trying to have the Evangelical Christian family deported. The Department of Homeland Security said they don't deserve asylum - but thousands/millions of illegal aliens do? They are here, being set free/allowed to stay right now by Obama. And then there is Obama's uncle, here for dozens of years illegally ... and still here.

Obama's Justice Department is arguing Germany's law banning home schooling does not violate the family's human rights. Actually, if they are sent back they will most likely lose custody of their children. They already were fined thousands of dollars and the children were taken away in police vans.

Germany's constitution also allows for prison time for parents home schooling and permanently taking the children away. Shades of the old Germany.

Even private schools in Germany have to teach the prescribed public school curriculum.

Germany bans home schooling because they don't want significant numbers of people thinking differently than the government thinks. Sounds a little too familiar for comfort to me. As in, we will take care of your breakfast and lunch, maybe daycare after, your college loans - and in exchange, we get to teach you whatever the government deems you should be taught and your part, you sheeple, is to just keep your mouths shut and your hands out.

Germany is in the process of "socializing" German children via the school system. And, they teach against Christian values.

Again, just a little too familiar for comfort.

Linda Athens

Kingman


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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

FLS

Perhaps. Much like your military service claims. Or would that fall in the category of unsubstantiated BS instead?

What is it about my military service that bothers you so much? Well, other than your own hatred of our military as espoused when you said I served my time in reference to your military service.

In multiple posts you used the term Rambo in referring to me, which of course was utter nonsense. Rambo is a fictional character in both print and film. However, I would be honored to be an actual Rambo (but Im not) because that character was a war hero and the winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor. No, I was no Rambo, just a grunt who served his nation and did so with a pride that I maintain to this day.

You have attacked not only my military service, but my successful writing career, my successful telecom career, my successful broadcasting career, my political donations, and even my underwear. Why? As I have said, ad nauseum, you dont know me, you have never met me and yet you seem to be able to come here and post ridiculous nonsense about me while never actually providing anything of substance.


Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"The DOJ are hell bent on deporting this family as a sign to US homeschoolers that they are next. Obama's government plan is to control each person...especially the young. That includes homeschoolers. "

You need to step away from copying and pasting from Fox and Beck and actually look at why these people are being refused asylum. It is NOT because they homeschool, otherwise a great number of Americans would be in trouble. It is because this family is in NO danger if they return to their home land. No, none, zero, zip. Live with it.


Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

If you want to support the Romeike family, you can donate to HSLDA.org or mercuryone.org and earmark it for their defense.

So you are asking people to donate funds to a family that has been adjudicated as being in this country illegally and face deportation. Wow!

Observe, Dr. Ben and Mrs. Carson started a foundation for high academic achievers. To date, they have given out 5000 scholarships FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS.

As usual more hyperbole. The Carson Scholars Fund is a non-profit 501 (c)(3) with chapters all around the nation that solicit funds to provide scholarships in the amount of $1,000 for students in grades 4 -11 that maintain at least a 3.75 GPA. So, yes, it is a great program that has benefited many children, BUT the monies have not come from the pockets of Mr and Mrs Carson.


Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

Nice parrotting from Glenn Beck. At least it wasn't Fox News this time. As to the family, give it up, they lost. You lost. They were granted a temporary stay while their case was investigated and they, justly, lost.


Posted: Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"As usual no basis in fact just the usual hyperbolic nonsense."

hyperbole/haɪ ˈ pɜ rbə li/ Show Spelled [hahy-pur-buh-lee] Show IPA
noun Rhetoric .

1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.

Perhaps. Much like your military service claims. Or would that fall in the category of "unsubstantiated BS" instead?


Posted: Monday, March 18, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

The HSLDA (Home School Defense) is backing the German family.

It is amazing that we are guaranteed INDIVIDUAL freedoms in the United States but yet Holder's DOJ is fighting against the Romeike family with the exact opposite of individual freedom - group freedom. We are guaranteed, EACH of us, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

The DOJ are hell bent on deporting this family as a sign to US homeschoolers that they are next. Obama's government plan is to control each person...especially the young. That includes homeschoolers.

Our government is telling the Romeike's, they may not have that right in Germany, AND THEY WILL NOT BE GRANTED IT HERE, the opposite of the Founders words.

Glenn Beck, through his charitable foundation, Mercury One, just donated $50,000 to the HSLDA in their defense of the family.

If you want to support the Romeike family, you can donate to HSLDA.org or mercuryone.org and earmark it for their defense.

It should be noted, those on the right are for individual freedom and usually put up their own money for that purpose. Not so much the left. Any money over will be left with the HSLDA to fight other similar cases. 100% goes to the family's defense.

The Modus Operandi has usually been, when a Judge rules on cases like this, it stands with the DOJ so they, as usual, have trumped the norm and stepped way out of bounds. And the Judge DID rule it a religious freedom case which it is. German schools are now teaching all things anti Christian.

Observe, Dr. Ben and Mrs. Carson started a foundation for high academic achievers. To date, they have given out 5000 scholarships FROM THEIR OWN POCKETS.


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

I'll guess you didn't read either the Judge's ruling or the DOJ's

And as always you are incorrect. Its always fun to watch the righties make assertions about me when they do not know me nor have they ever met me.

I suggest the following where you can hear Dr. Ben Carson and Eric Metaxes speak truth at CPAC. Put any CPAC speaker in a search engine and you will probably pull their entire 10 minute speech up including Rand Paul's which was excellent.

Referring anyone to the garbage filled nonsense spewed forth at CPAC is just well pathetic. The entire group of losers pontificating on their hatred for our nation and our country is just sad.

And to the real racists on here who accuse me of being racist, if Dr. Carson (BLACK) runs for POTUS, I will work night and day to get him elected.

One has to laugh that mentioning the fact that Dr Carson is black actually reinforces the fact that the poster is indeed a racist.

BTW when can I expect to see any German textbooks that supports this claim you made, they were being taught witchcraft and that the devil will give you good answers but God will not,


Posted: Sunday, March 17, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"And to the real racists on here who accuse me of being racist, if Dr. Carson (BLACK) runs for POTUS, I will work night and day to get him elected."

To paraphrase Shakespeare....Methinks you doth protest too much. LOL


Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

A correction on the URL I posted. One too many 1's.

nationalreview.com/corner/343156/carson-obama-trying-destroy-country-eliana-johnson

Or you can go to nationalreview.com or nationalreviewonline.com also.

Put any CPAC speaker in a search engine and you will probably pull their entire 10 minute speech up including Rand Paul's which was excellent.


Posted: Saturday, March 16, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

obamabob:

I'll guess you didn't read either the Judge's ruling or the DOJ's since that is always your modus operandi. apparent by your postings.

Perhaps listening to something is "easier" for you. I suggest the following where you can hear Dr. Ben Carson and Eric Metaxes speak truth at CPAC. Then you might want to read Bonhoeffer by Metaxes or Carson's NYT #! bestseller America the Beautiful. Please libs, get yourselves educated.

nationalreview.com/corner/343156/1carson-obama-trying-destroy-country-eliana-johnson

A sampling:


>>>>Dr. Benjamin Carson, the director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital who garnered national headlines for his pointed remarks at last months National Prayer Breakfast, says that President Obama and his political allies are trying to destroy the country.

Lets say somebody were [in the White House] and they wanted to destroy this nation, Carson postulated in remarks at the Conservative Political Action Conference. I would create division among the people, encourage a culture of ridicule for basic morality and the principles that made and sustained the country, undermine the financial stability of the nation, and weaken and destroy the military. It appears coincidentally that those are the very things that are happening right now.<<<<

And to the real racists on here who accuse me of being racist, if Dr. Carson (BLACK) runs for POTUS, I will work night and day to get him elected.


Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

I get all of the DOJ's ruling and it is all wrong.

So you are now telling us that a DOJ ruling based on decades of rules and previous rulings regarding political asylum is wrong because .. you say so? OMG - LOL

And homeschoolers in the U. S. had better beware because they are coming after you also - has already started in many states.

Yes, I will now ask that you provide a list of states and cases where home school parents are being pursued and harassed by the DOJ. Any state just one go ahead name it.

The German family fits into two, religion (even stated by the Judge granting them asylum) and social group, where Germany has lumped all home schoolers into a social group they do not want to grow.

Once again the judge did not grant them asylum. He allowed them to remain here while the DOJ investigated their claim. As to religion, that claim is totally bogus, they are self-admitted Christians and there are millions of Christians in Germany so thats out. As to social group home schooling your children does not place anyone in a social group so toss that one out as well.

they were being taught witchcraft and that the devil will give you good answers but God will not,

Yes, I am going to ask you for proof of that. Any German textbook espousing such crap will be accepted (and yes I speak and read German).


Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

obamabob:

I get all of the DOJ's ruling and it is all wrong. And homeschoolers in the U. S. had better beware because they are coming after you also - has already started in many states.

First, to be granted political asylum, you have to fit into only one of the following. The German family fits into two, religion (even stated by the Judge granting them asylum) and social group, where Germany has lumped all home schoolers into a social group they do not want to grow.

race
religion
nationality
political opinion
social group.

I must correct your friend Chuckles who said, to be granted asylum, you have to face death if you go back. You do not in fact.

The Romeike's are Christians and one reason they took their three children out of public school was they were being taught witchcraft and that the devil will give you good answers but God will not, parental guidance means little, sex ed that was Christianity wise, wrong and much more. That violates their religion.

Their end result, poverty, property taken away, children taken away, them put in jail. That is pretty severe in my book.


Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

Below address for the Judge's ruling.

What part of the determination by the DOJ (following rules that have been in place for decades) that they had no right to political asylum dont you get?

You can post all of the trash you want and it still has nothing to do with the fact that they were denied under the laws of the United States political asylum simply because they wanted to home school their kids.


Posted: Friday, March 15, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

All whites are lumped together by libs and always have been.

It is the LIBS who are racist, always going by skin color which means absolutely nothing.

But you can always tell a lib on here immediately because they ALWAYS play the race card.

Sad you lefties always have to play the race card.

And then there is this

It is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House, Kris Crawford, Republican State Representative, South Carolina.


Posted: Thursday, March 14, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

NA:

Below address for the Judge's ruling.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/02/doj-seeks-deportation-of-family-persecuted-in-germany-for-homeschooling/

A part of it -

The Romeikes fled to the US in 2008 after facing mounting fines, possible imprisonment. Judge Burman's ruling for them included expert witness testimony and what they face if sent back.

Oct 20, 2006, two armed officers came w/no warrant, no authorization and took children to school. Horribly upset all.

Oct 23, 2006, police appear in force -neighbors block them.

Dec 2006, govt fines them $672 initially -threat of escalation. Mayor adds custody loss possible under Youth Office (Judendamt).

In court, respondents found guilty of not sending kids to school, fines escalated to above their means, property would be confiscated, custody of children lost, they could go to jail under criminal statutes.

Judge Burman examined German anti-homeschooling laws w/expert testimony, background evidence testimony of others.

If fines not paid, Germany puts children in foster homes and orphanages. The Garbers child was placed in foster care six months -no visitation.

Melissa Vusekros case - treated as having psychiatric affliction, put in mental asylum for testing.

This isn't about child concern but fear of a parallel society against the German govt. The 1938 law was enacted to allow govt control of German children.

Again, becoming way to familiar in America.

The Judge ruled in their favor, finding them in a group the German govt chooses to treat as a rebel organization - you know, kind of how liberals treat the Tea Party Movement. And he found it violating their religion...the same reason many escaped Germany to come here.

Enter evil Eric Holder and the DOJ. See DOJ's nonsensical ruling in article. We should fight for these people against this evil DOJ and specifically Eric Holder.




Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Article comment by: Doing Research

@NA

Did you even read the DOJ report? Are you a lawyer? If not then you probably have no clue what a corrupt report would look like, huh? Can you show me 2 not corrupt and 2 corrupt reports like this?

If you can't trust ANY INFORMATION collected from the people, then why even talk about this?

The DOJ report has their testimony and depositions in it - unless these people have stated in all these interviews that the DOJ report misquotes them or twisted their words, then it's pretty safe to say that typing up the words they say is not "corrupt."


Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

I meant to say political asylum but you are wrong and I already posted it once.

Well, meant to and what you posted were obviously two different things. Right?

They WERE granted asylum and I even gave the Judge's name.

Well, what is more than obvious is that you had best stay away from attempting to assist anyone trying to obtain political asylum. What transpires is a judge grants an order allowing people to remain here while their petition for political asylum is investigated by the Justice Department. It was determined, by the laws (that YOU always uphold) of the United States that they were ineligible for political asylum. So its bye-bye!


Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

obama Bob:

I meant to say political asylum but you are wrong and I already posted it once.

They WERE granted asylum and I even gave the Judge's name.


Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

Sad you lefties always have to play the race card.

Once again, provide any evidence of that and BTW read your own posts

They are not here illegally. They came and asked for immunity and got it. Duh!

DUH! No, they did not ask for immunity they asked for political asylum and were allowed to remain while their case was investigated. They lost.

So you are all right with people coming here illegally?

No

Funny, we used to follow the law in America, no matter what your color was. What other laws do you believe it is fine to break?

Well have to check with Shuruff Sheehan on that one.

How about running for POTUS when you cannot even prove you are an American citizen?

For four years you have posted this nonsense each week we see it and for four years it has always been wrong and will always be wrong.

Must be nice to pick and choose what laws you will follow. Me, I'm a Christian so I have to follow them all. Just like the Founders who made them.

So bearing false witness is following Gods laws? Wow!


Posted: Wednesday, March 13, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

@ KW

Normally I no longer post my sources because the usual suspects always show up screaming that the sites are bogus, lying, liberal crap. However, I will post a list along with the advice that you can Google, Fox Allowed To Lie. The following sites are just a few that posted the information I reported ceasespin.org projectcensored.org relfe.com snopes.com soadhead.com dailykos.com.

And now we will wait for the usual suspects.


Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

First, I notice you always defer to what the Web admin said about you posting under two names.. BUT YOU NEVER DENY YOU ARE ONE AND THE SAME YOURSELF.

Pathetic! How about if I say NICE CHUCKLE AND I ARE TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE!

Two separate e-mails or two separate computers - so simple.

WOW paranoia thy name is Linda!

And your Fox News hangup is so deranged. When you and your twin said I got a story this week from Fox and WND, it was actually from a Christian news source I often use.

YOU have admitted by using the names of FAUX hosts in quoting stories - that you do watch FAUX. Stop denying it!

A Rush caller, left winger, tuned into Fox and discovered,

Ho many times do you to be told that the Gasbag uses set-up callers? Stop listening to a whacked out drug addict its not good for you!

A real shame you cannot go to substantive sources for information actually as I do.

You mean like Corsi, Barton, WND, FAUX and other right wing sites?

Been digging gardens for hours while blaring Rush and Beck to the neighbors

Id report you to the police if you were my neighbor.

don't bother bringing up Fox News. Like most days, it won't be on in my house.

When you stop quoting from them, I will stop. Until then!


Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Article comment by: Kingman Dweller

@Anson- Could you please tell me where you got that information? I would like to look up the article that you are basing your facts from. Not a slam against you, I really would like to read more about this. Thanks.

Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Shane Douglas:

Sad you lefties always have to play the race card.

And try to read what I wrote. They are not here illegally. They came and asked for immunity and got it. Duh! Enter obama's DOJ .

So you are all right with people coming here illegally? Funny, we used to follow the law in America, no matter what your color was. What other laws do you believe it is fine to break?

How about running for POTUS when you cannot even prove you are an American citizen? Or making recess appointments when the Senate is still in session so you simply override them and declare it closed, then make two very, very controversial labor union appointments.

Must be nice to pick and choose what laws you will follow. Me, I'm a Christian so I have to follow them all. Just like the Founders who made them.


Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Article comment by: Nice Chuckle

@Linda

"First, I notice you always defer to what the Web admin said about you posting under two names.. BUT YOU NEVER DENY YOU ARE ONE AND THE SAME YOURSELF."

Well, since I didn't defer to the web admin....I think you may be a bit confused. Sorry, try again.

"And your Fox News hangup is so deranged. When you and your twin said I got a story this week from Fox and WND, it was actually from a Christian news source I often use.

A Rush caller, left winger, tuned into Fox and discovered, she reported yesterday, they are not so right wing as they report ALL the news, making it look like they are right wing. MSNBC, etc only report leftie stories. ."

You can deny this all you choose, but your stories are often word for word parrots, usually in a copy and paste from their website, of a story that appears on Fox. Sorry...you lose again. As someone else said here...you are losing credibility by the second, but hey, keep the laughs coming.


Posted: Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Chuckles:

First, I notice you always defer to what the Web admin said about you posting under two names.. BUT YOU NEVER DENY YOU ARE ONE AND THE SAME YOURSELF.

Your name pick, "Nice Chuckle", as if you have fooled us all is pretty self explanatory. Caught you too many times posting under the wrong name for the subject. .

Two separate e-mails or two separate computers - so simple.

And your Fox News hangup is so deranged. When you and your twin said I got a story this week from Fox and WND, it was actually from a Christian news source I often use.

A Rush caller, left winger, tuned into Fox and discovered, she reported yesterday, they are not so right wing as they report ALL the news, making it look like they are right wing. MSNBC, etc only report leftie stories. .

A real shame you cannot go to substantive sources for information actually as I do.

Todays itinerary. Been digging gardens for hours while blaring Rush and Beck to the neighbors, stopping to read Ward Connerly's Creating Equal, My Fight Against Race Preference, a Montana ranch story and Jud Wilhite's Pursued, Gods Obsession With You.

I will continue this until American Idol comes on so tomorrow, don't bother bringing up Fox News. Like most days, it won't be on in my house.



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