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3/27/2013 6:00:00 AM
Education changes cause control concerns

Suzanne Adams-Ockrassa
Miner Staff Reporter


KINGMAN - A bill in the Arizona Legislature has reopened the debate over how to best prepare students for their futures in the job market.

Rep. Doris Goodale, R-Kingman, introduced House Bill 2047 in January. The bill replaces language in current state statutes referring to the Arizona Instrument to Measure Standards (AIMS) test with language detailing the new Arizona Common Core Standards.

Because of the bill, a number of representatives in both houses of the Legislature have resurrected concerns about the Arizona Common Core standards, which replaced the AIMS test in 2010, Goodale said.

Sen. Kelli Ward, R-Lake Havasu City, is one of the legislators with reservations about Arizona Common Core.

"I have gotten overwhelming input from our district that the people do not support Common Core," she said in a text message to the Miner. "I got one message from (Lake Havasu Unified School District) Superintendent Gail Malay that she supports Common Core."

It's a little late to be reconsidering Arizona Common Core now, Goodale said. The state's already implemented it and teachers have been working with the new standards for the last two years. Testing on the new education standards is supposed to start in the 2014-15 school year.

"The other group doesn't have a plan," Goodale said. "People think it's so easy to come up with new assessment tests, but it can take three to four years to develop new assessments. And we can't use AIMS. AIMS is just a disaster."

The AIMS tests didn't prepare students for the workplace or college, she said.

"We had multiple complaints [from businesses and colleges] about kids who don't know how to problem-solve by themselves," Goodale said. "I had more than 240 people sign in - business owners, educators, teachers, chambers of commerce - in support of [Common Core] at an informational hearing we had. We had 30 people sign in against it. We've spent many hours with Arizona teachers and educators to come up with these standards.

"This is truly an Arizona model."

Ward said she's worried about Arizona losing control of its education standards.

"I think we may have quite a bit of work to do on the Common Core issue so that we are truly keeping education local and not allowing a consortium of national and international 'experts' determine how we educate our kids," Ward said.

The Common Core standards were created by a consortium of teachers, business leaders and education experts from 46 states, including Arizona.

The Kingman Academy of Learning has integrated the new standards, said KAOL Administrator Susan Chan.

They are more rigorous than the old AIMS standards, she said. The reading levels, for example, require students to not only read at grade level but also understand what they read and apply it to real life.

Students must also show that same level of reading comprehension across all of their subjects, including social studies, math and science.

The Arizona Common Core standards are designed to move students away from memorization and instead provide skills needed to get a job or move on to college, Goodale said.

According to the Arizona Department of Education and the national Common Core website, the standards were not created by the federal government and were not voted on by Congress.

The Arizona Common Core standards are based on the national Common Core standards and were adopted by the state Board of Education in 2010.

Having a shared set of standards can only benefit students and teachers, Goodale said.

"We have a very mobile population with people in the military and moving for jobs. Why should students be penalized if they move to another state?"



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Reader Comments

Posted: Friday, April 12, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

I don't believe college is a necessary thing for all high school graduates and never have-I think my Dad was correct in that in his time, believing a female only needed to go to college to be a teacher or nurse believing once married it's your job (And It Is A Job) to care for that child. I happen to tradionally agree with him and the tradional structure of family. As things have taken an unseemly turn of events however I have found myself more and more encouraging my granddaughters to be well prior to marriage and children. But, I have great reservations about college and the liberal based agends by people such as Hussein (as He wishes he could go by-LOL), Kathy Boudin and the liberal professor at USC Darry Sragow!!!
These peoples' teaching of our youth definitely needs a redefining of education as their agenda has indeed trickled downward into even the grammar schools! WAKE UP PEOPLE in AMERICA or we will never be able to go back to a sane nation again!!


Posted: Friday, April 12, 2013
Article comment by: Amaryllis Smith

Wow! I have not really been up on the Schools agendas and the implamentation of Common Core replacing the AIMS as I don't have children attending school. I do still have grandchildren and have been extremely concerned for a long time as what the schools are indoctrinating into them and being the extreme left liberal B.S., knowing it is not a good thing!!
Unfortunately for todays children too many parents prefer the Nanny State agenda and are only too consumed by their own self-gradification they think they are entitled to in life! Whether that be drugs, alcohol, sex life or even a parent being a workaholic-I myself have one of those children, it is the moneyholic materialism thing in her case.
I wish I could shake her and wake her up just as these other parents need to do so.


Posted: Monday, April 1, 2013
Article comment by: Not Pleased With This Bill

Doris is not a friend of public education. I was surprised to learn this from conversations with her. I am suspicious of her bill and would like to know the position of AEA, F of T, and classroom teachers.

Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013
Article comment by: Luca Zanna

I have lived while I was in Italy the same centralized "standardized" educational programs, similar to CORE.
If I sound a little straight forward and with no apologies when comes to this type of programs, it's because I have lived them in first person. The goal is not to educate, but to control and program the perfect slaves... the curriculum is under the control of unelected buroc-rats, with the goal to create a global government where the individuality and individual rights are suppressed for the common good. Once there was Italy, and it is gone under the European Community... kids of 30 years ago like me, we were brainwashed about this BS. I have found Arizona, the last place where there is still hope to for free individuals... I am not going to be diplomatic when comes to things like these. I don't care about republicraps or democ-rats... I bash them all when they want to build up more control on us.


Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013
Article comment by: Luca Zanna

The issue is not about supporting Sen. Ward, but about understanding that more centralized control on every matter of our lives will bring less freedom to us and to our next generation. I don't support any person but the truth and liberty. People should read and learn about CORE to understand how our next generation will be under the indoctrination of few burocrats that are not even from Arizona. Regarding sen. Ward, she has been elected by a majority of constituents that support freedom and less control from the federal burocrats... she is just doing what she promised during the elections. Nothing more nothing less. And yes, if you read and learn about CORE, it is about collectivism... so, my offer to pay for the gas money for the commies, it still valid :)

Posted: Friday, March 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Ms Athens

“Our Secy of Ed who pushed homosexual high schools in Chicago but much worse on the rest of the country....”

Once again I will ask that you provide some evidence to support a nonsensical post. Thank you. This sure gets tiresome.

“Russian style it appears to me and in total opposition to our once free country.”

Yes, we know. Heavy sigh.

“Yes, Beck and Malkin have both delved into this monstrosity,”

Again, referencing right wing does nothing to support your argument.

“In Feb, the Dept of Ed reported one day they could implement MRI's to scan students' brains and cameras on them to judge their facial expressions, electronic seats to monitor their posture and biometric wraps on their wrists.”

Please provide a link to this nonexistent story. Thank you.


Posted: Friday, March 29, 2013
Article comment by: joker wilde

I would hope Luca is not stating that everyone who disagrees with Ward - or him - is a communist. As Americans we all have the right to disagree or agree with a politician or anyone else for that matter. I disagree with Ms. Ward's politics but I am not a communist. I vote as an Independent and cast my ballot for the person, not the party. But that's just me.

Posted: Friday, March 29, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

My posts never made it but after hours of studying Common Core, it is obviously a nightmare of the first order. Anytime Arne Duncan is pushing and backing something, a very big red flag goes up. Our Secy of Ed who pushed homosexual high schools in Chicago but much worse on the rest of the country....

Samuel Adams is right in how we got CC but it is so detailed, so scary, most Americans will not even believe it.

I see those opposing it, people I have trusted for years such as Sandra Strosky. Even Bill Gates and all his billions have bought into it.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Samuel Adams is right! For those who would like to leave Goodale and Ward a message as I did:

Goodale - 602-926-5408
Ward - 602-926-4138

The other Samuel Adams, from whom I am proudly descended, would NEVER go along with this.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Linda Athens

Studying this program is very disturbing, the biggest disturb being how the government will be using the children according to their value to them, then in exchange for special treats, will tell them where they want them in life.

Russian style it appears to me and in total opposition to our once free country.
"
Yes, Beck and Malkin have both delved into this monstrosity, Beck having a guest panel including Kris Nielsen, author of "Children of the Core"and Jane Robbins of The American Principle Project and Obama and GE buddy both support it. That alone is a red flag to me.

Data mining and gathering personal info from students thru Common Core's tracking system for government use, then the data to be sold for profit is also disturbing. The Principle Project says Core is part of a much broader program for the govt to track our children from birth thru the work force.

Malkin reports the 2009 stimulus included a "State Fiscal Stabilization Fund" to provide states incentives to construct "longitudinal data systems (LDS) to collect data including children's health, family income, religious affiliations and homework.

In Feb, the Dept of Ed reported one day they could implement MRI's to scan students' brains and cameras on them to judge their facial expressions, electronic seats to monitor their posture and biometric wraps on their wrists.

Under FERPA all things had to have parental permission but Jan, 2012, a new reg now says any info from 2009 forward can be shared w/fed agencies without parental permission.

Years back we had NO intrusion in students' lives and yet, we were mostly all smart, well read, could read and write and did fine. We don't need MRI's on our children's brains in school nor the feds obtaining personal info.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Tanya Smith

[Comment deleted for excessive length.]

Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Donna Wickerd

Doris Goodale is absolutely and completely right about this....and it is not a liberal/conservative issue, it is an education/ignorance issue.

The same people that Kelli Ward is listening to that are against common core also think that it is part of Agenda 21 and think that it is a federal conspiracy to teach our children socialism instead of history and take God out of the science lab and replace Him with Evolution LOL

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE PEOPLE IN OUR SOCIETY WHO WERE FAILED BY OUR SCHOOLS IN THE PAST!

WE MUST TEACH OUR CHILDREN REAL MATH AND SCIENCE AND TEST THEM THE SAME WAY EVERY OTHER AMERICAN IS TESTED!


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

I think the funniest comment was the one who claimed to be fan of Glenn Beck! I mean when fox and friends finds you to toxic, to insane your really bad off in the wisdom category! Right wing radio found a market for about 20 million estimated fans who live for hate radio, it satisfies their sadism, angry feelings towards all those folks they deem themselves better than! Thank god out of a nation with 330 million that number is not reflective of anywhere near any majority! Angry, hateful folks just tend to make more noise and are full of hot air!

Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

“Sen. Ward you are doing a great job. Stay the course....”

Number one contender for the funniest post of the week.

“… and for all the commies I remind that the State of California is just across the river... I would gladly help with gas money if some commie wants to relocate there”

And with that Luca I have lost all respect for you. I have supported you in the past with your various efforts but now that you have decided those of us who understand the facts about Ms Ward and her obvious ignorance are “commies” I am done with you. Very sad.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: no Name

To El Jay,
Perhaps you fail to realize that even as a home schooled you must still achieve the same standards that brick and mortar schools do. You will be required to take the same standardized test as those students. If its not AIMS it will be the PARCC. Its time to wake up and realize that its real easy to say the words "home school" and yet it's another story to compete on the standardized test when your not teaching or using standards that are being addressed. That's what is a stake here. The education system jumps to get more money and agrees to change without delving into what is really going to be needed. The Governors' budget wants some 39 million I believe to make sure teachers know what all is involved in common core yet we are already using it. The horses are out of the barn and your now worried about providing the training.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Origional Kingman Resident

@Jim Costelo

The new common core standards were introduced 2 years ago, but only kindergarten and first grades are using the common core. The change over will occur for all grade levels in the next year.

Not sure if I support common core, (but I do disagree with federal control of education), but the current test scores are still attached to the old Arizona standards.


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Same Old Thing

@ Jim Consolato

No attack on your comment or opinion, but your ability to draw conclusions.

Could it be I'm not a friend of Doris Goodale (never met her, could walk by me and wouldn't know it) but still choose to exercise my ability to not to use my name?


Posted: Thursday, March 28, 2013
Article comment by: Shirley Graff

I am very concerned about Common Core which would more aptly be called a 'Trojan Horse'. It is an ill-conceived problematic and dangerous program.. Individuality is diminished along with the potential loss of local control of the curriculum and instruction putting academic quality at risk.
Who is behind the initiative, and are the standards better than previous ones? Do they engage parents in a clear and understandable way? Not from the research I've done. Get ride of it.


Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Jim Consolato

Do not use this little online forum as a barometer to gauge the avalanche of protest over Common Core. Remember we have a strong delegation in Mohave County called " The Friends of Doris Goodale" who will support all her poor decisions and motives based on friendship rather than on facts and good common sense or what the parents and the people really want. Its the same folks, "The Good Old Boys and Girls", "the Statue Quo", "The Old guard" who have brought down every aspect of this County for many years.

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Luca Zanna

Sen. Ward is upholding the values that the people voted for her expected from her. Sen. Ward you are doing a great job. Stay the course.... and for all the commies I remind that the State of California is just across the river... I would gladly help with gas money if some commie wants to relocate there

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Jim Consolato

At same Old Thing:

No personal attack on your comment or your opinion but you are obviously a personal friend of the "Same Old Doris Goodale" or you would have the gumption to use your real name. In addition it is a gross misrepresentation to try and tarnish Senator Kelly Ward's decisions and talking points on this issue with Glen Beck. That type of tactic is a standard Doris Goodale maneuver and believe me people are taking notice of Goodale's questionable voting record and the bills she has introduced during this years session of in the Arizona House of Representative. On the issue of Common Core it comes hand in had with a group called PARCC. This consortium Partnership for Assessment or Readiness for College and Careers. Anytime you hear the word consortium you better see a red flag and take caution. Senator Ward is correct, Common Core just leads Arizona down a path to more Government , especially Federal Government intervention and less autonomy for Arizona. Goodale is correct the state implemented Common Core two years ago but what she didn't say is,it hasn't done a bit of good and Arizona's education score still ranks very low What is a disaster is not necessarily Aims but the fact that Goodale is a puppet for Business not the People, by her own admission, she listens to the chamber of commerce and business owners and consortiums, not the people.... Did we elect Goodale to represent business or us the parent and the people? Listen to Senator Kelli Ward, she has the people at heart. I ask why should students be penalized by a State Representative who is bought and paid for by big business.


Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: El Jay

HOMESCHOOL

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Tanya Smith

@Same old Thing... I am a fan of Glen Beck and I am still in support of the new common core standards.

Senator Ward is also not getting information from people like her but instead the radical few that want to view everything as a conspiracy.

I am with you though that having 3 people screaming loudly about not liking Common Core and 2 people for it does not indicate an overwhelming majority!

What Mrs. Ward should have been paying more attention to was the 240 people showing up in support of Common Core and only 30 people showing up against...

That would tend to be a more powerful message than one person sending a nasty e-mail


Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: Frances Perkins

If Ms. Ward only listens to the people who think Common Core is linked to some Agenda 21 conspiracies, then she must listen to someone else. How about asking local board members or superintendents, or those who have to produce a workforce who can compete internationally. Do not listen to those who think sustainable development principles are the UN taking your SUVs and one acre lots away. What a bunch of nonsense.

Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013
Article comment by: NO NWO

Ms. Goodale seems to be highly misinformed and infavor of this "Common Core" program.
DO NOT BE FOOLED.
Those that have conspired to put this program in public schools have BYPASSED all ligitimate channels of approval,, including BYPASSING Congress and all PARENTS and Citizens...
It has nothing "COMMON CORE" between any of the 50 States....It is a United Nations Agenda 21 infiltration and implemantation of "COMMON CORE ANTI-AMERICAN VALUES", for a total take-over and TOTAL CONTROL of the schools, and has everything to do with the TOTAL CONTROL of EDUCATION and the Communist Indoctrination of American Youth...PARENTS AND CITIZENS BETTER WAKE UP AND STOP IT!



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