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4/18/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Explosives are the real danger

Top news story of the week - explosion at the Boston Marathon kills three people and injures dozens.

Well, that's the way they do things in the Middle East, but not here in America.

Those of you who think guns kill people, think again. Explosive devices do far more damage than assault weapons. Don't let anyone take your guns away from you. There are too many crazy people out there.

Gene Krivenko

Kingman




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Reader Comments

Posted: Sunday, May 5, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

More sad news for you leftist gun grabbers. The NRA announced it now has 5 million paid members. I million of those signed up in the past 4 months. That is likely 5 million or so more than the number of people you claim contacted their Reps demanding more gun control.

By the way, you still refuse to provide any proof that "millions" contacted their Washington reps as you claimed happened. Sigh.....I gues it was just more of your usual BS. Seems to be becoming a regular habit for you.

So how many millions of members does the leftist gun grabber group, the Brady Bunch, have?

Leftist gun-grabbers always make me.....

LOL



Posted: Sunday, May 5, 2013
Article comment by: anonymous anonymous

Anyone else but me notice Linda and a small faction in Kingman have carte blanch posting, submission of letters? I think they ought to just give them editorial control, their own columns and fire the paid staff since the paper has no editors it appears since a small bunch rule this papers commentary!

Posted: Sunday, May 5, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

NONW

“No I never said that the Constitution stated explicitly that I had a right to defend against tyrants.”

And you said, “Ergo, the Bill of Rights was put in the Constitution to protect the people from the acts of tyrants, be they foreign or domestic tyrants.”

“I've said all along that it was the intention of the founders,… “

So much like Ms Athens you have channeled the Founding Fathers to determine their “intent.” As FLS would say – “LOL.”

“The founders foresaw this and they knew the best way to save the freedom of the people was for the people to have the ability to defend those freedoms for themselves. Hence the 2nd Amendment.”

Whew – talk about a mass of convoluted logic! You do know that the Second Amendment specifically mentions protecting the state (i.e. the government) and not the individual, right?


Posted: Saturday, May 4, 2013
Article comment by: Lost In America on the right wing

@ No One No Where

You said:
"I've said all along that it was the intention of the founders"

Every founder? Each and every ONE?


Posted: Saturday, May 4, 2013
Article comment by: The Root

@Anson..

If you DID serve, like you claim, you would know from your CNB training that those agents are VERY hard to destroy. I'm sure those inspectors had a plasma arc furnace capable of reaching the 3200 degrees needed to destroy Nerve agents. Again, close personal friends were there when the mobile labs were discovered. Those same people administered Atropine to 2 US army Rangers, due to exposure to a nerve agent of unknown type, but showing the effects of VX. I a more likely to listen to a close personal friend than some random innerweb poster googling furiously to find his answers.

I prefer to listen to people that actually were THERE.


And not people playing keyboard cowboy.....


Posted: Saturday, May 4, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

@AN

No I never said that the Constitution stated explicitly that I had a right to defend against tyrants. I've said all along that it was the intention of the founders, based on their writings in numerous tomes, that the people have the ability to defend themselves from tyrants and those who would oppress them and that in order to guarantee the people the ability to do so they included the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights. A person without the ability to defend oneself from those who would make them do their bidding, through coercion or force of violence, is no longer a person, they are but an unwilling servant or slave to those they cannot defend against.

That is the very definition of freedom, to be able to exercise your free will to do as you please (as long as no harm is given towards others in the exercise of it). But when you have a tyrant, or dictator, or autocrat, or King, or Tsar or Congress or President who willfully tramples on the Natural Rights of the people to exercise their free will and be coerces the people into acts they are against then you have the destruction of freedom and the people become nothing more than slaves to the political masters who would have them do their bidding.

The founders foresaw this and they knew the best way to save the freedom of the people was for the people to have the ability to defend those freedoms for themselves. Hence the 2nd Amendment.


Posted: Friday, May 3, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

NONW

“OK, then how about these two.”

And I find your attributions to be correct – however at issue was your contention that the words you spewed were in the Constitution. They are not. And yes, those ruling do provide you with the right to protect your self, but nonetheless that right is not provided in the wording of the Constitution – which was what I stated originally.

Good research job by the way – and I will accept that research (of course I was already aware of both cases). Of course the majority of the righties will not because they constantly tell us that “Wikipedia is full of lies.” Silly little people, aren’t they? t

And when it all shakes out neither the Constitution or court decisions say anything about providing for your self-protection against tyrants.



Posted: Friday, May 3, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

@AN

No , actually you didn't answer my question. In many numerous previous posts of yours you always say something on the order of "Show me where in the Constitution it says that, be specific". But now that you can't do the same you want to start talking about Supreme Court rulings. OK, then how about these two.

From Wikipedia,

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home and within federal enclaves.

And

McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), is a landmark[1] decision of the Supreme Court of the United States that determined whether the Second Amendment applies to the individual states. The Court held that the right of an individual to "keep and bear arms" protected by the Second Amendment is incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment and applies to the states. The decision cleared up the uncertainty left in the wake of District of Columbia v. Heller as to the scope of gun rights in regard to the states.

Those two rulings mean that I do have an INDIVIDUAL right to keep and bear arms for self-defense. Be that from a burglar or a tyrant.


Posted: Thursday, May 2, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

NONW

“So once again you can't answer a simple question, that being ‘Where, exactly, does it say in the Constitution that women have the right to an abortion? Be specific this time.’”

There are many points in our nations laws based on the courts interpretation of the Constitution so I did answer your “simple” question.

“What you do is talk about how the Due Process clause extends the right of privacy.”

And that decision was based on cases filed regarding, specifically, abortion rights.

“That's fine but it still states no where in the Constitution that you have a right to an abortion.”

You are correct – those words do not appear in the Constitution.

“So how is that any different from the 2nd Amendment giving me the right to defend myself from tyrants even though it does not say so explicitly? Please be specific this time. Thank you.”

No where is there any indication from the courts, or in the Constitution itself, that defending yourself from “tyrants” has been addressed.


Posted: Wednesday, May 1, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

@AN

So once again you can't answer a simple question, that being "Where, exactly, does it say in the Constitution that women have the right to an abortion? Be specific this time." What you do is talk about how the Due Process clause extends the right of privacy. That's fine but it still states no where in the Constitution that you have a right to an abortion. So how is that any different from the 2nd Amendment giving me the right to defend myself from tyrants even though it does not say so explicitly? Please be specific this time. Thank you.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"or the pathetic number of fools who showed for Glenn Beck’s “rally?” "

Since I am not a Glen Beck fan at all, I had to look it up. If you are talking about his Restoring Honor rally in DC in 2010, Here are some of the crowd estimates for that event:

Beck rally:

Sky News: 500,000
NBC News: 300,000
D.C. Official: 300,000-325,000
Glenn Beck: 300,000-500,000
ABC News: 100,000+
CBS News: 87,000

My source for this is the website Free Republic. Naw, I am just messing with you. Here is my 2010 source for those numbers:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/30/glenn-beck-rally-attendance_n_699713.html


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@No One No Where

"Yes, and let's not also forget about the Weather Underground, the Black Panther Party, Revolutionary Youth Movement, Students for a Democratic Society........ These would all be extreme far-left, liberal, socialist groups that have committed acts of violence as well for their political ideals."

How DARE you badmouth up groups that contained such leftist hero's such as Bill Ayers, Kathy Boudin, and Angela Davis as if those groups were somehow evil. I am VERY offended, sir or ma'am, VERY offended! KDM should not permit such vile comments to be be posted here.

(Extreme Sarcasm.....Off)

LOL


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Rootie

“I’m pretty sure Sarin and VX do not ‘go bad’ with Age.”

And I’m pretty sure you don’t know what you are talking about. Were these drums dangerous – as you imply – they would have been immediately destroyed. However the ISG did not see to their destruction, they simply reported on finding the barrels of “residual material” left over from the tons Ronald the Dim gave Sadam.

“… Iraq had WMD..”

Nope, as proven by the finding of The Criminals own group.

“… and Syria now has most of them. These are facts.”

Nope, no facts. Simply because you post this nonsense will never make it a “fact.”


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

Here is some AZ news that will cause a wailing and gnashing of teeth among the handful of gun-grabbers who post here.

Gov. Brewer signed into law a bill that states any guns that police obtain in a buyback program cannot be destroyed, they must be sold to the public. Of course, anyone buying such a firearm would have a background check. While it is a good law, there will likely not be people lining up to buy the broken and cheap firearms such buyback programs usually collect.

Still, I am sure gun-grabbers are displeased with the law.

And that alone will cause me to.....

LOL


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"However when those polls are backed up my millions of people contacting their “representatives”"

Still waiting for you to back up that claim with evidence. And as you used to say....."be specific". You can get out of doing it by saying that you just made up, as I knew you did all along.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"Oops almost forgot your sophomoric sign-off “LOL”"

I noticed that in your long comment citing poll after poll after poll (even though this country is not governed by questionable polls or any polls for that matter) you got through it all and did not address the fact that in the Quinnipiac poll only 4% of those polled thought the gun issue was important.

Guess it just went against everything you leftists hold dear.

Oh, a new story, just for you and the rest of the leftists here who hate the 2nd Amendment and think that no one ever needs a AR15.

"Iraq war vet uses AR-15 to stop gas station robbery"

link: http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/iraq-war-vet-uses-ar-15-to-stop-gas-station-robbery/

Yeah, yeah, AN, the story is indeed at "guns save lives", but you will notice there is a link that will take you to the local news website that first ran the story. So there will be no need for you to get your leftist panties in a bunch and complain about the source.

It appears that an AR15 IS good for self defense, despite what gun grabbers think and say.

And of course, AN........

LOL


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

@No, We Really Do Do the Same as The Middle East

Yes, and let's not also forget about the Weather Underground, the Black Panther Party, Revolutionary Youth Movement, Students for a Democratic Society........ These would all be extreme far-left, liberal, socialist groups that have committed acts of violence as well for their political ideals. Let's not cherry pick so-called conservative acts of violence if you want to start this conversation. Left-wing have committed acts of violence as well, so be honest about it.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Jon Mullinix

I support the second amendment and believe that people have the right of self defense. to own a gun, I also don't object to background checks.Convicted criminals should not have guns. mentally ill people should not be able to buy them.The problem is who will judge the reasons to stop the purchase of the guns? The reasons can become confusing and so many different laws that it may not work at all.

Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: The Root

@Anson

I have a 20 year old can of RAID that still kills bugs dead. I'm pretty sure Sarin and VX do not "go bad" with Age. If they did, we would not need a multi billion dollar facility in the Utah desert to destroy our stockpile of chemical weapons....We could just "wait for them to go bad"


The disillusionment from you is getting to staggering levels. Again, Ranger Medics do not dose people with Atropine for the fun of it, Iraq had WMD and Syria now has most of them. These are facts. Not your made up liberal fantasy world.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

NONW

“But since you want to nitpick about the wording of the Constitution then I ask you this, Where, exactly, does it say in the Constitution that women have the right to an abortion? Be specific this time. Thank you.”

Actually I have not been nitpicking – I have simply asked that you provide where in the Constitution the exact wording you keep posting appears. And so far you have been unable to do so. How can that possibly be considered as “nitpicking?”

Now to answer your question as succinctly as possible. The 1973 Roe Vs Wade (and the companion Roe Vs Dalton case) decision by the Supreme Court used the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, under the due process clause, to extend the right to privacy of an individual to make the personal decision – without federal government interference – to terminate a pregnancy.

The Supreme Court later affirmed the right of a woman to have an abortion until viability – which has been defined as “…usually about seven months (28 weeks)…”.

Any more questions? Oh and BTW – Don’t like abortion, don’t have one. In all other cases mind your own business. And also, since you seem to be vehemently anti-choice, would you answer the following question – What punishment would you mandate for a woman who has an abortion? Please be specific in your choice of punishment. Thank you.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

@AN

And all you have been doing is ignoring the reasoning the founding fathers used when they included the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. Take for instance the FACT that a majority of the States would not ratify the Constitution until the Bill of Rights was included with it because they feared that the Constitution gave too much power to the federal government and did not do enough to protect the rights of the people from tyrants, such as the King of England. Ergo, the Bill of Rights was put in the Constitution to protect the people from the acts of tyrants, be they foreign or domestic tyrants.

But since you want to nitpick about the wording of the Constitution then I ask you this, Where, exactly, does it say in the Constitution that women have the right to an abortion? Be specific this time. Thank you.


Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: No, We Really Do Do the Same as The Middle East

Unfortunately Americans do use violence to argue a political position - remember the abortion killings, the bombings of the lesbian nightclub, and Oklahoma.

Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

NONW

‘“The Constitution guarantees me my Natural Right of self-defense, from individuals who would do me harm and tyrants who would also do me harm, through guaranteeing my right to keep and bear arms for that self-defense.’”

I will ask again – as I did previously - that you point out where in the Constitution any such wording appears? All you have done is repeat some nonsense with no basis in fact.

“But and Obamist such as yourself is fine with having a tyrant in charge, aren't you?”

I’m sorry but Obama is not a tyrant and I would seek that you prove he is. Be specific this time. Thank you

“So now you want to back pedal and say that those 53 barrels of WMD were of ‘Depleted Material’? Really? You get caught with your hand in the jar spreading your own disinformation and that's the best you can do? No where in your previous post did it say it was ‘Depleted Material’, ...”

Yes, you are correct, the ISG report did not say “depleted material,” however what it did say was, “all of which have been part of pre-1991 Gulf war stocks based on physical condition and residual components," which is indicative (by the use of the word residual) that the material was no longer active or dangerous.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

re: Polls

I notice you did not address the fact that only 4% of people think gun laws are a serious enough issue to be concerned about.

Mention all the polls you like, AN. It does not change the fact that as much as you leftists wish it were otherwise, we do not govern by polls in this country.

And the KDM commenting clown famous for using things like "Willard the money hider" and "the criminal" is going to lecture someone about being sophmoric? All I can say is......

LOL


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: No One No Where

@AN

And once again you gloss over the fact that ours is a government "Of the People, for the People and by the People". As such the People are the individuals and the individuals ARE the State. Also, what I said was "The Constitution guarantees me my Natural Right of self-defense, from individuals who would do me harm and tyrants who would also do me harm, through guaranteeing my right to keep and bear arms for that self-defense." Do you know what a Natural Right is? That Natural Right of self-defense includes not only someone trying to harm me or my family but from tyrants who would try to command me. But and Obamist such as yourself is fine with having a tyrant in charge, aren't you? So long as it advances your world view.

So now you want to back pedal and say that those 53 barrels of WMD were of "Depleted Material"? Really? You get caught with your hand in the jar spreading your own disinformation and that's the best you can do? No where in your previous post did it say it was "Depleted Material", ...



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