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4/23/2013 6:00:00 AM
Letter: Harassed by the police

I am a vet of the U.S. Navy. I'm sending out this letter to all the vets in the Kingman area. We took an oath to defend this country and its people against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Please allow me to share a disturbing story with you.

My son, a 30-year-old white male, was walking to work on a Saturday night in Kingman. He was in his work uniform and apron, doing nothing but walking to work to support his family the best he can. He was stopped and harassed by Kingman police for suspicious activity. Really? Walking to work?

Is this what we fought for? As I sat here writing this letter, I started to cry!

What did I fight for? And where are we going? God help us!

Paul Bissonette Jr.

Maverick's Neighborhood Watch Coordinator

Golden Valley


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Reader Comments

Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

Wow, multiple comments from you........But still no links to the comments you claim gun owners have used. Why is that AN? Why pass on a chance to discredit me? Unless it's because your claims were nothing more than AN BS.

LOL


Posted: Tuesday, May 7, 2013
Article comment by: Roy Leggett

In January.1974. I, plus 5 other special deputies appointed by the governor and 6 state troopers swarmed the Green County jail, in Paragould Arkansas. We arrested the sheriff and 5 deputies for running a prostitution and drug ring out of the jail.YES, there are bad cops, but the majority are good, honest family men and women, If I am walking , or riding a bike at 4:00A.M. in a high crime area, I would not complain if stopped by the police. That is part of their job when it comes to PREVENTING crime.Would you suggest that the police sit at the station all night long, and do nothing unless they are called? Do you understand what crime prevention means? As far as the uniform, how did the police know if maybe your son stole it? They do not have a crystal ball they look into that gives them all this information. I think the police here do a great job, and if they stop me, the so be it. In fact, in the last 12 years I have been stopped by the police at least 6 times, and was told , by the police, "Thank you sir and have a good evening." The next time you need the police, call the garbage dept, or street dept if you do not trust the police....

Posted: Monday, May 6, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Frankie

“I knew you could be counted on for more of your usual AN BS when called out to back up what you said.”

See what I mean by how you ALWAYS manage to make yourself look foolish? Thanks for the … well, usual nonsense.


Posted: Sunday, May 5, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

Cute line. So you are refusing to produce any links/evidence that anyone commenting here on the KDM website stated that they need "tons of ammo"? Are you denying you ever made that claim?

I knew you could be counted on for more of your usual AN BS when called out to back up what you said.

Keep on making me.....

LOL


Posted: Saturday, May 4, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Frankie

“Please, please, make me look foolish.”

I have done so numerous times, well actually you have made yourself look foolish, I simply pointed it out.


Posted: Thursday, May 2, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"You know, every single time you have made the “Didn’t think so,” comment you have had your butt handed to you. Why do you insist upon making yourself look foolish?"

Please, please, make me look foolish. I am begging you to produce a comment by anyone here who actually said they need "tons of ammo".

And while I wait I will just....

LOL




Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

I already sent in one response to FLS without any expectation that it could be printed, so here's one which can - every person here has life experiences which they cannot prove. I am not very concerned about some Government hit list with my name on it. I am more concerned when a cop can approach me based upon a blatant lie ("we got a report that....") which the courts can be expected to support. And speaking of courts, perhaps my greatest concern about that impact point between Government is the setting which we are expected to honor - the court, where we do not have the right to expect truth to be given its proper place. I have definitely written truthful accounts here at the Daily Miner web forum, and I have encountered liars in Mohave County to the conclusion that nobody here does what they say they will do, and it goes downhill from there.

Posted: Tuesday, April 30, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

FLS

“You will of course be able to provide a link to at least one comment here in the past stating that, right. Didn't think so.”

You know, every single time you have made the “Didn’t think so,” comment you have had your butt handed to you. Why do you insist upon making yourself look foolish?


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Victor

“So you make fun of those who seem to feel the same as you when it comes to firearms and why they have them?”

Actually, no I don’t. You see my paranoia (as I have stated here before) is due to my combat experience and I have attempted to not be so paranoid but I guess it is some form of PTSD that compels me to feel the need to be armed and licensed to carry. So in my own warped, by being shot at, mind I feel being armed is a necessity – even though rationally I know I have nothing to fear.

“And you don't even live in Kingman, correct?”

That is correct and from the never ending reports here of roving hoards of home invaders, carjackers and other miscreants in Kingman I am glad that I don’t.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"(according to the local righties) filled with roving hoards of home invaders and carjackers."

Are these the same "righties" you claim have commented here about needing "tons of ammo"?

You will of course be able to provide a link to at least one comment here in the past stating that, right. Didn't think so.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

Oh looks like AN has done a search on me...just as I have done on some others who use part or all of their real names.
No juvenile nickname...bravo. I'd prefer my handle/screen name just for ease of recognition...but not a big deal.

So you make fun of those who seem to feel the same as you when it comes to firearms and why they have them? And you don't even live in Kingman, correct?
Odd....


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

TEEJE

“So, again, you are not only wrong, but you are making up your own facts.”

Look, kid, I obtain my “facts” from right here in the pages of the KDM where you and others have talked about how you must be armed to the teeth in order to protect your families from home invaders and roving hoards of miscreants out to hurt you. Oh wait – you mean that isn’t the truth? That you were just making stuff up? Darn, I should have known that! Silly me.

“And just because you think being polite works better doesnt mean everyone does, sooo, your opinion, not a legal fact.”

So you are now claiming that being polite when dealing with an officer of the law is not a good thing? No wonder you have so many problems. And I will grant you that although politeness is not a “legal fact,” being an … you know, with an officer can lead to arrest and will not be looked upon with favor by the court.

“Thank for playing.”

Sorry, kid, but interaction with the police is NEVER playing, as you will learn when you – hopefully – grow up.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

Victor

“This coming from a a person who has stated many times that he is almost always armed and can legally carry concealed in at least 3 states. Who's paranoid now?”

Have I ever stated that I am not paranoid? My God I live in one of the most ignorant counties in the nation filled with liberal haters and (according to the local righties) filled with roving hoards of home invaders and carjackers.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

" So, no, kid, I did not make that up – I garnered that knowledge right here in the Opinions section of the KDM."

Oh good, so we are going to see links to all those comments you claim you found here by locals saying they need "tons of ammo". As you used to say before you became the resident BS artist......."be specific". So name the commentor(s) who said it, or just admit it was the usual AN BS.
As always.......

LOL


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@pl.......

"but I don't think that is at all the same as calling someone a liar - which you do."

So what would you call someone who for years makes claims about police breaking into their home, but never provides any proof of it ever having happened?

"making it very clear that people are all talk and no action...."

You have been living proof of that here for years.


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@pl.....

"We had a very brief conversation, and I went my way."

I'm betting most conversations you have are very brief, and that anyone involved wants to get away as soon as they can.

" I'm curious what one of these old Diggers would say about being queried by police while out for a stroll some evening."

If they're Aussie, who cares what they think? But congrats on making it all about YOU, as usual.

LOL


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@pl.....

"but I don't think that is at all the same as calling someone a liar - which you do."

When you have no evidence at all other than your weird claims, mixed in with even weirder claims that movies are made about you, what do you expect?

"There are other things I'd rather do than writing, in the form of direct action."

I'll bet. And I am sure you just made someones "people to watch list" just for that line alone.

"But at this point in my life with pressing medical concerns,......"

Since you would not be the one issuing "indictments" or making the "arrests", what does your health have to do with anything?

"and experience in such situations making it very clear that people are all talk and no action....."

That pretty much describes exactly what you have been doing here for years.

"I just write these things for the historical record."

Odds are no one will ever read them in the future, but if anyone does they will find it nothing more than really bizzare entertainment.

LOL


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Anson...

“The police do not have the right to just stop random people without cause.”

To which you replied...

"Yes, they do when dealing with a crime ridden"

So, again, you are not only wrong, but you are making up your own facts. And just because you think being polite works better doesnt mean everyone does, sooo, your opinion, not a legal fact. Thanks for playing


Posted: Monday, April 29, 2013
Article comment by: V Stokes

"paranoid populace of Kingman who say they must have weapons, may weapons, lots of weapons and tons of ammo to protect them from the hoards of home invaders and roving miscreants is what led me to that conclusion."

This coming from a a person who has stated many times that he is almost always armed and can legally carry concealed in at least 3 states. Who's paranoid now?


Posted: Saturday, April 27, 2013
Article comment by: pl .....

@Frank Lee Speaking.....I can understand skepticism up to a point. I finally embraced it towards large swaths of religion when it became obvious that nobody well-versed in Government abuse could continually sit under some of what they teach (avoidance of Government-related issues - surprise surprise, as they're enjoying tax-exempt status for this practise). So I'll acknowledge the role of skepticism, but I don't think that is at all the same as calling someone a liar - which you do. There are other things I'd rather do than writing, in the form of direct action. But at this point in my life with pressing medical concerns, and experience in such situations making it very clear that people are all talk and no action.....I just write these things for the historical record.

Posted: Saturday, April 27, 2013
Article comment by: Just A. Citizen

I read your letter the day it came out. I didn't know quite what to say then, but I knew I was on your side.
I would SO like to blame this kind of thing on Obama and his band of merry liberals, in all fairness I can't, or should I say, we can't. Our National leaders have been chinking away at our basic rights against this kind of thing for years. And years. While Obama has furthered this erosion in many ways, I think Bush Jr. took the biggest whack out of our personal freedoms faster than any since Franklin Roosevelt did in the name of winning the Second World War.
Bush slipped so much by us in the name of the fight to keep us safe from terrorism its pathetic.
Them cops were given the tools they're using by us. Well, not exactly given, but more accurately, allowed to use. Most people let the Government scare them into going with the flow. After all,
"If you're not with us, you're against us". Remember that?
I joined the US Army in January of 1973. I was thirsting to go fight the red horde in SE Asia but served my time in Europe. Although I didn't fight, I sure the heck don't approve of the Gestapo tactics being used by local Police today. All in the name of 'Protecting us'


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Anson's Nephew

TEEJE

“Actually anny you are wrong again.”

Nope, I am not, kid.

“A cop can not stop someone who is breaking no laws whatsoever. The officer has to have some reasonable and reliable suspision,…”

An individual walking in a high crime area like Kingman alone, after dark should always be stopped.

“… not only that, if you havent broke any laws at all and a cop tries to detain you, you dont have to speak to them or identify yourself.”

Yes, that is correct. However I have found that just being polite and answering the officers questions works much better than being an … well, you know.

“Oh and where did you come up with this ‘when dealing in a crime ridden area’? You just make that up yourself?”

The number of posts from the paranoid populace of Kingman who say they must have weapons, may weapons, lots of weapons and tons of ammo to protect them from the hoards of home invaders and roving miscreants is what led me to that conclusion. So, no, kid, I did not make that up – I garnered that knowledge right here in the Opinions section of the KDM.


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@ansons nephew

"Nope, the Constitution does not present any “right” to walk the streets."

Glad to know you support NYC's "stop and frisk" program. I know I do, eben if it is profiling. You just lost some cred with your local leftist comrades, AN

LOL


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Frank Lee Speaking

@pl......

"I could certainly understand if the Miner doesn't print this apparently-unrelated story,"

Well, looks like they printed it after all. Let's face it, most of your "unrelated to anything in the real world" fairy tales are really, really funny.

LOL


Posted: Friday, April 26, 2013
Article comment by: Tj Denton

Actually anny you are wrong again.

A cop can not stop someone who is breaking no laws whatsoever. The officer has to have some reasonable and reliable suspision, or be in active pursuit of individuals involved in an immediate crime. Now, can the cop just make something up to stop someone? Yes, but its not right to do so. not only that, if you havent broke any laws at all and a cop tries to detain you, you dont have to speak to them or identify yourself. Sooooo, wrong again. Oh and where did you come up with this "when dealing in a crime ridden area"? You just make that up yourself?



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